I want to buy the wife a .243 for deer hunting, what to get?

JeeperJeeper Senior MemberPosts: 2,952 Senior Member
Currently leaning towards either a Tikka T3 Lite or a Weatherby Vanguard GH2.

Thoughts? Anything else in this price range (~$600ish) I should be considering?

After reading reviews, it sounds like the Tikka might be more likely to be the more accurate of the two...?

Luis
Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    Jeeper wrote: »
    Currently leaning towards either a Tikka T3 Lite.............

    This thread ended right there. Carry on.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    In reality, is she use to shooting? Only reason I say this is that the Tikka will have a slight increase in recoil over the Vanguard due to the lighter weight.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,450 Senior Member
    If you plan to hunt in a blind or stand, I wouldn't bother with a light weight rifle.

    Ohio isn't a rifle hunting state, so there isn't a big selection of rifles in the shops. I've never even seen a Tikka
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,656 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    This thread ended right there. Carry on.
    Gotta go with Zedrick on this one
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  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 970 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    Gotta go with Zedrick on this one

    I'm with both of you. Tikka all the way.
    You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts:guns:
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,717 Senior Member
    I am not going to talk you out of a Tikka, but, I got son#2 a Mossberg ATR youth via a banquet and shot my best group ever with some 95gr. Federal Fusions, put a Burris E1 3X9X40 on it.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    Spend an extra 200$ and get a Savage Lady Hunter. Or wait on the new Vanguard GH2 (girls hunt too). Both have stocks that are designed for females , as women rend to have longer necks and their shoudlering positions can be different. Not sure what the gh2 will retail. I figure if rifle makers are going to finally start making stocks just for females, and your wimmins are serious hunters, get em something that fits them. The more they enjoy shooting and hunting, the better off we all are in the long run
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,253 Senior Member
    I just bought a NIB Marlin XS-7 in .243 with a no-name scope on it for $375.00 out the door, background check and all. With a midrange handload it shoots sub-MOA groups and is accurate out to 350 yards- - - -as far as my range will let me shoot. It's got a Savage-type barrel nut and Marlin's version of the accutrigger, and the receiver is almost a clone of the Remington 700- - - -the same scope mounts even fit it. You can spend more money for the brag factor, but I'll bet the deer won't get any deader any quicker with a gun that costs three times as much.
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,660 Senior Member
    I'd go Savage.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,525 Senior Member
    To me the easy answer is: take her to a few shops, show her what is available and let her shoulder the different makes and models and along with your suggestions on what and why she can make an informed decision on the rifle she will shoot.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,549 Senior Member
    Marlin bolt action is a shooter, for half that money.
  • 41magnut41magnut Senior Member Posts: 1,158 Senior Member
    Jeeper wrote: »
    Currently leaning towards either a Tikka T3 Lite or a Weatherby Vanguard GH2.

    Thoughts? Anything else in this price range (~$600ish) I should be considering?

    After reading reviews, it sounds like the Tikka might be more likely to be the more accurate of the two...?

    Luis

    No flies on either of these. In the .243W there are enough choices to make for more confusion than necessary.
    "The .30-06 is never a mistake." Townsend Whelen :iwo:
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,037 Senior Member
    I'd advise taking her along to see what fits her. Depending on how much she is dedicated to hunting, I would start off on the short end, price wise. You can get excellent, Minute of Deer rifles at around $400.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    I just bought a NIB Marlin XS-7 in .243 with a no-name scope on it for $375.00 out the door..................You can spend more money for the brag factor, but I'll bet the deer won't get any deader any quicker with a gun that costs three times as much.
    Jerry

    If that is your logic, then your ego caused you to waste $100.00 on something that kills no deader than this little gem.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1098/products_id/80939/H%26R+72635+Handi+Rifle+Break+Open+243+Winchester+22%22+Syntheti

    Maybe you can ask for your money back on that ego inflating rifle you bought, Teach.

    I'm here to help.

    :wink:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,660 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    If that is your logic, then your ego caused you to waste $100.00 on something that kills no deader than this little gem.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1098/products_id/80939/H%26R+72635+Handi+Rifle+Break+Open+243+Winchester+22%22+Syntheti

    :

    Hey, I have killed a whole pile of deer with a single shot NEF in .308. From 30 yards out to 230.

    They work.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Hey, I have killed a whole pile of deer with a single shot NEF in .308. From 30 yards out to 230.

    They work.


    I didn't say they didn't work at all. In fact, your experience lends credence to the fact that Teach was simply boosting his ego when he spent $100 more than was necessary to actually kill a deer.

    Thanks!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    She is currently using one of my two .44 carbines (Marlin 1894P, or Ruger Deerslayer circa '82). She is easily a 2 moa shot with the 1894p, but I can see that it's awkward for her since the LOP is too long, and although she likes the pistol grip on the Deerslayer, it doesn't fit her any better, and is even less accurate.

    My thinking is that a .243 would easily extend her range from the 125 yds or so that the .44's limit her to, to an easy 200 yds or so (she's a good enough shot to pull off anything up to at least that range with the right caliber). Going to a better stock (for her) would make it much easier for her. She likes light weight rifles (ie, she won't drag around anything much heavier than the two she's been using so far), and I don't want anything that is going to recoil much worse than the .44's she's been using so far. She has shot my .308, but doesn't care for the recoil.... mostly because the stock doesn't fit her right, and she cannot shoulder it properly.

    The Tikka T3 lite comes in a youth model that I suspect would fit her like a glove, but the barrel is kinda short (not more than 20" if I recall correctly) for a .243 IMO. She has shouldered the Tikka T3 lite full size and liked the weight and pistol grip, but the stock was still too long. That was my main reason for considering theWeatherby Vanguard GH2... it would have a better stock for her without sacrificing another 2-4" of barrel.

    Maybe I should buy the Tikka T3 Lite and get the stock cut to fit her.

    Then again, if I'm going to have to get the stock cut to fit, the Marlin is a fine shooter, at half the cost..... hmmm.... decisions, decisions.....

    Luis
    Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    I have a .243 Winchester with an 18" barrel that has killed deer sized game and hogs out to 300 yards. No issues with the shorter barrel.

    You are on the right track though, searching for a rifle that fits her properly.

    Just don't be concerned with the barrel on that .243 if that is the rifle she likes. A 20" barrel is plenty for what it sounds like you are needing it to do.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    If you handload, reduced loads for the .243 Winchester are very effective in killing and recoil less too.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    In that case, I think you have sold me on the Tikka T3 Lite in the youth model. That should fit her like a glove. I was just concerned about the short barrel.

    Trust me.... recoil is not going to be a factor for anything in .243 for her. She's 5'6", 150 lbs, and NOT afraid of recoil. :-)

    Luis
    Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,253 Senior Member
    My Marlin has a 22" barrel and a 12 1/2" LOP. I believe it's a "youth" model.

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    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,441 Senior Member
    I'm with Teach...drop a $100 or so less and get the XS7 Mine is topped with a Weaver 4X and shoots like a dream!

    JMHO
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • HondoHondo Member Posts: 320 Member
    Find a used Ruger M77 MkII Stainless with synthetic stock. I know you have a friend that will work that trigger over for you. Just sayin' ;-)
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,939 Senior Member
    700 SPS stainless.

    But let her shoot some bigger stuff with decent stocks. The .260, 7-08, and .308 - non of 'em bad with the right furniture.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    Spend an extra 200$ and get a Savage Lady Hunter. Or wait on the new Vanguard GH2 (girls hunt too). Both have stocks that are designed for females , as women rend to have longer necks and their shoudlering positions can be different. Not sure what the gh2 will retail. I figure if rifle makers are going to finally start making stocks just for females, and your wimmins are serious hunters, get em something that fits them. The more they enjoy shooting and hunting, the better off we all are in the long run

    :agree: You guys don't read your NRA publications anymore, do ya. I read about this in American Rifleman and it makes sense.
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • road_warri0rroad_warri0r New Member Posts: 11 New Member
    Hondo wrote: »
    Find a used Ruger M77 MkII Stainless with synthetic stock. I know you have a friend that will work that trigger over for you. Just sayin' ;-)

    I just traded for a Ruger 77 243 stainless with brown laminate stock, it is a thing of beauty, any woman would appreciate it.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,788 Senior Member
    I just traded for a Ruger 77 243 stainless with brown laminate stock, it is a thing of beauty, any woman would appreciate it.

    Enjoy shooting it!

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,487 Senior Member
    +1 with 5280. These rifles are designed for a female shooter. The LOP is shorter, the distance from pistol grip to trigger is shorter and there are some other design features that help women. I've been an advocate of this idea for years. The concept is simple. Women are anatomically different. Besides the obvious differences (Viva the deference), their center of gravity is also different. When men and children run, we run chest down and forward. That's because our center of gravity is in our chest. As a female matures their hips roll forward to aid carrying a child. This shifts their center of gravity to their hips and causes them to run more upright. Women tend to be more comfortable shooting from a more erect position (British style) and will rock more from recoil. It only make sense that a rifle designed for a women will fit better and be more comfortable to shoot. We should also be considerate of how they will shoot it. An erect shooter will have the scope set ferther back on the receiver than a forward leaning shooter.
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  • wildgenewildgene Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    ...if you really love her, you'ld get her one of these...:wink::tooth::troll::jester::devil:

    http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/itemdetails.asp?item=035248211&cid=035&tid=248
  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 970 Senior Member
    Get the Tikka. It'll shoot so good you'll have to have one too.
    You have the right to your own opinion, but you don't have the right to your own facts:guns:
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