6mm Remington in the Mill

snake284

OK, this has been a big summer for me and guns. I bought a Model 200 Stevens in .223 Remington, a Ruger 10-22, I had a .257 Roberts AI built, I bought a 7mm Rem. Mag. on an auction on Gun Broker, and now, my gunsmith has another of my Yugos doing his magic and transforming it into a sporter. When I left it with him I just told him to bend the bolt, drill and tap the receiver, take the rear site off of the barrel so I could mount a scope, and put a Beuler Safety on it so it will clear the scope. But these are not expensive to have done and if I'm going to do this, I might as well have him put on a Timney trigger, screw in a 24" Shilen Sporter diameter barrel, and mount a Leupold Redfield Revolutions 4-12X40 Scope on it. Then that will do me for rifles for awhile. This will give me time to contemplate my final Yugo build which will probably be something in the 6.5mm class. Here's a pic of the soon to be 6mm Remington rifle with none of the revisions done to it yet except it is on the Boyd's Pepper Laminate Stock that I finished in Poly Urethane.

snake284

I want him to put a sporter weight 24" SS Shilen barrel on it. I will have him bead blast the barrel and then I'll paint the barrel with Krylon Camoflauge paint. This will be strictly a hunting rifle. I miss my 6mm Remington that I lost in the divorce in 2001. But I think this will be somewhat of an improvement. That was a Remington BDL short action. This is a Yugo action and though it is not as long as a K-98, it is a bit longer than the 700 short action, especially in the magazine which will allow me to seat bullets out farther. Actually, I never used anything longer than a 100 grain Game King and I never really had an issue with it in the BDL, but it will have a little more breathing room should I ever want to try a longer bullet. But that is a moot point too because this will be a 1-10 twist and once you get much over 100 grains in a Spitzer bullet, it is advised you have a tighter twist such as a 1-9. However, one problem I've been hearing with the tighter twist is you really loose Muzzle Velocity, and Velocity is one thing the 6mms have going for them, both the .243 Winchester and the 6mm Remington. As I've said before, if I want to shoot heavier bullets, I have my two quarter bores, the .250 Savage and now the .257 AI. A 6mm-.243 with a good 90-100 grain bullet is a deer killing machine and with some of the monolithic bullets such as Barnes, even the 80-87 grain bullets work well to deer size game. Plus you can drop down in weight and it's a great varminter. To me, the 6mm class is the best of the dual purpose cartridges for varmint and deer.

robert38-55

Snake judging by the content of your two post I would say that you got that 6mm rifle problem figured out.... Nice looking rifle ya got there!!!!! A man can't have enough rifles......

Linefinder

snake284 wrote: »

However, one problem I've been hearing with the tighter twist is you really loose Muzzle Velocity, and Velocity is one thing the 6mms have going for them, both the .243 Winchester and the 6mm Remington.

Yeah, I hate those 9 twist 6mm Rem barrels. That's what mine is. It pushes 55 grainers at only a touch above 4K, 75 grainers at 3700, and 95's at 3300. With such poor performance, about all it's good for is bustin garden squirrels in the backyard, though I'm going to attempt to scare an antelope with it this Saturday.

Mike

wildgene

Linefinder wrote: »

Yeah, I hate those 9 twist 6mm Rem barrels. That's what mine is. It pushes 55 grainers at only a touch above 4K, 75 grainers at 3700, and 95's at 3300. With such poor performance, about all it's good for is bustin garden squirrels in the backyard, though I'm going to attempt to scare an antelope with it this Saturday.

Mike

...such a shame, w/ a 1:10" twist you could probably gain 30-40 fps & turn that rifle into a "shooter"...:jester:

MileHighShooter

Linefinder wrote: »

Yeah, I hate those 9 twist 6mm Rem barrels. That's what mine is. It pushes 55 grainers at only a touch above 4K, 75 grainers at 3700, and 95's at 3300. With such poor performance, about all it's good for is bustin garden squirrels in the backyard, though I'm going to attempt to scare an antelope with it this Saturday.

Mike

I think the goats are going to mock you. Just not possible for that rifle to shoot well

Big Al1

Mike, I bet your gunsmith thanks you every day for putting his kids through college!!:roll2:
I doing the same you are, after all these year it's catch up time.

snake284

Linefinder wrote: »

Yeah, I hate those 9 twist 6mm Rem barrels. That's what mine is. It pushes 55 grainers at only a touch above 4K, 75 grainers at 3700, and 95's at 3300. With such poor performance, about all it's good for is bustin garden squirrels in the backyard, though I'm going to attempt to scare an antelope with it this Saturday.

Mike

Maybe I got some bad info here, but I was hearing that the 1-9 twist was slower by 200-300 FPS. I know mine with 100 grain bullets was straining to get 3,000 FPS. But it was only a 22 inch barrel. It did do better with lighter bullets. I guess I need to do a little more research and rethink that. I did not realize yours was a 1-9 twist.

snake284

Big Al1 wrote: »

Mike, I bet your gunsmith thanks you every day for putting his kids through college!!:roll2:
I doing the same you are, after all these year it's catch up time.

hahaha! Well, I think he's a confirmed bachelor without kids, but I'm pretty sure I'm doing my share to fund his retirement fund, LOLOLOLOL!!!

Airedale

It's a trade off. If you want to stabilize bullets more than 100 grains or so, you'll need to go to a faster twist. You may lose some velocity, but you'll gain it back in accuracy....And accuracy is what it's all about, isn't it?
Jim

snake284

Not sure Airdale, because I don't plan to shoot heavier bullets than 100 grains in it. I wouldn't mind the 1-9 if I thought I needed it. I had one before that was 1-9. Like I said, it seemed to strain to get 3,000 FPS with a 100 grain Game King. But then it was only a 22 inch barrel and my particular load was about identical to my Speer Reloading Manual for a 100 grain bullet which was something like 3,007 FPS MV with, I think, 45 grains or so IMR 4831 (don't hold me to that exactly, but off the top of my head that is close). I have no clue what it would be with a 1-10 twist because the rifle used in the loading data was also a Remington with a 1-9 twist. I just kept hearing that the faster twist would slow it down, and I think one strong point of the 6mms is their velocity. But like I said before, if I want to shoot a heavier bullet I'll just use either my .250 Savage or my .257 Bob AI with a 110-117 grain bullet. I used to shoot 100 grain bullets at deer with my 6mm, but that was 10-20 or more years ago and bullets are better now days and the lighter bullets hold together better. I have heard so many on here talk about 90 and 95 grain bullets at 3,200-3,400 FPS doing a good job on deer size game. That sounds like what I want to pursue, so I am thinking 1-10 twist in a 24 inch light sporter barrel. I have so many heavy rifles that I want to build this one lighter. And I'm not eaten up with heavier bullet syndrome for it like I am with my two .25s, both of which are on the heavy side.