Would you open carry a sidearm if it were legal?

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  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 710 Senior Member
    Pistols are tightly controlled here, but if it were legal to carry openly, I probably would occasionally, mostly on my way to or from hunting.
    I used to work in forestry by myself a lot of the time in very isolated areas and I have to say, I would have definitely openly carried, lots of problems with treaspassers, poachers and dope growers combined with long hours and having to get out and unlock heaps of padlocked gates in the dark, would have been handy.

    Day to day in town, no, mostly not, when I was farming and we went to town in work clothes we'd just pull our belt knives out and walk round with empty sheathes, or we'd be bundled up enough that it didn't matter, don't think anyone really cared either way, probably would be the same with pistols eventually once people got used to it,
    Alas, all hypotheticals for me,

    Waipapa
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,211 Senior Member
    I have done it in the past. It was when I was working in Detroit and didn't have my CPL yet. I didn't need one to open carry, and I preferred to be armed than not armed so I carried openly. I have a CPL now, so I am a bit more discreet than before.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,651 Senior Member
    No.

    I'm for open carry, but my half-azzed self defense strategy includes cringing and whimpering and hiding behind my wife until I can get my gun drawn. Open-carry would take that away from me and leave me with nothing but my fast draw. I used to beat Matt Dillon when I was a kid, but without the music to tip me off, I might not be fast enough to beat a revved up speed-freak.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    No.

    I'm for open carry, but my half-azzed self defense strategy includes cringing and whimpering and hiding behind my wife until I can get my gun drawn. Open-carry would take that away from me and leave me with nothing but my fast draw. I used to beat Matt Dillon when I was a kid, but without the music to tip me off, I might not be fast enough to beat a revved up speed-freak.

    We've discussed actual situational behavior and gun techniques in other threads, but in my experience (having had a few actual, real life events where I drew my pistol) these things occur in stages mostly. That is, you're maybe pumping gas and you see a weird guy approaching, you draw your gun and keep it alongside your leg, and seeing that the guy usually decides he's got an important dental appointment to keep and heads away. Similar to that. And yes I know it DOES occur when the bad guys rush in fast. Situational awareness is maximum always.

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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,231 Senior Member
    My first instinct at an armed threat is to lose control of my bladder and scream like a woman.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    My first instinct at an armed threat is to lose control of my bladder and scream like a woman.

    Some guys here swear that this tactic works. I won't however disclose who.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • gaimangaiman Banned Posts: 60 Member
    I've pointed a gun at guys (1 at a time) several times in my life, and I let my gun "show" another time or 2. I've also stopped dog attacks. I know of a case wherein a cow killed a woman and another case wherein a bull would have killed a guy, but his wife drilled in in the forehead with a .22 woodsman. That stunned it enough to let the guy escape from the headbutting with just some broken ribs. The Angus had him down on the ground inside of a small pen, with wooden bars that he was able to roll under. It aint always about other men.
  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Would you open carry a sidearm if it were legal?

    It is, and no.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,611 Senior Member
    gaiman wrote: »
    I've pointed a gun at guys (1 at a time) several times in my life, and I let my gun "show" another time or 2. I've also stopped dog attacks.

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  • KENFU1911KENFU1911 Senior Member Posts: 1,052 Senior Member
    Yes I would..and do......I live outside a very small town....near one of the biggest cattle ranches in the State.....open carry is common.......so if I run into town for a load of water.....or hardware...or a DVD at the library....or maybe a taco at the Snowcap...........I don't bother with concealed in warm weather......never had even a slight problem....even the tourist from all over the World don't freak out....some just figure that's the way the West still is.....or say things like."I wish we could have stuff like that back home"..............but when I go to the big City....Flagstaff.....Prescott.........I take the time to go concealed........way to many strange Humans in cities for me to open carry.......Ken
    My idea of a warning shot is when the 2nd bad guy watches his 1st buddy go down....
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,660 Senior Member
    There was this one time at band camp.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • KENFU1911KENFU1911 Senior Member Posts: 1,052 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    There was this one time at band camp.

    With a Python????
    My idea of a warning shot is when the 2nd bad guy watches his 1st buddy go down....
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,104 Senior Member
    gaiman wrote: »
    I've pointed a gun at guys (1 at a time) several times in my life, and I let my gun "show" another time or 2. I've also stopped dog attacks. I know of a case wherein a cow killed a woman and another case wherein a bull would have killed a guy, but his wife drilled in in the forehead with a .22 woodsman. That stunned it enough to let the guy escape from the headbutting with just some broken ribs. The Angus had him down on the ground inside of a small pen, with wooden bars that he was able to roll under. It aint always about other men.

    Bragging is the worst thing here.

    Those of us who've been there and done more don't brag.

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  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    It's legal here is Wa state, but I don't.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    awesome

    Funny, gaiman, that lots of people here talk about how they carry concealed or open carry and have plenty of guns of all sorts, but the MOMENT that someone actually DOES "present" or otherwise display a weapon for genuine self defense, that person is ridiculed as a braggart.

    Hint to Zee: I didn't see anything that gaiman said that was bragging or otherwise touting himself. He simply stated a fact (I'm accepting that he didn't make up this statement) but said ZERO that could be construed as self-aggrandizement. He simply said that he's pointed a gun on occasion. He didn't even talk about the incident(s). He then related somewhat funny (not funny to the person involved of course) about a bull attacking, but he didn't say that he was involved.

    Hint to Zee: Lots of people in this forum have clearly stated that they go around armed (some even say they wear a holstered firearm while walking around in their own homes) and it's accepted as perfectly okay. I don't remember your posting "borrowed" signs (not even taking the time to make your own keen poster) making light of these folks who carry concealed or carry open. So why do this when a 2A-believing armed guy actually decides to draw and maybe even point the gun? Carrying a weapon = good, drawing that weapon = not good? Duh.

    Now if he'd bragged about how brave he was or how keen he behaved, sure, tease him. But he simply stated the act and didn't embellish. So wherein was his error? How did he step over the line and deserve ridicule?

    Please explain.

    And yes, in the interest of full disclosure, I have also drawn & "presented" (aimed at) people several times in my life as well. But I was doing this with zero interest in being keen or cool or "deck" (the hipster version of cool). I did this because I was in a genuine self defense situation. Should anyone wish me to discuss these incidents, I'd be happy to detail the situations and be open to criticism should the actions I took seem to have been wrong. I'm always happy to learn from my mistakes.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,611 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Please explain.

    It's all in the presentation, Sam. The vast majority or...........a goodly portion of this gentleman's posts have been of his grandiose accomplishments and abilities he has. He set the pattern. I just followed along. Gotta look at the big picture..........Sam.

    Oh, you're awesome too...........Sam. Keen?

    :smooch:
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,554 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    Everything is legal in Arizona. Thank God. No gun bans, no magazine capacity limits, no permit needed for open or concealed carry. No restrictions on what can be shipped. Here in Tucson, despite the hoplophobia of the far-left SanFran - style city government, we host a major gun show about every month or so, sometimes two.

    That said, I reserve open carry strictly for the wilderness (we call it a 'desert'), up in the mountains, or around my own yard. Those handguns are generally heavy, all steel, large caliber revolvers, with longish barrels, often in full-flap military-style holsters, and unsuitable for convenient concealed carry. I never carry open in developed, urban, commercial environments. And I would no sooner take a long gun into a restaurant than I would a spare tire, a fire extinguisher, a drill press, an ironing board, a lawn mower, a vacuum cleaner, or a printer/copier. Some things are simply out of place, regardless of the legality of owning them.

    That is by far your best post yet....... and :agree:
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,660 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    And yes, in the interest of full disclosure, I have also drawn & "presented" (aimed at) people several times in my life as well.

    You have told us several times, 6 I believe.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,844 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    You have told us several times, 42 I believe.
    FIFY :tooth:
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  • KENFU1911KENFU1911 Senior Member Posts: 1,052 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    It's all in the presentation, Sam. The vast majority or...........a goodly portion of this gentleman's posts have been of his grandiose accomplishments and abilities he has. He set the pattern.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE6iAjEv9dQ



    I work down at the pizza pit
    And I drive an old Hyundai
    I still live with my mom and dad
    I'm 5'3 and overweight

    I'm a Sci-Fi fanatic
    Mild asthmatic
    Never been to 2nd base
    But there's a whole nother me
    That you need to see
    Go check out MySpace

    'cause online I'm out in Hollywood
    I'm 6'5 and I look damn good
    I drive a Maserati
    I'm a black belt in Karate
    And I love a good glass of wine
    My idea of a warning shot is when the 2nd bad guy watches his 1st buddy go down....
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,545 Senior Member
    No.

    It is legal here, and I don't do it.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,689 Senior Member
    I prefer concealed and mostly carry in a super tuck holster and wear a cover shirt however most of the time while driving I'll take the cover shirt off and put it back on when I leave the truck.
    Now if I stop for gas I won't bother with the cover shirt as I am standing between the pump and the truck,but if I go into the station's store I put the shirt on.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    gator wrote: »
    I prefer concealed and mostly carry in a super tuck holster and wear a cover shirt however most of the time while driving I'll take the cover shirt off and put it back on when I leave the truck.
    Now if I stop for gas I won't bother with the cover shirt as I am standing between the pump and the truck,but if I go into the station's store I put the shirt on.

    Now ya see? Makes perfect sense! Of course not having twin ARs strapped crossways over your shoulders can get you fired from the local mall ninja guild.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    It's all in the presentation, Sam. The vast majority or...........a goodly portion of this gentleman's posts have been of his grandiose accomplishments and abilities he has. He set the pattern. I just followed along. Gotta look at the big picture..........Sam.

    Oh, you're awesome too...........Sam. Keen?

    :smooch:

    No, I don't have to look at the big picture. I was just referring to gaiman's post above. I'm well aware that he's done more than his share of goofy posts and I just challenged one of them in another thread. But his single post you sniped at was neutral.

    And no, I'm not awesome either. But I do have a couple of catamite positions open and applications are welcomed.

    But seriously, why snipe at someone who's ACTUALLY had a real life self defense situation? People gush all over someone who's got 142 firearms ready to defend the north forty but if someone draws and "presents" the weapon, he's suddenly branded as some puffmeister. Makes zero sense. But making sense isn't the object -- posting idiotic images that the poster didn't even have the temerity to create himself is the comeback of elegance. Duh.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    You have told us several times, 6 I believe.

    Thanks for the reminder!

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    KENFU1911 wrote: »

    I work down at the pizza pit
    And I drive an old Hyundai
    I still live with my mom and dad
    I'm 5'3 and overweight
    etc

    That's funny! Is this a song you've written, a kind of spoof pop song? Because you might consider trying to sell it or something, honest. You'd be surprised at the types of things these days that make money.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Oh he'll I'll chime in. I would open carry if I lived in a place/time where it was not only legal but common to do so. I would love to go walk around with a nicely tooled leather rig and a fancy handgun hanging from it. It actually would be nice to not have to dress for a gun for a change.

    Man, I hadn't thought of all that but I heartily concur.
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,277 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Oh he'll I'll chime in. I would open carry if I lived in a place/time where it was not only legal but common to do so. I would love to go walk around with a nicely tooled leather rig and a fancy handgun hanging from it. It actually would be nice to not have to dress for a gun for a change.

    You could have your holster match your socks, I'm sure someone makes holsters with cassette designs.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    That's funny! Is this a song you've written, a kind of spoof pop song? Because you might consider trying to sell it or something, honest. You'd be surprised at the types of things these days that make money.

    It's a Brad Paisley song...I'm So Much Cooler On-Line

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE6iAjEv9dQ
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,611 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    No, I don't have to look at the big picture. I was just referring to gaiman's post above. I'm well aware that he's done more than his share of goofy posts and I just challenged one of them in another thread. But his single post you sniped at was neutral.

    And no, I'm not awesome either. But I do have a couple of catamite positions open and applications are welcomed.

    But seriously, why snipe at someone who's ACTUALLY had a real life self defense situation? People gush all over someone who's got 142 firearms ready to defend the north forty but if someone draws and "presents" the weapon, he's suddenly branded as some puffmeister. Makes zero sense. But making sense isn't the object -- posting idiotic images that the poster didn't even have the temerity to create himself is the comeback of elegance. Duh.

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