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New Aussie regs regardin coke bottles and fireams........

orchidmanorchidman Posts: 8,438 Senior Member
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Sooooo.....I don't get it...

    1. Can you drink coke at a gun range and then destroy or securely dispose of the bottle once empty...or...
    2. ALL empty coke bottles anywhere in the country are now potential silencers...or...
    3. They will be banning all...soda bottles, oil filters, well...ANY bottle-shaped container?

    What kind of cockamamie **** is this?
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  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    Me thinks those Aussie politicians need to pull their heads out of that hole "Down Under" What a Crock, Mate.
  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    Bloomberg moved to Oz???
    The answer to 1984 is 1776
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Empty soda bottles can be used as silencers! How cool is that. I have almost 4 million 3 liter soda bottles refilled with water in my storage room. Very cool.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    Empty soda bottles can be used as silencers! How cool is that. I have almost 4 million 3 liter soda bottles refilled with water in my storage room. Very cool.
    Are there any real statistics of plastic soda bottles being criminally used as silencers?
  • ArtemisArtemis Posts: 124 Member
    sgtrock21 wrote: »
    Are there any real statistics of plastic soda bottles being criminally used as silencers?
    I seriously doubt it. Next they'll be banning anyone from having their own thoughts or free will..........

    When I think back to my childhood and the stuff that I got up to, when that is placed in context of nowadays, I would most likely be labelled mentally unbalanced, dangerous and a serious threat to the community. Probably a good job I joined the army and had those childhood interests purposefully and usefully channelled, and my knowledge expanded.
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    Artemis wrote: »
    I seriously doubt it. Next they'll be banning anyone from having their own thoughts or free will..........

    When I think back to my childhood and the stuff that I got up to, when that is placed in context of nowadays, I would most likely be labelled mentally unbalanced, dangerous and a serious threat to the community. Probably a good job I joined the army and had those childhood interests purposefully and usefully channelled, and my knowledge expanded.
    "Next they'll be banning anyone from having their own thoughts or free will.........."
    That is their fondest dream!

    "When I think back to my childhood and the stuff that I got up to, when that is placed in context of nowadays, I would most likely be labeled mentally unbalanced, dangerous and a serious threat to the community. Probably a good job I joined the army and had those childhood interests purposefully and usefully channeled, and my knowledge expanded."

    Match head bombs. Home made gunpowder. Major fireworks imported from Wyoming during family vacations. Plastic models (including the USS Arizona) blown up. I would now be considered a potential terrorist at the age of 12! I ended up taking your route by joining the Army. 30+ years all Aviation. Although I didn't get to blow things up like the Combat Engineers. I did have some fun with .38 revolvers, .45 and 9mm semi autos, M-16 automatic fire, LAW and M-203, M-60 ground and M-60D aerial gunnery, M-2 .50 Cal., Driving all kinds of vehicles including an M-60 Tank and M-2 Bradley, Plus flying in and flying twin turboprop fully aerobatic high performance airplanes and all kinds of helicopters plus learning many skills. Like a kid in a candy store even though I was 25 to 56 years old! In 2000 I was deployed to the former Yugoslavia (Bosnia) in a MEDEVAC detachment. It was a combat zone conspicuously lacking combat. It was a working vacation with decent quarters and incredible food! I was able to tour the entire area of operation (Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, and Hungary) in our "flying 5 tons" (UH-60 Blackhawks). For my 18 days leave I bought a EURAIL pass for $550 it included first class travel by rail and even covered light rail, subways and trolleys. We were flown free by C-130 to Ramstein Germany AFB and back. I visited Germany, Switzerland, France, Monaco, Northern Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Czech Republic, and the former East Germany. I planned on visiting Poland but realized it was really big and would cost me 3 days. I was in Trieste Italy wanting to go to Budapest Hungary. I had to cross Croatia which was not covered by my pass. It cost an extra $50 for first class. No big deal. We had a stop in Slovenia then a stop in Croatia which has something to do with this forum. The conductor was obviously a holdover from the communist regime. He was completely enamored with his former minor position of power. He gave almost everyone an excessively hard time. A Hungarian couple with 2 small children. He interrogated them as to their purpose for being in Croatia. The train was going to Budapest Hungary! He was especially hostile to an elderly Italian gentleman. The young Croatian woman next to me who could have rivaled a Super Model was passed over. I just realized I slept with a "Super Model"! Of course all we did was sleep. He then came to me, I gave him my U.S. passport. He became nearly apoplectic! "What purpose does an American have to be inside Croatia"!!! Although I had visited Croatia multiple times with no problems I realized it was the proper time to pull my trump card. I produced my Stabilization Force ID card. Talk about a 180 degree change of attitude! "I'm very sorry sir. I did not realize. Please do not report me"! I don't think reporting would have made any difference but in his mind he was still living under socialist control! At that moment I realized the attraction of communism. Former nobodies being given a sliver of power. Quite like Obama's Czars. Of course the 30+ years was not always fun but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
  • DurangoKidDurangoKid Posts: 183 Member
    Australians marched down when ordered and turned there firearms in to be burned. They have set a trend. It is obvious their government has complete control over the citizens.
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    LOL! They just finding that out? It was common knowledge shortly after plastic bottles showed up over here! Politicians, no matter where they hail from, are pretty strange creatures. Whatever you do, Alec, don't EVEN mention PVC pipe! :silly:
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  • DurangoKidDurangoKid Posts: 183 Member
    How many balloons and condoms have been attached to .22 rifle barrels. :fiddle:
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,359 Senior Member
    I tried using a coke bottle as a silencer once...there was broken glass all over the place...
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    BTW, has anyone seen the BATFE definition of a silencer or suppressor ? if you call it a silencer, according to BATFE, it has nothing to do with a specific design, it has to do with intent, the machine gun rules are the same too, intent,
    Even though by itself, a drop in auto sear is useless, it is considered a machine gun by BATFE and will get you convicted and jailed.
    The Silencer rules are so stupid, that even if the device actually makes the report louder, you can still be charged and convicted for possession of a silencer !!!!

    I had a manufacturers FFL, and it blew My mind when BATFE bullied Me into getting a manufacturers license over an ordinary dealers FFL because I told them the following: I was going to buy Mauser 98 rifles and re-barrel them, BATFE said, original caliber 8mm, no problem, not a manufacturer, change calibers and we will prosecute you for illegal manufacture of firearms, unless you get a manufacturers license and charge the appropriate taxes.

    The kick in the head was at the time, the manufacturers FFL was cheaper than a dealers FFL !!!!

    :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

    However, the taxes on the manufactured firearms is really where BATFE rakes in the cash.
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  • shushshush Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    ......... I have almost 4 million 3 liter soda bottles......

    ?
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Somewhat of an exaggeration on his part.....

    I doubt he has that many, at 5 cents each, 4,000,000 bottles is, $ 200,000 U.S. a really nice new home all bought and paid for.
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  • orchidmanorchidman Posts: 8,438 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    Empty soda bottles can be used as silencers! How cool is that. I have almost 4 million 3 liter soda bottles refilled with water in my storage room. Very cool.

    If I have told you once, I have told you 12 million times.............Don't exaggerate!!!
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    My MIL had a cistern under the house that had gotten made into another room in the basement.
    She had it filedl with old milk jugs of water.

    If you had gone though the great depression you saved stuff.
  • PFDPFD Posts: 1,898 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »

    I wonder how a bunch of old ATV tires lined up side-by-side would be classified . . .
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • orchidmanorchidman Posts: 8,438 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    **** sheep humping Aussies aside, I call BS on part of that video!
    They show an "American video" demonstrating the effectiveness of a coke bottle as a silencer. The first shot you hear the supersonic crack. After fitting the bottle, you don't. BS

    Next range trip I will conduct some tests cpj.
    I will take an assortment of plastic bottles and some duct tape ( I think duct tape is mandatory under these circumstances, don't you?) and video the results.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yes, duct tape.
    Oh,and the answer to your question is "whatever's on hand". (Just make sure the port has been emptied)

    Depending on where he empties the port, the video could be very entertaining!
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  • orchidmanorchidman Posts: 8,438 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yes, duct tape.
    Oh,and the answer to your question is "whatever's on hand". (Just make sure the port has been emptied)

    Ok. Have 150+ relatives heading for my place today for a reunion..........It is a weekend long event but after today I might bail and head for the 'bush'. I only like about 3 or 4 out of the whole mob.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • ArtemisArtemis Posts: 124 Member
    sgtrock21 wrote: »
    "Next they'll be banning anyone from having their own thoughts or free will.........."
    That is their fondest dream!

    "When I think back to my childhood and the stuff that I got up to, when that is placed in context of nowadays, I would most likely be labeled mentally unbalanced, dangerous and a serious threat to the community. Probably a good job I joined the army and had those childhood interests purposefully and usefully channeled, and my knowledge expanded."

    Match head bombs. Home made gunpowder. Major fireworks imported from Wyoming during family vacations. Plastic models (including the USS Arizona) blown up. I would now be considered a potential terrorist at the age of 12! I ended up taking your route by joining the Army. 30+ years all Aviation. Although I didn't get to blow things up like the Combat Engineers. I did have some fun with .38 revolvers, .45 and 9mm semi autos, M-16 automatic fire, LAW and M-203, M-60 ground and M-60D aerial gunnery, M-2 .50 Cal., Driving all kinds of vehicles including an M-60 Tank and M-2 Bradley, Plus flying in and flying twin turboprop fully aerobatic high performance airplanes and all kinds of helicopters plus learning many skills. Like a kid in a candy store even though I was 25 to 56 years old! In 2000 I was deployed to the former Yugoslavia (Bosnia) in a MEDEVAC detachment. It was a combat zone conspicuously lacking combat. It was a working vacation with decent quarters and incredible food! I was able to tour the entire area of operation (Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, and Hungary) in our "flying 5 tons" (UH-60 Blackhawks). For my 18 days leave I bought a EURAIL pass for $550 it included first class travel by rail and even covered light rail, subways and trolleys. We were flown free by C-130 to Ramstein Germany AFB and back. I visited Germany, Switzerland, France, Monaco, Northern Italy, Slovenia, Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Czech Republic, and the former East Germany. I planned on visiting Poland but realized it was really big and would cost me 3 days. I was in Trieste Italy wanting to go to Budapest Hungary. I had to cross Croatia which was not covered by my pass. It cost an extra $50 for first class. No big deal. We had a stop in Slovenia then a stop in Croatia which has something to do with this forum. The conductor was obviously a holdover from the communist regime. He was completely enamored with his former minor position of power. He gave almost everyone an excessively hard time. A Hungarian couple with 2 small children. He interrogated them as to their purpose for being in Croatia. The train was going to Budapest Hungary! He was especially hostile to an elderly Italian gentleman. The young Croatian woman next to me who could have rivaled a Super Model was passed over. I just realized I slept with a "Super Model"! Of course all we did was sleep. He then came to me, I gave him my U.S. passport. He became nearly apoplectic! "What purpose does an American have to be inside Croatia"!!! Although I had visited Croatia multiple times with no problems I realized it was the proper time to pull my trump card. I produced my Stabilization Force ID card. Talk about a 180 degree change of attitude! "I'm very sorry sir. I did not realize. Please do not report me"! I don't think reporting would have made any difference but in his mind he was still living under socialist control! At that moment I realized the attraction of communism. Former nobodies being given a sliver of power. Quite like Obama's Czars. Of course the 30+ years was not always fun but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

    Yup! you get the picture:up:

    I was lucky to get to blow stuff up and fill things full of holes on a regular basis, when I'd had my time on the front line I re-trained as an armourer so I could drink more tea, keep warm and moan like f**k about the way the weapons got into such a state at the hands of the front line troops...and I made the most of it!!

    Incidentally, I was deployed to Bosnia in 93' and that definitely was a combat zone then; I was re-deployed again in 95 and my last time was 97-98 (Op Palatine) which was up in Sipovo. As I remember it, it was a six month drinking session and getting fat on excellent food! quarters were pretty good, except my corimec was right between the pack testing area and the helicopter LZ!
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  • orchidmanorchidman Posts: 8,438 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Here's the video they show in your link. I ain't buying it was the same ammo as when he shot it without the bottle.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ii2qlRx_bRc

    I agree, I watched the vid and the fact that the rifle didnt cycle with the second mag loads indicates it was subsonic loaded stuff.................he had to keep cycling the rifle by hand.

    When I go to the range, I will take my SKS and standard factory ammo as well as the .22 rifle and video the results.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
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