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  • LeadbetterLeadbetter New Member Posts: 5 New Member
    Good thread.

    One of my carry pistols is a Glock. I have no concerns around carrying it with a round chambered. I carry in an appropriate holster and handle it with safety in mind. If the trigger is not depressed, it will not discharge. Stupidity, carelessness, etc. IMO are the culprits. Having said that, no one is perfect and none of us are immune to occasional stupidity. A couple years ago, I made an exceptionally boneheaded move the resulted in my Glock bouncing end-over-end down a particularly long set of basement stairs. The only bang was from my heart hitting the inside of rib cage.

    No data to back anything up, only my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks Big Chief for asking the question...LB
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Leadbetter wrote: »
    Good thread.

    One of my carry pistols is a Glock. I have no concerns around carrying it with a round chambered. I carry in an appropriate holster and handle it with safety in mind. If the trigger is not depressed, it will not discharge. Stupidity, carelessness, etc. IMO are the culprits. Having said that, no one is perfect and none of us are immune to occasional stupidity. A couple years ago, I made an exceptionally boneheaded move the resulted in my Glock bouncing end-over-end down a particularly long set of basement stairs. The only bang was from my heart hitting the inside of rib cage.

    No data to back anything up, only my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks Big Chief for asking the question...LB

    Why you are certainly welcome. It's nice to be appreciated once and a while, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, it happened 60 years ago :tooth::rotflmao: I've seen gun trends come and go, the latest and greatest must have guns and watched most of them fade away or be improved upon or certain caveats required while using/shootin said gun/ammo and so forth.

    The baisc Glock design will be with us a long time to come and what the future will bring in "Improvements/Modifications" only time will tell.

    Be safe!
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,745 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    You can hang 45 safeties off the top, both sides, on the grip, off the end of the barrel, at the top of the grip on either side and internally on the trigger, the magazine and striker then add a flashing neon sign on the rear sight...and some idiot will still manage to 'accidentally' shoot himself or somebody else with it. Why? Because idiots are truly motivated and extremely dedicated.
    :that::agree:
    Just when you think you've idiot proofed something - along come smarter idiots.
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,626 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    :that::agree:
    Just when you think you've idiot proofed something - along come less smarter idiots.

    FIFY :tooth:
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    The Glock (insert model here) is an adequate service sidearm, as safe as its operator.

    Logistics wise it is a good choice, magazines are reliable and cheap and easy to get, aftermarket parts are cheap and easy to get, magazines have always been problematic with many firearms to the point that many firearms manufactures farm out the magazine contracts, Glock seem to have got that right first off.

    Glock firearms are reliable and safe, or I am sure they would not have been chosen as the sidearm of so many agencies, even the FBI.

    When you are on a budget, Glock seems to make sense to Me, consider when you compare the Glock Gen 4 & Gen 3, the Glock Gen 3 is cheaper, $30 or so, however, the Gen 4 comes with 3 magazines, $25 right there, and the other features make the Gen 4 a bargain.

    No, the Glock is no uglier than the high axis bore handguns out there.

    Right now I would say there are two things I would change on a Glock, I would like a factory flat backstrap with beavertail options, and I have decided I hate the Glock RTF as much as I have ever hated anything, I have never had any sidearm feel slippery in My grasp.

    The Glock RTF is rough enough to remove skin off my hands, I can do without that.
    The Glock is a good all around general purpose sidearm, much like a Ford Crown Victoria Police car, it has its place.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Drop your er.... socks and grab yer Glocks. We're gonna have some fun.:tooth::roll2::roll2:
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I guess the double whammy phammy is a guy that has a Glock in 9 mm, a confirmed dyed in the wool .45 acp advocate to boot.

    But frankly, sometimes Glock just makes sense.

    Low parts count, reliable, low weight and high capacity, relatively safe and reliable and budget priced, what is not to like ?

    Yes, Glocks do seem to fall apart after 250,000 rounds, and people do not seem to understand that chambering and unchambering the same darn round too may times, can potentially cause enough bullet set-back to cause excessive chamber pressures and possibly blow up most handguns made.

    The Portland Oregon Police recently K-boomed several Glock 21s in .45 acp and switched to the Glock 17 and Glock 19.
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  • KSDeputyKSDeputy Member Posts: 55 Member
    I never carried or shot a Glock pistol. When I retired my sheriff's office was carrying 4506 pistols. They gave me my recently issued one, that had been to the range once. They now carry .40 caliber Glocks.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    KSDeputy wrote: »
    I never carried or shot a Glock pistol. When I retired my sheriff's office was carrying 4506 pistols. They gave me my recently issued one, that had been to the range once. They now carry .40 caliber Glocks.

    You resurrected a good one here......maybe the "Glockenspiel" debate will start anew :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
    I shot a Glock .40
    I'd rather shoot a glock 10mm
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    I shot a Glock .40
    I'd rather shoot a glock 10mm

    I'd like to do the same with a 10mm :guns::guns:
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  • justin10mmjustin10mm Senior Member Posts: 688 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    I shot a Glock .40
    I'd rather shoot a glock 10mm

    I shoot both from the same gun.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    justin10mm wrote: »
    I shoot both from the same gun.

    Revolver or some kinda conversion kit?
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    Barrel and mag change
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  • topguntopgun Member Posts: 128 Member
    Can I call a quick timeout to get the corn popped and the butter melted?
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
    justin10mm wrote: »
    I shoot both from the same gun.
    I do too using the same clip with mixed loads of .40& 10mm.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    The 40s feed ok in the 10mm mag?
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    The 40s feed ok in the 10mm mag?
    justin10mm was baiting us, I believe we're talking moonclips and revolvers.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    Well that ain't a Glock or a pistol
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  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    justin10mm was baiting us, I believe we're talking moonclips and revolvers.

    Probably not Ned, you can get a conversion barrel for a G20, easy peasy.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    Well that ain't a Glock or a pistol

    As to the pistol part, the definition of pistol can mean any handgun; only you young guys think you re-defined the meaning.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
    Eli wrote: »
    Probably not Ned, you can get a conversion barrel for a G20, easy peasy.
    How about that, if I wanted a conversion barrel I think I'd want .357 sig.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    Thanks Ned, don't think I've been call young in 25 yrs
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,602 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Kid.......
    you know he luvz his grandpa Neduardo :love:
    He even cooked you waffles :rotflmao:
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I think maybe like Army Jeeps I used to drive you had to be careful and fully understand how they operate. They would flip over because the center of gravity if you yanked the steering to hard for a sharp turn, but were capable of of going on forever if knew how too properly drive one. I did for years with no problems, but saw many rolled over when the operator got careless.

    My father told Me the problem with jeeps is people driving them like a passenger car, a jeep is a light truck, and if driven acccordingly, the driver should have no trouble.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Once I find a proper 10mm pistol, I'm through with Glocks.
    '"
    What is proper? Please define proper, is proper The Colt Delta Elite? Europen American Arms? Or Tanfoglios 10 mm? Or a 1911 in 10mm?
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    My father told Me the problem with jeeps is people driving them like a passenger car, a jeep is a light truck, and if driven acccordingly, the driver should have no trouble.

    I drove "Gun Jeeps" (M-60 mount was all we had besides our M-16s) in the 70s when my first enlistment was 11D Calvary Scout/Armored Recon Specialist, now that MOS is 19D. There is an art to not flipping one. We went everywhere in ours and did what I can best describe as "Extreme" maneuvering all over Fort Riley KS. I also drove one in Germany, but a M113 APC was the Scout vehicle there for a 3rd AD (Spearhead) tank battalion I was assigned to .

    I wouldn't come close to those kind of driving stunts we pulled back then, even if I had a Jeep, much older and wiser today.
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  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    As to the pistol part, the definition of pistol can mean any handgun; only you young guys think you re-defined the meaning.

    When I was shopping on line, searches for handgun or revolver scopes yielded no results but "pistol" scopes in the search bar gave me all kinds of stuff and most pictures were of revolvers. For that and other reasons I think the argument is silly unless the distinction is important for some reason.
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