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Warming up a little to Rick Perry

bisleybisley Posts: 10,815 Senior Member
I've never been a fan of Rick Perry, despite voting for him for Governor each time he has run. The best thing I could ever say about him is that he didn't screw up the good Texas economy that was in place when he took over, and that despite being a 'finger wetted and in the wind' politician, I didn't find much to disagree with in his results...even if he didn't display any particular brilliance in the way he accomplished the job.

My mind was not changed in anything I saw him do, early in his campaign. He stuttered and stammered almost as much as GWB, early on, made a few mistakes in his choice of words, and in general did not inspire much confidence.

Lately though, he seems to be getting his feet on the ground, probably due to some hard work by his handlers, in an effort to get him 'up to snuff' for the national stage. I've now seen a couple of admittedly 'friendly' interviews in which he came across as competent and informed, and I am now paying more attention to him than I ever have, through all of his years as governor. I am sincerely hoping that there really is more to him than meets the eye, and that he will continue to 'flesh out' his message and sell it to the public, whether he ends up getting the nomination or not.

The most encouraging thing about him, to me, is that the liberal elite and the establishment Republicans hate his guts. The liberals, through their media domination, have occasionally had pretty good luck helping Republicans to pick the candidates they want to run against (McCain, Dole, etc.) and I don't want to see that happen this time.

I'll vote for anyone who can beat Obama, though.

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  • samzheresamzhere Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Good point, that the liberal establishment hates him. That can't be all bad.

    I've got my issues with Perry -- he's been too lax on illegal immigration, and he spends too much time on evangelical issues. I understand that he believes this and he's not faking his enthusiasm, but we don't hire governors (or presidents) for that task.

    I also think Perry's a bit too much in the back pocket of certain donors, and I realize that many politicians are the same.

    What Perry has to do is to upgrade his delivery and be more "presidential".

    I prefer Romney -- I think he's smarter and a better administrator, but I'd be fine with Perry.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Saw Perry on Hannity last night. He gave a pretty good interview, said he was for enforcing immigration laws and protecting the border. So far, he has not taken a stand on 2nd Amendment rights. I would like to know his position on that.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • NNNN Posts: 25,235 Senior Member
    Saw Perry on Hannity last night. He gave a pretty good interview, said he was for enforcing immigration laws and protecting the border. So far, he has not taken a stand on 2nd Amendment rights. I would like to know his position on that.
    Well, he did say gun control was using two hands.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Well, he did say gun control was using two hands.
    National Association for Gun Rights sent him a questionnaire, and so far he has not responded to it. Something more than a sound bite would be more convincing.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,419 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »

    I prefer Romney -- I think he's smarter and a better administrator, but I'd be fine with Perry.

    Romney has supported too many RINO things to make it in a general election. He will not get out the hardcore Republican base.... His actions (not his current stance) on socialized medicine and gun control are his silver bullets.

    However, Perry supports in state college tuition for illegal aliens.

    As I have said before- so far Perry is the smallest poo sandwich on the buffet. I'm still not happy I'm going to have to pick a poo sandwich.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,419 Senior Member
    National Association for Gun Rights sent him a questionnaire, and so far he has not responded to it. Something more than a sound bite would be more convincing.

    NAGW is a non-entity. They have no PAC, No registered lobbyist on the Hill, have been accused of spreading disinformation to get donations, and have also there have been rumors that the head is soliciting donations for his own legal defense.

    No surprise that Perry ignored them.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    NAGW is a non-entity. They have no PAC, No registered lobbyist on the Hill, have been accused of spreading disinformation to get donations, and have also there have been rumors that the head is soliciting donations for his own legal defense. No surprise that Perry ignored them.
    I didn't know that. I've been getting their email newsletter for a while and thought they were a serious pro-gun group. Thanks for the info.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    I think he's smart enough to understand that a candidate who is not 100% pro 2A isn't viable in a Republican primary these days. If stance on 2A is your only consideration you can probably vote for any of them and be ok these days. While we can never get too complacent, I feel the 2A issue is almost completely off the table at least for the next 4 years.
    Not the only issue, but important to me. I have read in a few places that Romney is a fan of gun control. If that is the case, he won't be getting my vote.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • samzheresamzhere Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Saw Perry on Hannity last night. He gave a pretty good interview, said he was for enforcing immigration laws and protecting the border. So far, he has not taken a stand on 2nd Amendment rights. I would like to know his position on that.

    Perry is very strong on 2A. He has his own CHL, carries while jogging, and shoots regularly at an Austin gun club.
  • BuffcoBuffco Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    I think he's smart enough to understand that a candidate who is not 100% pro 2A isn't viable in a Republican primary these days. If stance on 2A is your only consideration you can probably vote for any of them and be ok these days. While we can never get too complacent, I feel the 2A issue is almost completely off the table at least for the next 4 years.

    I'm gonna agree with our resident lib here. Our gun raghts have not been in danger during Obama's administration, at least no where NEAR what the fear campaigns had us believe leading up to Obama's election. Now, that may be because he stepped.in way over his head with other issues or it may be that most politicians realize gun rights are a toxic issue. Hell, Kerry went to "buy him a huntin lissence". They know better.

    Yes, we need to remain vigilant but I am pretty burned out at the constant barrage of mail I get talking about the UN taking our guns away. Please.

    We have problems folks. Obama has not and I don't feel will touch guns for the remainder of his term. And in fact, I wouldn't mind him going back in so long as the Senate goes majority Repub. Gridlock is my goal.

    I may even vote for Obama. It would make for a funny story.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,355 Senior Member
    Not the only issue, but important to me. I have read in a few places that Romney is a fan of gun control. If that is the case, he won't be getting my vote.

    When Romney was the Gov. of Mass...he signed an "Assault Weapons Bill" into law...

    http://www.iberkshires.com/story.php?story_id=14812

    of course when he ran for the Republican Presidential Candidate , all of a sudden he was telling everyone how Pro 2A he is... I've got a long memory....and for the most part I am still a single issue voter...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Posts: 4,997 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »

    We have problems folks. Obama has not and I don't feel will touch guns for the remainder of his term. And in fact, I wouldn't mind him going back in so long as the Senate goes majority Repub. Gridlock is my goal.

    I may even vote for Obama. It would make for a funny story.

    Gotta agree with Buffy on this one. The candidates scare me. I'd throw 100% of my support behind the first one that will put DOWN the bible and pick UP the constitution! But I'd settle for another 4 years of Obama as long as the middle and right picked up more sway in congress and the senate
  • bisleybisley Posts: 10,815 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Yes, we need to remain vigilant but I am pretty burned out at the constant barrage of mail I get talking about the UN taking our guns away. Please.

    No one is more tired of the constant fear-mongering by the NRA than I am. And it sickens me to think that the only way we can make politicians uphold the Constitution is to send vast sums of money to a lobbying organization to buy their support for the 2nd amendment.

    But that's what we are down to, at this point. We cannot throw out the sleazebags because they bring home the bacon for those who stand at the mailbox waiting for their handout, and we can't educate the voters about the traditions that made this a great country because they own the airwaves and most of the schools and universities.

    At this point, all we can do is band together and start firing everyone who thinks our remaining wealth belongs to the government, and hope that we can slow our downward spiral into mediocrity in other areas, as well. It took a generation or two to get where we are now, and it will take just as long to recover, if that is even possible. American greatness has always been grounded in the the will and spirit of its common citizens, and the continual degradation of that, through immigration and an over-bearing and out of control government is eroding that.

    To even consider voting for a class envy carnival hawker like Obama is ludicrous to me. Gridlock would definitely be preferable to what we get from lawmakers lately, but it isn't the answer, because Obama will rule by executive order, every time he thinks nobody is looking. He is an "end justifies the means" Marxist who will do anything he can get away with to put his agenda in place.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    I may even vote for Obama. It would make for a funny story.
    Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.....Janis Joplin
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    To even consider voting for a class envy carnival hawker like Obama is ludicrous to me. Gridlock would definitely be preferable to what we get from lawmakers lately, but it isn't the answer, because Obama will rule by executive order, every time he thinks nobody is looking. He is an "end justifies the means" Marxist who will do anything he can get away with to put his agenda in place.
    You got that poo-poo right.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
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