Opinons about this incident?

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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,551 Senior Member
    The only account of the incident is from the shooter. He very well may have had sufficient grounds for retrieving his weapon, but we have only his words to suggest that. If the 'shootee' really did brandish a weapon first, his correct action would have been to retreat with all of the 'innocent' parties to a safe location and only fire if the guy pursued. I can identify nothing in this account of the events that would justify his pursuing the shootee as he was retreating.

    More than likely, they both behaved stupidly and there is a good chance that neither is competent to be trusted with firearms. I'm inclined to think that there is much more to this story. I would like to hear what the girls who were being photographed had to say.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    It then becomes a gut check.

    Just a few months ago some loser teen was talking to her other loser friend on a nextel for all to hear at a local bookstore. She was going isle to isle with volume cranked high as it would go. Customers were sighing, head shaking and so on ...in other words, no one had any balls to tell her to turn it off. This white trash loser, who will soon be on welfare raising eight kids, was obviously enjoying the scene she was creating. When she came to the isle I was on I told her to turn it off. She told me to do something that was anatomically impossible and continued on. I then grabbed it from her hand the whole time she's tellling she's "getting her boyfriend" ...then, when that didn't work, she's going to "call the police" blah blah blah. Upon reaching the front entrance I threw the smart phone in a nearby trash can. (I wanted to smash it) Never saw her again. I do remember the shock on her face when she realized that some play hardball. Sometimes one reaches a point where ya just don't give a sheet. I have no patience for punk kids.

    I approve this message.

    I was at a movie a few months ago (rare because $50 for popcorn is robbery) and a "gentleman" (in his 30s) was yacking it up on his cell phone, during the movie, not the previews.

    Everyone within earshot was sighing and groaning--all sorts of minimally confrontational passive aggressive bleating. I leaned forward and addressed his woman, "Ma'am, would you please take your loud-a** child outside if he wants to talk to his little man friends on the phone?"

    She was utterly embarrassed and slapped her man and told him to get off the phone. He dozed off a few minutes later. Thankfully he wasn't a snorer.

    Not everything is a police matter.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    I then grabbed it from her hand the whole time she's tellling she's "getting her boyfriend" ...then, when that didn't work, she's going to "call the police" blah blah blah.

    In the opinion of this lowly apartment dweller, and without first clearing the post with my erstwhile personalized censorship board, I would say that you stepped over the line. You had zero right to physically contact this gal or to take her phone from her.

    If you were offended you should have complained to the management or simply left. But you are not authorized (nor am I) to take physical action against another person unless you're being attacked or threatened, neither of which seems to be true.

    You risked assault charges plus theft charges when you took the phone.

    And it's "aisle".

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I leaned forward and addressed his woman, "Ma'am, would you please take your loud-a** child outside if he wants to talk to his little man friends on the phone?"

    But Jason, what you did was verbal and didn't involve your physically taking the phone from the person. You simply spoke to the couple (sarcastic yes but just spoke). That's not stepping over the line and taking the "law" into your own hands. Pel physically took the phone from the girl (risking assault charges) and took it from her (robbery, maybe aggravated robbery)**

    ** The girl COULD have called the cops and said he assaulted her and stole her phone. He'd have had no recourse and would have likely been arrested. (He was in California, don't forget, where any physical action is usually illegal).

    You on the other had just spoke and therefore what you did was not the same.

    When people talk on phones in movies (or at the opera) I'll holler at them and then get an usher. If you get an usher they usually will toss the person out.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,350 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I approve this message.


    Yeah, but you're a JBT. :tooth: Sorry dude, I simply could not resist! :roll2:
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,980 Senior Member
    Any updates on this incident? Charges?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,257 Senior Member
    Hmmmmm- - - - - -it seems Huntsville has more than its share of butt-shooters! A couple of months ago an off-duty Decatur deputy tried to arrest a man in a WalMart store and ended up shooting him in the behind. Attempting an arrest 40 miles out of his jurisdiction got the cop fired!
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
    I'm not commenting on this. There is no telling where the truth lies, and only a thorough investigation could even remotely bring it to light. For one thing, it's reported by a segment of the news media and you know what that is like. I don't even take a paper anymore because I got so tired of their Biased BS. Any version of a story given by the media involving firearms is suspect to me due to most newsies left handed leanings. And as far as the participants or rather suspects go, it's one party's word against the other. Most of the time the truth can be deduced by thorough questioning of all parties involved, any and all witnesses that can be found (There's more times than not somebody that neither party observed on the fringes who witnesses part if not all of an altercation) and a good analysis of all the data by an experienced team of investigators. And it doesn't appear that any of this has happened yet. Up to now it's all hearsay.

    Otherwise, I'm gonna have to agree with Buffy's stand on this,

    "I need to see pictures of the bikini clad girls in order to make a proper assessment."

    :yikes: :cool2: :rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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