Stereo equipment questions.

CHIRO1989

Not even sure if "stereo equipment" is correct any more. Anyway, my audio systems have been crapping out. My Nissan Murano lost both the front and rear right speakers and my 10 y/o Yamaha home receiver is also not putting anything out to the right front and rear speakers, time for new components or can this stuff be repaired for a reasonable price?

agewon

Unless you're a serious audiophile, the big box stores have reasonable A/V tuners with some neat bells and whistles for a decent price. I haven't looked in a while but remember seeing a Pioneer with good power and Bluetooth for under 450$.

jbohio

This may be a dumb question, but, you checked to make sure that someone didn't mess with the balance on the car stereo, right?

CHIRO1989

jbohio wrote: »

This may be a dumb question, but, you checked to make sure that someone didn't mess with the balance on the car stereo, right?

Yep, nothing, not even a hiss.

CHIRO1989

agewon wrote: »

Unless you're a serious audiophile, the big box stores have reasonable A/V tuners with some neat bells and whistles for a decent price. I haven't looked in a while but remember seeing a Pioneer with good power and Bluetooth for under 450$.

I am thinking this is going to be the plan, but I wanted to be sure I was not tossing some decent components in their day in the trash if they can be fixed.

CHIRO1989

Wambli Ska wrote: »

Unless it's really high end stuff there is no sense repairing it. You can get a new car stereo for $200 that will put your factory stuff to shame. Best buy always has speakers etc on sale or clearance and if you don't know how to do it yourself (EASY) they will install.

It came with a Bose system from the factory, again, just checking to be sure it can't be fixed. Any suggestion or recommendations based on your experiences?

jbohio

Check the black Friday deals for the home stuff. Our theater system was basically free with a tv purchase.

CHIRO1989

jbohio wrote: »

Check the black Friday deals for the home stuff. Our theater system was basically free with a tv purchase.

I am thinking the car is more than just speakers, looks like the gun fund is going to take a hit.

minnesotashooter

CHIRO1989 wrote: »

Not even sure if "stereo equipment" is correct any more. Anyway, my audio systems have been crapping out. My Nissan Murano lost both the front and rear right speakers and my 10 y/o Yamaha home receiver is also not putting anything out to the right front and rear speakers, time for new components or can this stuff be repaired for a reasonable price?

Any chance of operator error??

What about some Boy Scouts working on a badge maybe??

Teach

Most of the factory audio systems have a sweetheart deal with a few contract repair shops. Around Tennessee it's a place called "Rickwood Radio", I believe. Other repair facilities can't even get schematics to do diagnosis, and Rickwood is outrageously expensive- - -like a $100.00 fee just to troubleshoot a unit. An aftermatket system is the best way to go, but anywhere BUT "WORST BUY!"
Jerry

CHIRO1989

minnesotashooter wrote: »

Any chance of operator error??

What about some Boy Scouts working on a badge maybe??

Always assume option #1 and then option #2, ruled that out though:jester:.

CHIRO1989

Teach wrote: »

Most of the factory audio systems have a sweetheart deal with a few contract repair shops. Around Tennessee it's a place called "Rickwood Radio", I believe. Other repair facilities can't even get schematics to do diagnosis, and Rickwood is outrageously expensive- - -like a $100.00 fee just to troubleshoot a unit. An aftermatket system is the best way to go, but anywhere BUT "WORST BUY!"
Jerry

Thanks Teach, pretty much what my local shop guys said, easier to replace than fix. I don't shop at Best Buy any more, had a printer issue they were buttheads about, walked out leaving a essentally new printer with the manager yelling "sir, sir, you can't leave this here!"

Teach

The repair facility at one of their stores in Huntsville AL wiped the hard drive on a computer in the process of installing a new power supply, erasing hundreds of pictures Mary took on her one and only trip to Europe, and a store manager in Nashville had my brother and my 80-something year old father ARRESTED after Dad made a fuss about a warranty replacement on the battery in a cell phone he bought there. "Best" doesn't even come close to describing their business practices!

Jerry

jbp-ohio

Just go to Crutchfield.com ..... They will tell you what will fit, give you the stereo adapter and even adapters for the speakers so you don't have to cut any wires in the car. They will also give you printed instructions specific for your vehicle. It will show every screw you have to remove, every push pin you need to pull out of a door panel. You can do it yourself easily....

CHIRO1989

jbp-ohio wrote: »

Just go to Crutchfield.com ..... They will tell you what will fit, give you the stereo adapter and even adapters for the speakers so you don't have to cut any wires in the car. They will also give you printed instructions specific for your vehicle. It will show every screw you have to remove, every push pin you need to pull out of a door panel. You can do it yourself easily....

I forgot about them, I have not seen a catalog in a LONG time, thanks.

TSchub

jbp-ohio wrote: »

Just go to Crutchfield.com ..... They will tell you what will fit, give you the stereo adapter and even adapters for the speakers so you don't have to cut any wires in the car. They will also give you printed instructions specific for your vehicle. It will show every screw you have to remove, every push pin you need to pull out of a door panel. You can do it yourself easily....

^^^:cool2:

tennmike

I'd guess it's one of two problems. Either the amp controlling the right front and rear speakers is fried, or you have a wiring problem with the Murano. If the wiring harness goes through the door with all the other wiring it could have been pinched in two, or just broken from flexing.

Same deal with the home system; amp for those speakers is blown. Due to its age, I'd just upgrade. If the amp is blown, finding a OEM or aftermarket replacement will be an expensive proposition. Electronics parts like that change faster than a teenage girl's mind.

Both are easy to troubleshoot with the right tools, and expensive to have done, and repair parts may not be readily available. Replacing both is probably the best route. Sad to say, we live in a throwaway society.

terminator012

jbp-ohio wrote: »

Just go to Crutchfield.com ..... They will tell you what will fit, give you the stereo adapter and even adapters for the speakers so you don't have to cut any wires in the car. They will also give you printed instructions specific for your vehicle. It will show every screw you have to remove, every push pin you need to pull out of a door panel. You can do it yourself easily....

X3. That is where I bought all my last audio stuff.

agewon

Jerry, I'm getting the sense you don't like "big box stores". First dicks, now beat buy?
But seriously, to see if it's your head unit; grab an old speaker from the house and tap it into any of the speakers in the car. A simple parallel jumper will tell you if it's the speaker or the source. More than likely, if all the speakers don't work, it's the source. And crutchfield Is the way to go. They have great customer service, and website filters to get you to what you need for your application.
Also, look locally. There are always small audiophile shops in towns that cater to young, thumping kids. We have a dozen or so here in Middletown, just takes a little shopping to see who has a greater markup.

SirGeorgeKillian

Dicks earned their position after they pulled black rifles after the Sandy Hook shooting.

tennmike

If the Murano has a Bose system, it's worth fixing.

Troubleshooting can be easy, or extremely frustrating, on how hard it is to access the wiring to the speakers, and removing the speakers to access the connections, in the car. An analog multimeter is a must have item for this. And a roll of 18-20 ga. stranded wire.

Pull non-functioning speakers and hopefully they have quick disconnects. Disconnect one wire, and check resistance of speaker. The speaker should have ohm value stamped on it. If the speakers show good, then the fun begins. Gain access to radio wiring, and hopefully, it also has quick disconnects. Run a piece of the roll of wire from the speaker cable long enough to reach the multimeter lead. Check resistance from disconnected speaker lead from radio to speaker; it should be 0. If meter shows infinity (open) on any of the speaker wires, then the wiring is the culprit.

If wiring shows good, then the fun begins. Crank the volume down on the radio to a low setting. Set voltmeter to DC and a voltage range higher than 12V. Connect multimeter leads to the speaker leads of one speaker and turn on the radio. If the multimeter shows no voltage, the amp isn't putting out anything (I use a handheld digital oscilloscope for this part so I can 'see' the signal or lack thereof). A tip for this part is to find a talk radio program. Music is a constant signal; talk radio is a lot of on/off signal and will make an analog multimeter needle dance like a demented pole dancer.

CHIRO1989

tennmike wrote: »

If the Murano has a Bose system, it's worth fixing.

Troubleshooting can be easy, or extremely frustrating, on how hard it is to access the wiring to the speakers, and removing the speakers to access the connections, in the car. An analog multimeter is a must have item for this. And a roll of 18-20 ga. stranded wire.

Pull non-functioning speakers and hopefully they have quick disconnects. Disconnect one wire, and check resistance of speaker. The speaker should have ohm value stamped on it. If the speakers show good, then the fun begins. Gain access to radio wiring, and hopefully, it also has quick disconnects. Run a piece of the roll of wire from the speaker cable long enough to reach the multimeter lead. Check resistance from disconnected speaker lead from radio to speaker; it should be 0. If meter shows infinity (open) on any of the speaker wires, then the wiring is the culprit.

If wiring shows good, then the fun begins. Crank the volume down on the radio to a low setting. Set voltmeter to DC and a voltage range higher than 12V. Connect multimeter leads to the speaker leads of one speaker and turn on the radio. If the multimeter shows no voltage, the amp isn't putting out anything (I use a handheld digital oscilloscope for this part so I can 'see' the signal or lack thereof). A tip for this part is to find a talk radio program. Music is a constant signal; talk radio is a lot of on/off signal and will make an analog multimeter needle dance like a demented pole dancer.

My motivation is low, unheated garage in below freezing temps in a bad position, I will do my best to get on it, thanks Mike.