Bake sale

Buford

They do have a point.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/25/us/california-racial-bake-sale/index.html

NN

And it is?

Buford

Why should race have anything to do with school admissions. How about going on merit?

JerryBobCo

Yes, they do. I saw this on TV (Fox News) yesterday or this morning, and thought it was great.

Their point is pretty well summed up in the following statement by one of the bake sale organizers.

"The pricing structure is there to bring attention, to cause people to get a little upset," Campus Republican President Shawn Lewis, who planned the event, told CNN-affiliate KGO. "But it's really there to cause people to think more critically about what this kind of policy would do in university admissions."

Lewis says it's a way to make a statement about pending legislation that would let the California universities consider race or national origin during the admission process."

DoctorWho

How about the scandals in NYC under affirmative action reform a white applicant for NYCPD or FDNY could score a 100 % on the writen exam and get placed last on the hire list and a minority that gets a 65% barely passing and gets fast tracked into the academy ?

Is that fair ??

Affirmative action is not about fair or merit, it is about so called balancing the scales, read tipping them in favor of minorities and particular etnic groups or races.

robert38-55

I saw that article yesterday morning too, on Fox and Friends. The idea I got was this: The point they are trying to make is, there seems to be different admission standards for different folks. I mean depending on if one is white Asian Black, Hispanic etc. And thats just wrong... As a matter of fact thats 800 kind of ways wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a quote from the article:

"There are a lot of ways to make a point about your disagreement with affirmative action," Wise told Lemon Saturday night

We all know about the so called "affirmative action" laws and what they are all about.

Upon further reseach I found this, a history of affirmitive action compliants, from not only California but other colleges too..

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sats/race/summary.html


http://cypheroftyr.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/affirmative-action-ban-at-ca-college-is-affecting-minority-numbers/

In my humble opinion what all this is leading up to is free education for illegal immigrants,from our US government grants money... It is just wonderful ain't it?(Sarcastically speaking that is) The California S.B. 185 if signed into law would be in opposition to Proposition 209 AKA California Civil Rights Initiative, approved in 1996
This link has more details about the bake sale and the motive behind it:

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/controversial-bake-sale-highlights-debate-on-bill-allowing-california-colleges-to-consider-race-gen/question-2184739/

The other thing that has always bothered me in this country is that the state of California is the testing ground for all new laws. Once a California state law is passed the the Federal Government will either adopt that law and make in National or ratify it in some way and then make it Federal Law.
Pure "Outragous" I tell ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well what can one expect when a state like California offers political leaders like: Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, etc.

DCortez

Woo hoo, I get half off!

DCortez

BTW, does anyone know the difference between Latino and Hispanic? Seems I've been one all my life and never knew it.

breamfisher

I've heard some prefer the term "latino" as they want to avoid any designation with the word "panic" as part of the nomenclature.

tennmike

The Navy did the much the same thing in the 1970s after the draft ended, but it was sex discrimination. When the draft ended, the Navy was having trouble filling their recruitment quotas, so they opened up lots more billets to WAVEs. The Navy fast tracked them in promotions; I got passed over twice even with near perfect scores on advancement tests; I couldn't make more than 100%, but the WAVEs that took the same test got bonus points that could easily put them over 100%. And since they didn't go to sea, they stopped up all the shore billets, and screwed up the sea-shore duty rotation to the max. These two little experiments caused retention of males in these billets to plummet when their time to re-up came around. And why not; no hope of promotion, and 12 years sea duty before any hope of a 4 year shore duty rotation.

This is just another experiment in political correctness; merit means nothing, or not much. Only racial, ethnic, and/or sex are considered, with academic standing coming in last. Sounds good until you realize your doctor was way down in the ranks academically, barely squeaked by, in fact, but got put to the head of the line because of some other factor(s). Academic standing first, middle, and last in admission, and the devil take the hindmost.

bobbyrlf3

I'm going to have to read how the bill is written. Wouldn't it be interesting if the language provided that race can be a consideration in admissions, and some schools used it to allow only one race of students?

Jermanator

What gets me is that scientifically, there is no such thing as race. It is just an imaginary concept that humans use as justification to treat other humans like crap. Racism will exist for as long as people keep perpetuating that myth. If people were to become truly enlightened, race would be a non issue.

Ethnicity describes the cultural identity of groups of humans and is very much real, but race is about as real as the tooth fairy.

DoctorWho

"Racism will exist for as long as people keep perpetuating that myth. If people were to become truly enlightened, race would be a non issue."


Just watch the old Star Trek episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" and it really makes a great point.