.338cal A-Max Bullets!!!!!!

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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    Think about this... Any standard "long" belted magnum action can be used (7mm mag, 300 mag, .338 mag, etc.). All it would take to convert a .338 Win mag is to ream it out some more. Before this revelation, you had to find a magnum (.375 H&H) length action to get a fast .338. So yea, I am kind of excited! A whole new world of possibilities opened up. Who wants to chip in on a reamer? Manson Reamers is about 15 minutes away from me. Do we want an improved shoulder?
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    All it would take to convert a .338 Win mag is to ream it out some more.
    In other words.... any bubba with a lathe in his garage could make one. :cough:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Think about this... Any standard "long" belted magnum action can be used (7mm mag, 300 mag, .338 mag, etc.). All it would take to convert a .338 Win mag is to ream it out some more. Before this revelation, you had to find a magnum (.375 H&H) length action to get a fast .338. So yea, I am kind of excited! A whole new world of possibilities opened up. Who wants to chip in on a reamer? Manson Reamers is about 15 minutes away from me. Do we want an improved shoulder?

    I've already spoken to PTG in regards to making a reamer. They already have the speck on file as they've made them before. Also spoken to Hornady about making dies. As much as I dislike Hornady dies, they've worked with PTG on their specs and have made the dies before. So, there are two companies that have worked in conjunction to make dies and reamers for this cartridge. Resulting in identical specs. That........is a good thing.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    Sounds good. I also heard that if you take a die blank, use the reamer on it and have it hard chromed .002" you got dies to work with whatever reamer is available. But having everything already spec'd sounds even better.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Who wants to chip in on a reamer? Manson Reamers is about 15 minutes away from me. Do we want an improved shoulder?

    Me.
    Yes.
    Bubba can test it on my 338.
    I'll chip in on a die, too. Or have them make 2. Hornady seaters are cartridge generic, caliber specific, so my 338 seater will work.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I see what you did there

    Who? Me? No!

    (it's working, though)
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Like taking candy from a baby.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    The desire has been there for quite some time. Zee just lowered the bar to the point where I can look over the top some. Not that I tracked down an old Ruger 77 (tang safety) in 7mm mag for a donor action for cheap. Too bad I just paid out a ton of cash in bills yesterday and will have to wait a bit.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    I got a .338 win mag. But there is no way I would ever use that .338 win mag. If I do it, I will just build a target style rifle.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I got a .338 win mag. But there is no way I would ever use that .338 win mag. If I do it, I will just build a target style rifle.

    I know.
    But, for me, if we own a reamer, I'm not gonna have two different 338's.
    One for hunting', one for target. Heck, maybe a SP.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,045 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    I know.
    But, for me, if we own a reamer, I'm not gonna have two different 338's.
    One for hunting', one for target. Heck, maybe a SP.

    That would be cool
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    I'd pitch in for a community reamer.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    I know.
    But, for me, if we own a reamer, I'm not gonna have two different 338's.
    One for hunting', one for target. Heck, maybe a SP.

    My MOA might need a new barrel. Heck, I was considering a .375 Ruger for that gun anyway.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    Quickload gurus.... The case has between a 97 and 99 grain water capacity. What is going to work well with a 285gr .338 Amax? The working pressure of a .375 Ruger is 62,000 psi.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I'd pitch in for a community reamer.

    Must resist. Must resist.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    That is called Obamacare.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,045 Senior Member
    G&A 338? (-;
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,272 Senior Member
    Ran across this and thought you guys contemplating the 338-375 ruger might be interested.
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/363624/hornady-reloading-brass-375-ruger-basic-box-of-50

    Sako
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    In doing some research, and it looks like guys are seating 250's at ~3.600" COAL.
    That length gets 250's above 3k fps.
    I mention this because, a feller needs a RUM length action and mag to feed those monsters.
    I'm not sure about a Ruger, but that's just a simple mag box and follower switch in a Savage or Remington long action.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,927 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    In doing some research, and it looks like guys are seating 250's at ~3.600" COAL.
    That length gets 250's above 3k fps.
    I mention this because, a feller needs a RUM length action and mag to feed those monsters.
    I'm not sure about a Ruger, but that's just a simple mag box and follower switch in a Savage or Remington long action.

    Huh, I did not know you could do that, without switching barrels or chamberings, have you fiddled with putting a longer than spec COAL in any of your rifles? IE, can I fiddle with some longer loads in my Savage 300 win mag?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    Mag length doesn't worry me for this particular cartridge. Just because of its purpose for me. I'd seat the 285gr A-Max long, lower pressures, and fit more powder. Not worrying about fitting the mag.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,616 Senior Member
    We need to stop all this talk. I'm going to end up having to build one and I already convinced myself last year I didn't need one!!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    We need to stop all this talk. I'm going to end up having to build one and I already convinced myself last year I didn't need one!!!!
    Yeah, but, that was last year! Before those sexy 285 A max came out.
    You know I'll send you a box, right? You'll have no choice, then.:tooth:
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,220 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    I'm not sure about a Ruger.
    The tang safety 77's are push round. No biggie. The 77 mkII's are CRF, but all you have to do is load them singly and just click the case head in the magazine and it will feed. No biggie. I hardly use my magazine on bolt rifles anyway.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    The tang safety 77's are push round. No biggie. The 77 mkII's are CRF, but all you have to do is load them singly and just click the case head in the magazine and it will feed. No biggie. I hardly use my magazine on bolt rifles anyway.
    Cool. Mine's a tang safety.
    It's probably gonna have a date with the reamer. If I ever decide it shoots well enough.
    Otherwise, a good, 26" stainless tube is in it's future.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Huh, I did not know you could do that, without switching barrels or chamberings, have you fiddled with putting a longer than spec COAL in any of your rifles? IE, can I fiddle with some longer loads in my Savage 300 win mag?
    Sure. Almost all of my target loads are. Get a OAL gauge, check your rifle, and seat those puppies long.
    You may be able to modify the mag box you have to fit a bit longer rounds.
    The action is plenty long.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,927 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Sure. Almost all of my target loads are. Get a OAL gauge, check your rifle, and seat those puppies long.
    You may be able to modify the mag box you have to fit a bit longer rounds.
    The action is plenty long.

    Something to think about, thanks.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
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