Problem with a P 14

Gene L

It won't load the last round in the magazine. Gets hung up. I put a empty in the mag so it'll load the rest of them but it sure won't load the last round.

Any ideas?

breamfisher

In pistols, that would be symptomatic of a weak magazine spring, gunked up magazine, or something else either impeding the magazine follower from fully raising, or contributing to sluggish action.

I don't know if it's applicable in this situation.

Eli

Not at all familiar with this design.........

Could the follower be messed up? If it is a slight deformation, it could allow the upper rounds to feed, but be wonky enough to effect the feeding of the last round........either that, or more likely, what Earl said a weakened spring.

SirGeorgeKillian

I agree, that sounds mag related. Does it do it with other mags?

Big Al1

Considering the age of the rifle, I would have to agree with mag spring and maybe the follower, too.
Rimmed cases are a little more finicky, too.

Gene L

SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »

I agree, that sounds mag related. Does it do it with other mags?

There are no other mags. It's a Mauser action.

Gene L

Thanks to all. Teach, in a PM, solved the problem. I needed to bend the spring down, and now it loads fine. Now, if I could just get it to shoot!

ddriller

The P14 is a Mauser action? I never heard that before.

Gene L

Yep. A beefed-up 94 action.

snake284

ddriller wrote: »

The P14 is a Mauser action? I never heard that before.

A 1914 and 1917 Enfield is not a Mauser per se, but it's the same thing even down to the bolt release-ejector. In my opinion it is more a Mauser than a 1903 Springfield, of which the US was accused of stealing the design from Mauser and made to pay a penalty. The only thing is in regards to the bolt it is cock on closing which the older Mauser designs before the 98 were. The 98 is cock on opening which you can easily convert the U.S. Enfield to with the addition of a Speed-Lock. The U.S. Enfields, both 1914 and 1917 are very strong designs.

Gene L

It is a Mauser action, and GB had to pay Mauser for the rights. It feeds from the magazine and the magazine is enbloc. That's a Mauser.

It's strong, was designed to handle a .276 rimless high-speed cartridge that got dropped because of WW I. They were made in America in .303 because we had the industrial skill to turn them out, and when GB got caught up with the No I SMLEs. None were ever used by the British on the front in WW I, but plenty of 1917s were.

ddriller

It is my understanding that the royalty was paid because the springfield and others used the stripper clip-which was patented by Mauser.IIRC the US government had to pay about $1.06 per action and a penny per stripper clip.That cut on top of the reciever to use the stripper clip was covered by patents.

Gene L

That's what makes a Mauser a Mauser: clip loading and feeding from the magazine. Plus the bolt design with two (or three) lugs.

The Springfield had a two-piece firing pin, maybe to try to get around the patent.