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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 13,993 Senior Member
    I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you build it idiot-proof, they'll just build a better idiot.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 13,993 Senior Member
    Or to put it another way, park rangers and bear biologists have noticed there is an almost complete overlap between the smartest of bears and the dumbest of campers/tourists.  This makes the construction of bear-proof trash cans very difficult to impossible.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Has nothing to do with the safety!  Tex made it VERY clear that this was due to the Serpa holster he was using that day being no good...  So THERE!    >:)

    All jokes aside that idiot Tex almost killed the Serpa singlehandedly.  After his "accident" a bunch of folks started banning the Serpa in the classes and ranges!!!  I STILL hear from supposedly educated people saying the design is flawed...
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    I guess the new guy was not really interested in a discussion?  Only wanted to share his wisdom with us… 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,227 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    I guess the new guy was not really interested in a discussion?  Only wanted to share his wisdom with us… 
    His "wisdom" has been noted...ignored...but noted...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,227 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Has nothing to do with the safety!  Tex made it VERY clear that this was due to the Serpa holster he was using that day being no good...  So THERE!    >:)

    All jokes aside that idiot Tex almost killed the Serpa singlehandedly.  After his "accident" a bunch of folks started banning the Serpa in the classes and ranges!!!  I STILL hear from supposedly educated people saying the design is flawed...
    I have used Sherpas in comps and on duty for years...and just can't help but wonder how in the hell that design contributes to someone shooting themselves...just keep your damned finger off the damned trigger until you're ready to shoot
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,937 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    GunNut said:
    Has nothing to do with the safety!  Tex made it VERY clear that this was due to the Serpa holster he was using that day being no good...  So THERE!    >:)

    All jokes aside that idiot Tex almost killed the Serpa singlehandedly.  After his "accident" a bunch of folks started banning the Serpa in the classes and ranges!!!  I STILL hear from supposedly educated people saying the design is flawed...
    I have used Sherpas in comps and on duty for years...and just can't help but wonder how in the hell that design contributes to someone shooting themselves...just keep your damned finger off the damned trigger until you're ready to shoot
    I still run them almost daily. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 13,993 Senior Member

    I'm just here for snark.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    GunNut said:
    Has nothing to do with the safety!  Tex made it VERY clear that this was due to the Serpa holster he was using that day being no good...  So THERE!    >:)

    All jokes aside that idiot Tex almost killed the Serpa singlehandedly.  After his "accident" a bunch of folks started banning the Serpa in the classes and ranges!!!  I STILL hear from supposedly educated people saying the design is flawed...
    I have used Sherpas in comps and on duty for years...and just can't help but wonder how in the hell that design contributes to someone shooting themselves...just keep your damned finger off the damned trigger until you're ready to shoot
    Tex Grebner, the YouTube sensation, got into the habit of sweeping the thumb safety off when he acquired his grip on a 1911 while the gun is still in the holster.  Not necessarily a "bad" habit, I know a lot of folks that draw a 1911 that way rather successfully, but by sweeping the thumb safety off before drawing you peel off the first TWO layer of the 3 safety layers in the 1911 since now both the thumb AND the grip safety are disengaged, so now you have to exercise a wee bit more caution to make sure that trigger is not addressed before a good sight picture acquisition.

    Then he did the REALLY dumb thing...  He obviously never trained in the proper use of a Serpa so instead of laying his trigger finger fully extended along the outside of the holster he got used to pushing the release with the tip of his finger.  BAD JU-JU!!!!!

    He then proceeded to screw up his draw and tugged HARD at the Serpa (and his belt/pants which were about 3 inches under his butt crack) which usually locks up the works, and this obviously made him push harder with the tip of his trigger finger until enough force was exerted that he finally defeated the holster retention device.  

    Unfortunately, since his trigger finger was already hooked and pushing hard against the holster AND the thumb and grip safeties had already been disengaged with his grip, as the gun was liberated from the holster his booger pick swiftly slid RIGHT INTO the trigger guard with enough force to press the trigger to discharge right into his thigh.

    But it's all good, as he explained in his follow up video, his training took over and he called him mom...


  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,227 Senior Member
    Well...at least the pistol functioned as intended...all the safeties disengaged and when he pulled the trigger it went off...can't blame the gun!
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,359 Senior Member

    What about a Sherpa wearing a Serpa?
    *mind blown*
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 13,993 Senior Member

    What about a Sherpa wearing a Serpa?
    *mind blown*

    That would be the sherpa's Serpa.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Well...at least the pistol functioned as intended...all the safeties disengaged and when he pulled the trigger it went off...can't blame the gun!
    There is that!  Actually the holster did too.  Total user error CF…
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,619 Senior Member
    One of my favorite negligent discharge videos:



    Pistol in question is a Beretta 92 or 96, and I just looked REALLY close - - the hammer starts down in the DA first shot position.

    The manual safety didn't prevent it.

    The DA first shot didn't prevent it - even though the officer is a small-ish female without rippling biceps. Adrenaline alone got her cranking straight through the 10# first shot.

    Now, what I CAN'T divine from the video is that after the ND - as she goes to holster the pistol - does she get the safety/decocker engaged, or is she holstering a cocked and unlocked firearm that has NEITHER the benefit of a 1911's grip safety, or a Glock's all-safeties-re-engage-and-it-decocks-when-you-let-go system.  That could have made an already bad day even worse.

    This individual would likely have had the same ND with any other handgun - proof that Zee is correct in that "Nothing is safe from Stupid".  A Glock, DAO auto, a revolver, or even a 1911 at least take some steps to minimize the chance of a repeat once stupidity is realized.  I think it's my much-loathed DA/SA autos that may be the scarier item in the hands of the ****
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,937 Senior Member
    edited June 2021 #286
    Yep, nothing is safe from STUPID. It defies all logic and common sense to brandish its ever present ability to exist in defiance of Natural Selection. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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