The Glock (insert model here) is an adequate service sidearm, as safe as its operator.
Logistics wise it is a good choice, magazines are reliable and cheap and easy to get, aftermarket parts are cheap and easy to get, magazines have always been problematic with many firearms to the point that many firearms manufactures farm out the magazine contracts, Glock seem to have got that right first off.
Glock firearms are reliable and safe, or I am sure they would not have been chosen as the sidearm of so many agencies, even the FBI.
When you are on a budget, Glock seems to make sense to Me, consider when you compare the Glock Gen 4 & Gen 3, the Glock Gen 3 is cheaper, $30 or so, however, the Gen 4 comes with 3 magazines, $25 right there, and the other features make the Gen 4 a bargain.
No, the Glock is no uglier than the high axis bore handguns out there.
Right now I would say there are two things I would change on a Glock, I would like a factory flat backstrap with beavertail options, and I have decided I hate the Glock RTF as much as I have ever hated anything, I have never had any sidearm feel slippery in My grasp.
The Glock RTF is rough enough to remove skin off my hands, I can do without that.
The Glock is a good all around general purpose sidearm, much like a Ford Crown Victoria Police car, it has its place.
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Drop your er.... socks and grab yer Glocks. We're gonna have some fun.:tooth::roll2::roll2:
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I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I guess the double whammy phammy is a guy that has a Glock in 9 mm, a confirmed dyed in the wool .45 acp advocate to boot.
But frankly, sometimes Glock just makes sense.
Low parts count, reliable, low weight and high capacity, relatively safe and reliable and budget priced, what is not to like ?
Yes, Glocks do seem to fall apart after 250,000 rounds, and people do not seem to understand that chambering and unchambering the same darn round too may times, can potentially cause enough bullet set-back to cause excessive chamber pressures and possibly blow up most handguns made.
The Portland Oregon Police recently K-boomed several Glock 21s in .45 acp and switched to the Glock 17 and Glock 19.
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I never carried or shot a Glock pistol. When I retired my sheriff's office was carrying 4506 pistols. They gave me my recently issued one, that had been to the range once. They now carry .40 caliber Glocks.
I never carried or shot a Glock pistol. When I retired my sheriff's office was carrying 4506 pistols. They gave me my recently issued one, that had been to the range once. They now carry .40 caliber Glocks.
You resurrected a good one here......maybe the "Glockenspiel" debate will start anew :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I think maybe like Army Jeeps I used to drive you had to be careful and fully understand how they operate. They would flip over because the center of gravity if you yanked the steering to hard for a sharp turn, but were capable of of going on forever if knew how too properly drive one. I did for years with no problems, but saw many rolled over when the operator got careless.
My father told Me the problem with jeeps is people driving them like a passenger car, a jeep is a light truck, and if driven acccordingly, the driver should have no trouble.
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Once I find a proper 10mm pistol, I'm through with Glocks.
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What is proper? Please define proper, is proper The Colt Delta Elite? Europen American Arms? Or Tanfoglios 10 mm? Or a 1911 in 10mm?
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My father told Me the problem with jeeps is people driving them like a passenger car, a jeep is a light truck, and if driven acccordingly, the driver should have no trouble.
I drove "Gun Jeeps" (M-60 mount was all we had besides our M-16s) in the 70s when my first enlistment was 11D Calvary Scout/Armored Recon Specialist, now that MOS is 19D. There is an art to not flipping one. We went everywhere in ours and did what I can best describe as "Extreme" maneuvering all over Fort Riley KS. I also drove one in Germany, but a M113 APC was the Scout vehicle there for a 3rd AD (Spearhead) tank battalion I was assigned to .
I wouldn't come close to those kind of driving stunts we pulled back then, even if I had a Jeep, much older and wiser today.
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I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
As to the pistol part, the definition of pistol can mean any handgun; only you young guys think you re-defined the meaning.
When I was shopping on line, searches for handgun or revolver scopes yielded no results but "pistol" scopes in the search bar gave me all kinds of stuff and most pictures were of revolvers. For that and other reasons I think the argument is silly unless the distinction is important for some reason.
Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
There is no arguement, in the days of the single shot matchlock, the short version was called a pistole or handgun, later on someone invented the revolving pistole, the pistole or handgun was a short handy firearm to include the semiautomatic pistol or handgun. History is a great thing.
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To answer the original poster,
I CCW a Glock as an EDC & OC currently, OC = only carry.
I am very happy and safe.
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Saw this old discussion and just HAD to comment. Glocks are unsafe, period! I'm amazed how many jump to defend this ugly duckling that has NO MANUAL SAFETY! If keeping you finger off of the trigger is the only safety, it has none, eh? Fact: "Touch" that trigger and it will go BANG, whether in your holster, pointed at your femoral artery or a perp. I'm German and admire the reliability of the design that came out of Austria. However, the ingenious desingner had no prior experience with handguns. Ergo the lack of a manual safety. This writer is incredulous as to how Glocks were originally approved for import and are even now, approved for import. Yep, I've read all about the ingenious marketing.
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Logistics wise it is a good choice, magazines are reliable and cheap and easy to get, aftermarket parts are cheap and easy to get, magazines have always been problematic with many firearms to the point that many firearms manufactures farm out the magazine contracts, Glock seem to have got that right first off.
Glock firearms are reliable and safe, or I am sure they would not have been chosen as the sidearm of so many agencies, even the FBI.
When you are on a budget, Glock seems to make sense to Me, consider when you compare the Glock Gen 4 & Gen 3, the Glock Gen 3 is cheaper, $30 or so, however, the Gen 4 comes with 3 magazines, $25 right there, and the other features make the Gen 4 a bargain.
No, the Glock is no uglier than the high axis bore handguns out there.
Right now I would say there are two things I would change on a Glock, I would like a factory flat backstrap with beavertail options, and I have decided I hate the Glock RTF as much as I have ever hated anything, I have never had any sidearm feel slippery in My grasp.
The Glock RTF is rough enough to remove skin off my hands, I can do without that.
The Glock is a good all around general purpose sidearm, much like a Ford Crown Victoria Police car, it has its place.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
But frankly, sometimes Glock just makes sense.
Low parts count, reliable, low weight and high capacity, relatively safe and reliable and budget priced, what is not to like ?
Yes, Glocks do seem to fall apart after 250,000 rounds, and people do not seem to understand that chambering and unchambering the same darn round too may times, can potentially cause enough bullet set-back to cause excessive chamber pressures and possibly blow up most handguns made.
The Portland Oregon Police recently K-boomed several Glock 21s in .45 acp and switched to the Glock 17 and Glock 19.
You resurrected a good one here......maybe the "Glockenspiel" debate will start anew :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I'd rather shoot a glock 10mm
I'd like to do the same with a 10mm :guns::guns:
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I shoot both from the same gun.
Revolver or some kinda conversion kit?
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Probably not Ned, you can get a conversion barrel for a G20, easy peasy.
As to the pistol part, the definition of pistol can mean any handgun; only you young guys think you re-defined the meaning.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
My father told Me the problem with jeeps is people driving them like a passenger car, a jeep is a light truck, and if driven acccordingly, the driver should have no trouble.
What is proper? Please define proper, is proper The Colt Delta Elite? Europen American Arms? Or Tanfoglios 10 mm? Or a 1911 in 10mm?
I drove "Gun Jeeps" (M-60 mount was all we had besides our M-16s) in the 70s when my first enlistment was 11D Calvary Scout/Armored Recon Specialist, now that MOS is 19D. There is an art to not flipping one. We went everywhere in ours and did what I can best describe as "Extreme" maneuvering all over Fort Riley KS. I also drove one in Germany, but a M113 APC was the Scout vehicle there for a 3rd AD (Spearhead) tank battalion I was assigned to .
I wouldn't come close to those kind of driving stunts we pulled back then, even if I had a Jeep, much older and wiser today.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
When I was shopping on line, searches for handgun or revolver scopes yielded no results but "pistol" scopes in the search bar gave me all kinds of stuff and most pictures were of revolvers. For that and other reasons I think the argument is silly unless the distinction is important for some reason.
I CCW a Glock as an EDC & OC currently, OC = only carry.
I am very happy and safe.