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.44 Rem Mag - Why 2 diameters?

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 26,496 Senior Member
Why are there two diameter bullets listed?

.429
.430

Are they for specific guns? Or, will both work in all guns chambered for .44 Rem Mag?
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,496 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Jacketed? Or cast lead?

    All Hornady jacketed bullets are .430 in diameter. Sierra makes .429 diameter jacketed bullets.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&dimensionids=4294846306&dimensionids=4294846310&newcategorydimensionid=20523&searchscope=all
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,023 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Why are there two diameter bullets listed?

    .429
    .430

    Are they for specific guns? Or, will both work in all guns chambered for .44 Rem Mag?

    I looked around on the web, I think either one is ok
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Won't make any difference which one you use.
    And I gotta say it. "How soon we forget." Didn't we just finish shoving .358 bullets down a .357 barrel in the not too distant past? :tooth:
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    P.O. Ackley intentionally fired some .323 bullets through a .308 barrel to bust the myth that 8MM Mauser ammo fired in an 03 Springfield would blow it up. (Yes, an 8X57 round will chamber in most .30-06 guns- - - -the case is just short enough to let the bolt close!) He found that if the chamber was loose enough to let the case expand and release its hold on the bullet, the only bad effect was a hellaceous amount of recoil.
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    I saw a 8x57 that had been unintentionally fired in a 30-06. It didn't blow it up, but it ruined the rifle. Broken stock at the action and forend. Maybe PO could get by it, but the guy with the 30-06 didn't. He wasn't injured but the rifle was scrap.
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  • JLDickmonJLDickmon Senior Member Posts: 1,726 Senior Member
    "TECHNICALLY" it's .4295 so............

    what?
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,890 Senior Member
    YUM! Canned worms, freshly opened!:tooth:

    Figure on your actual bore to be somewhere around .429" - .4295". .429-.430 jacketed bullets will be just fine.

    With cast lead, we measure the pass-through diameter of the cylinder throats with pin gauges and size the bullets for that. Between Pops and I, the three Rugers after a bit of fire-lapping to achieve consistency, are all getting .432" bullets for their .429-.4295 bores. The S&W Mountain Gun has .428" throats - clearly geared for jacketed - not sure what its ultimate solution will be.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    YUM! Canned worms, freshly opened!:tooth:

    Figure on your actual bore to be somewhere around .429" - .4295". .429-.430 jacketed bullets will be just fine.

    With cast lead, we measure the pass-through diameter of the cylinder throats with pin gauges and size the bullets for that. Between Pops and I, the three Rugers after a bit of fire-lapping to achieve consistency, are all getting .432" bullets for their .429-.4295 bores. The S&W Mountain Gun has .428" throats - clearly geared for jacketed - not sure what its ultimate solution will be.

    You hit the nail on the head again Bigslug.

    They used to sell a lot of hard cast bullets with different diameters for the same nominal caliber. Especially in .45 Colt and .44s. Some older Colts and Rugers ran different than others and you could go up or down a tad to match what you needed for your gun make or particular gun.

    Some cast bullet makers still offer some options.

    I've seen .303/7.7 **** bullets (jacketed) in .310/.311/.3105 and even .312.
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  • DurwoodDurwood Senior Member Posts: 971 Senior Member
    Sierra used to mark their boxes .4295 diameter...and I have that still is??? Maybe they still do...
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  • shootershooter Senior Member Posts: 1,186 Senior Member
    Durwood wrote: »
    Sierra used to mark their boxes .4295 diameter...and I have that still is??? Maybe they still do...

    They still do. Here's one example.

    https://www.sierrabullets.com/store/product.cfm/sn/8610/4295-dia-44-cal-240-gr-JHC
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  • sarg1csarg1c Senior Member Posts: 1,707 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Won't make any difference which one you use.
    And I gotta say it. "How soon we forget." Didn't we just finish shoving .358 bullets down a .357 barrel in the not too distant past? :tooth:

    Don't know about that, but put a lot of .357's down a .358 barrel.(.35 Rem.)
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