There's not enough difference in accuracy between the mag and the lr cylinder in my gun to even get worried about. Both cylinders shoot extremely well.
A couple of years ago, I posted that I traded an old "6 shot revolver" for a "9 shot revolver". Who wouldn't want a 22 caliber revolver
with 50% more capacity? Well, it was my Colt Diamondback for a Taurus 94.
It was an April Fool's day joke, and I caught a few folks off guard.
But, I must say that I really like my Taurus 94 revolver. I know there's not a lot of folks who like them, but my Taurus 22 wheelgun is very
dependable and for a nine shot revolver, is relatively compact. I like mine!
That's not true The 22WMR is a larger diameter bullet than the 22LR. The barrel is set up for larger WMR it shoots 22LR fine but the WMR will be more accurate.
Remember the .22 LR is soft lead, the higher chamber pressure makes the heal flare out and seal in gasses, accuracy in .22 magnum may suffer however.
I still remember My K-22 in .22 LR, 6 inch barrel and very accurate.
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There's not enough difference in accuracy between the mag and the lr cylinder in my gun to even get worried about. Both cylinders shoot extremely well.
Consider yourself lucky then. I've shot three of them with both cylinders...... the .22mag's were a lot better. If the one I owned shot .22LR as well as the mag's, I wouldn't have sold it...
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Consider yourself lucky then. I've shot three of them with both cylinders...... the .22mag's were a lot better. If the one I owned shot .22LR as well as the mag's, I wouldn't have sold it...
As with most 22's they will show a real preference for one brand of ammo over another.
The big problem is the long freebore the 22 bullet has to go thru to get out of the cylinder. Uniformity of the cylinder throat diameter will be a real factor in accuracy.
This stuff about the 22 mag barrel being bigger, is just wrong, and a simple google search for the saami specs on both cartridges can clarify a lot of the myth's oft spread around. The bullet diameter for the 22 mag is actually smaller than for the 22 lr... The 22 magum case is larger because the bearing surface of the bullet is held inside the case, where the 22 lr is a heeled bullet and the bearing surface of the bullet is the same diameter as the outside of the case.
So yes there are some known accuracy problems with the convertible cylinder models, from all the manufacturers, but there's more guns that actually shoot well , than don't other wise we wouldn't have had the option to buy them for the last 50 years...
Those run in the neighborhood of $500 these days, right:jester: The grips really set it off too:applause:
I checked on the Colt forum, nice,clean DiamondBacks are going for $1,000 to $2,000! And upwards of that if they have a 2" or 6" barrel. Made my jaw drop!
In my experience, the best "all bases covered" choice is a S&W 617 with a 4" barrel. Long enough to plink at different distances or even hunt small game, but still comfortable enough to pack. Has usually great trigger in both DA/SA, stainless steel finish makes it more corrosion-resistant, sights are adjustable and usually works fine with everything you feed it with.
Haven't tested the Rugers a lot, but a friend of mine has a .22LR snubbie and it seems to work flawlessly; might be a great 2nd. choice.
If you're looking for a "cowboy-style" SA, the Ruger Single Six family is hard to beat, specially if you're considering something either brand new or recently produced. Once you've found the proper rounds for it, you can expect pretty good accuracy. Only have to decide what finish, barrel length and type of sights fit your needs and you're ready to go.
Mine? Old model Ruger Super Single Six with 6+" barrel (My favorite), Webley Mk IV and S&W Model 35.
I checked on the Colt forum, nice,clean DiamondBacks are going for $1,000 to $2,000! And upwards of that if they have a 2" or 6" barrel. Made my jaw drop!
I traded a S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece + $100 cash for mine (the one pictured above) back in the 80's. We were both happy! :up:
He wanted a 38 Special & I wanted a 22.
There's no such thing as having too much ammo, unless you're on fire or trying to swim!
Had a yak with her last nite - she said she would prefer a DA gun, just so that she has the option; even though she's most likely to fire it SA. The S&W 617 is certainly on the short list.
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I had an H&R like that with the extra .22 mag cylinder back in the 80s and put many a thousands of rounds through it. It was SS or Nickel plated. Slow to load/unload but some real fun to shoot. Wish I'd have kept it.
I only have a few (3) .22 revolvers, should have bought more when they were affordable. A S&W Model 64, a Colt Official Police and a Comanche (?) I got in a trade for a Heritage Rough Rider and never fired.
Ruger single six is first choice...if you can find one.
Otherwise...FWIW
H&R DA...
Sauer and Sohn DA...
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It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
As with most 22's they will show a real preference for one brand of ammo over another.
The big problem is the long freebore the 22 bullet has to go thru to get out of the cylinder. Uniformity of the cylinder throat diameter will be a real factor in accuracy.
This stuff about the 22 mag barrel being bigger, is just wrong, and a simple google search for the saami specs on both cartridges can clarify a lot of the myth's oft spread around. The bullet diameter for the 22 mag is actually smaller than for the 22 lr... The 22 magum case is larger because the bearing surface of the bullet is held inside the case, where the 22 lr is a heeled bullet and the bearing surface of the bullet is the same diameter as the outside of the case.
So yes there are some known accuracy problems with the convertible cylinder models, from all the manufacturers, but there's more guns that actually shoot well , than don't other wise we wouldn't have had the option to buy them for the last 50 years...
I always try many types of ammo..... and long rifle is .223'', WRM is .224'', and WRF is .226''
Early LR only Single Sixes had a BD of .222", the new ones are .224''
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I'd like her to try both. I personally would prefer a 6 inch, but its not my gun. She would probably be better off with a 4 for a variety of reasons.
4". There is no loss in accuracy; the difference in velocity is negligible; and they're just much more convenient because of the shorter barrel. Plus, as you get older IMO it becomes easier to see the sights if they're closer together.
Luis
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I always try many types of ammo..... and long rifle is .223'', WRM is .224'', and WRF is .226''
Early LR only Single Sixes had a BD of .222", the new ones are .224''
I have known people who had convertibles that were DEFINITELY more accurate with 22 mag than with 22 lr. Having said that, it's also true that MOST people aren't sufficiently skilled to tell the difference.
Luis
Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
I traded a S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece + $100 cash for mine (the one pictured above) back in the 80's. We were both happy! :up:
He wanted a 38 Special & I wanted a 22.
Nice trade shooter, I got mine years & years ago at a local gunshow, It's a 6" barrel, came with the box. The guy wanted $500 I think...I got it for $400. The same guy had a table at a show just a year or 2 ago, recognized me and asked If I still had it.
I said yes, but that it wasn't for sale. They sure have appreciated!
No personal experience, but what about an H&R 922 "trapper" model, there's always a few kicking around gunbroker, and the older models with the octagonal barrels are neat, DA/SA and probably comes in under budget, everything on the net says they are good shooters.
Yeah, Diamondbacks are getting as crazy as Pythons these days. I got one of the newer Ruger SP101s last year and it's been a lot of fun, for around $500.
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We both have shot the Ruger MKIII - with opposite results. I loved it so much, that I just bought one for myself, its still "in jail" for another week. My wife doesn't like flying brass. I mean, REALLY doesn't like flying brass. Besides, she's been shooting a .357 magnum/.38 spcl Revolver (Ruger Security Six), so it makes sense for her .22 to be a revolver as well.
-Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
That won't happen - she really wants a revolver. Neat and clean - with no flying brass.
If Momma ain't happy nobody is happy, I get it. So if a SA it must be, find ya a nice used Ruger. A .22LR off the used rack is usually a good choice.
Keep us posted.
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I have this one also, zero complaints, it is the kids favorite handgun to shoot.
Nice Ruger!:jester:
with 50% more capacity? Well, it was my Colt Diamondback for a Taurus 94.
It was an April Fool's day joke, and I caught a few folks off guard.
But, I must say that I really like my Taurus 94 revolver. I know there's not a lot of folks who like them, but my Taurus 22 wheelgun is very
dependable and for a nine shot revolver, is relatively compact. I like mine!
http://forums.gunsandammo.com/showthread.php?5508-Traded-an-old-Colt-for-a-new-Taurus&highlight=april+fools
Remember the .22 LR is soft lead, the higher chamber pressure makes the heal flare out and seal in gasses, accuracy in .22 magnum may suffer however.
I still remember My K-22 in .22 LR, 6 inch barrel and very accurate.
Consider yourself lucky then. I've shot three of them with both cylinders...... the .22mag's were a lot better. If the one I owned shot .22LR as well as the mag's, I wouldn't have sold it...
As with most 22's they will show a real preference for one brand of ammo over another.
The big problem is the long freebore the 22 bullet has to go thru to get out of the cylinder. Uniformity of the cylinder throat diameter will be a real factor in accuracy.
This stuff about the 22 mag barrel being bigger, is just wrong, and a simple google search for the saami specs on both cartridges can clarify a lot of the myth's oft spread around. The bullet diameter for the 22 mag is actually smaller than for the 22 lr... The 22 magum case is larger because the bearing surface of the bullet is held inside the case, where the 22 lr is a heeled bullet and the bearing surface of the bullet is the same diameter as the outside of the case.
So yes there are some known accuracy problems with the convertible cylinder models, from all the manufacturers, but there's more guns that actually shoot well , than don't other wise we wouldn't have had the option to buy them for the last 50 years...
I checked on the Colt forum, nice,clean DiamondBacks are going for $1,000 to $2,000! And upwards of that if they have a 2" or 6" barrel. Made my jaw drop!
Haven't tested the Rugers a lot, but a friend of mine has a .22LR snubbie and it seems to work flawlessly; might be a great 2nd. choice.
If you're looking for a "cowboy-style" SA, the Ruger Single Six family is hard to beat, specially if you're considering something either brand new or recently produced. Once you've found the proper rounds for it, you can expect pretty good accuracy. Only have to decide what finish, barrel length and type of sights fit your needs and you're ready to go.
Mine? Old model Ruger Super Single Six with 6+" barrel (My favorite), Webley Mk IV and S&W Model 35.
I traded a S&W Model 15 Combat Masterpiece + $100 cash for mine (the one pictured above) back in the 80's. We were both happy! :up:
He wanted a 38 Special & I wanted a 22.
I only have a few (3) .22 revolvers, should have bought more when they were affordable. A S&W Model 64, a Colt Official Police and a Comanche (?) I got in a trade for a Heritage Rough Rider and never fired.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
A 4 or 6 inch ?.......with the full underlug the 6 is quite muzzle heavy just something to be aware of in my opinion.
I always try many types of ammo..... and long rifle is .223'', WRM is .224'', and WRF is .226''
Early LR only Single Sixes had a BD of .222", the new ones are .224''
4". There is no loss in accuracy; the difference in velocity is negligible; and they're just much more convenient because of the shorter barrel. Plus, as you get older IMO it becomes easier to see the sights if they're closer together.
Luis
I have known people who had convertibles that were DEFINITELY more accurate with 22 mag than with 22 lr. Having said that, it's also true that MOST people aren't sufficiently skilled to tell the difference.
Luis
Nice trade shooter, I got mine years & years ago at a local gunshow, It's a 6" barrel, came with the box. The guy wanted $500 I think...I got it for $400. The same guy had a table at a show just a year or 2 ago, recognized me and asked If I still had it.
I said yes, but that it wasn't for sale. They sure have appreciated!
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/12663021/revolvers-for-sale/new/hi-standard-hombre-revolver-9-shot-22-rimfire-nice-old-gun
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hey that closed without your initials in the winning bidder location.
Sako
Holy Crap you made me take a second look, I know I have been on there a lot lately but DIDNT THINK I BID ON THAT ONE???
If Momma ain't happy nobody is happy, I get it. So if a SA it must be, find ya a nice used Ruger. A .22LR off the used rack is usually a good choice.
Keep us posted.