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SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
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My 4 month old Dell has had 3 chances with Dell's "customer disappointment" department. Then I remembered I bought one if those worthless warranty things with it. Called them up and they said for the quickest repair drop it off somewhere local like geek squad, pay out of pocket, and they would reimburse me. Cool says I.

Just got my Dell back (again) from Geek Squad, they said the mother board was no good. They actually found problems with it that I forgot about it having because the other problems were more aggravating.

So long story short, I send it in for the aftermarket techs to look at and when they deem it unfixable, I get a check for 1100 bucks. My question is what Mack book should I buy? I know absolutely nothing about Mac other than what I used 12 years ago. I do a lot of photo editing, so I need something with some power. And am used to a 17" screen. I have never owned a desktop and don't intend on it anytime soon. On the go too much for that.

What say you guys with macs? Any thing to look for, avoid, ect?
Thanks!
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  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,279 Senior Member
    I'm a Mac user, but only desktops - so I'm not much help here. I detest Apple's recent keyboards (that everyone now seems to be copying).
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Posts: 6,112 Senior Member
    I am going to buy a 13" MacBook Pro with Retina display in the next 6 months. At ~$1300 that's my suggestion. I never should have switched to Windows, I hate 8.1.


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    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,279 Senior Member
    ...I never should have switched to Windows, I hate 8.1.
    Who doesn't? Download and install a freebie called "Classic Shell" - it fixes what ails 8.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Just remember, if you love gaming, Mac isn't supported by most games. I don't came so I don't care...but you firemen have a lot of time on your hands.

    Also, if you have anyone in your family who is a federal government worker or currently in the military, they can download Windows for Mac for about 10 dollars!

    My Macbook is about 5 years old and it's starting to boot up a little slower than when it was new, but it has three people's worth of crap on it.

    I'll never go back.

    Dan
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Who doesn't? Download and install a freebie called "Classic Shell" - it fixes what ails 8.
    No it doesn't. It is a bandaid at best. What would fix Windows 8 would be to take the lead designer for that train wreck and push him down a big flight of stairs.

    OK that isn't a true fix, but it would make me feel a little better.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    I am going to buy a 13" MacBook Pro with Retina display in the next 6 months. At ~$1300 that's my suggestion. I never should have switched to Windows, I hate 8.1.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    That is a sweet deal. Really hoping to get away from the 13" screen though. Not an easy thing editing photos on what feels like a netbook.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Just remember, if you love gaming, Mac isn't supported by most games. I don't came so I don't care...but you firemen have a lot of time on your hands.

    Also, if you have anyone in your family who is a federal government worker or currently in the military, they can download Windows for Mac for about 10 dollars!

    My Macbook is about 5 years old and it's starting to boot up a little slower than when it was new, but it has three people's worth of crap on it.

    I'll never go back.

    Dan
    I don't game, and if I do it is a free online flash game.
    And I am a federal employee. But I don't know if I would even want to put Windows on there. Especially if it's Windows 8.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    MacBook Pro 17" retina display. It will ROCK YOUR WORLD!!!!
    Are those still made?
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Once you go Apple, you will never go back. I have been using Apple computers since 1989. Apple computers are better made and will last longer and have less issues with viruses and other crap. The OS is easy to get used to. There are a couple of programs you can buy that will keep your hard drive from getting fragmented and crashing. If you do a regular maintenance routine, you will almost NEVER have problems. For the last 5 years I have been buying used Apple systems because of the cost...the desktop models and laptops and have had almost no issues. The only limitation with used is that they don't work with the current OS versions, but if you don't mind that, they are fine. New will be outstanding. I have a 5 year old Powerbook Pro with 17" monitor and it has been terrific. Go Apple, you won't be disappointed! If you buy one, I'll tell you which maintenance programs to buy. There are 2 good ones you can't go wrong with. With proper maintenance, they will run for YEARS, unless a mechanical or electronic issue develops, but that almost never happens until they get old.

    You can run windows on a Mac, if you really want to.

    I have reliable sources for used models, if you're interested.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Just pulled the plug. The price tag stung, but I don't plan on buying another computer anytime soon. Went with the one right under the flagship model, 15" Retina display with 8gb of ram.
    Audios Windows!
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,103 Senior Member
    I don't game, and if I do it is a free online flash game.
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    Meh.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,279 Senior Member
    Nuts - I'm equally irritated with both Apple AND Microsoft.

    I originally switched to Apple because they're Unix based, and I do a fair amount of "raw" Unix stuff, and was tired of self-supporting various flavors of Linux. But Apple keeps making bone headed decisions that would get them laughed out of business if they were ANY other company - but because they're Apple, its a Good Thing (tm). Their twice a year (mild exaggeration) OS upgrades break "everything", yet if you don't upgrade "soon", all support is dropped. Apple drops all support for anything older than about 6 months. Gak!

    So, I had an aging iMac a couple of years ago that was dying, and I needed a new system. Because of all this continuing Apple stupidity, I was seriously thinking about going to a windows box (now that windows and Apple both share the same crappy hardware anyway) and either running windows 7 with Cygwin, or 7 dual boot with Linux...

    Then Microsoft came out with Windows 8. I bought a Mac mini...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    OK, where are the darn mouse buttons?:punch:
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,279 Senior Member
    OK, where are the darn mouse buttons?:punch:
    Yea, that was one of them. Jobs and his one button mouse religion...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Posts: 6,112 Senior Member
    Good choice. I would still be using my 2009 MacBook Pro had I not spilled liquid and killed it.
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • Gene LGene L Posts: 12,815 Senior Member
    I bought my daughter an Ipod a couple of years ago for Christmas. She loves it. Recently my computer died and I replaced it with an ASUS laptop for about $275 or so. No disc drive. It's got Windows 8 on it, and while it does take a little getting used to, after you get it, it's not bad at all.

    Macs have less (or no) viruses because hackers don't bother writing viruses for them.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,103 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Like hell. At least on my iPad and iphone.
    What am I missing?
    I think Flash works on the laptop and desktop OS, but not on the iPad and iPhones.

    Not sure about if it works on the iPoop....
    Meh.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,279 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I jump on every upgrade as soon as it comes out. Have yet to have anything break...
    Everytime I upgrade the OS, its a major, and I mean MAJOR pain in the arse. Most of my third party stuff breaks - sometimes permanently. I fail to see how anyone writes code this way, but Apple does. It gets tiresome. The one thing I'll say for Windows is that this problem is far less prevalent. That doesn't mean its zero, it means that its far less. I'm running software that was written in the late 1970s on a modern windows system - good luck running anything more than about 2 years old on a Mac.

    I miss CP/M...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member

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    I'm not drunk on the coolaid yet. But there is something about a computer that goes back to its maker 3 times, then goes to Geek Squad 2 times only to be not able to be fixed. I am still very in love with my Note 3, and doubt I'll be buying the Apple TV, router, or toilet seat.

    This computer on the other hand is freaking awesome.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    I don't game, and if I do it is a free online flash game.
    And I am a federal employee. But I don't know if I would even want to put Windows on there. Especially if it's Windows 8.

    I meant "word" for mac. Not "Windows"

    If you like word, you can get it for MAC. Use it extensively. No bugs.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member

    ......My Macbook is about 5 years old and it's starting to boot up a little slower than when it was new, but it has three people's worth of crap on it.

    Try Techtool Pro or Drive Genius. They both solve problems. Techtool Pro is a better program, but Drive Genius is faster but more limited in scope of repair. Both programs need to be started on an alternate startup drive or partition to work properly. Techtool Pro will create a partition and you won't need a second drive, but Drive Genius needs an alternate drive that has an OS installed.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    One finger tap = left button. Two finger tap = right button. After a while it will become a LOT more natural than the stupid buttons.
    You can use a mouse or a trackball on a Macbook. Just plug it into the USB port.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Try Techtool Pro or Drive Genius. They both solve problems. Techtool Pro is a better program, but Drive Genius is faster but more limited in scope of repair. Both programs need to be started on an alternate startup drive or partition to work properly. Techtool Pro will create a partition and you won't need a second drive, but Drive Genius needs an alternate drive that has an OS installed.

    I appreciate the advice, but I don't want to spend $400 on Rosetta Stone to understand a thing you just wrote.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • BigDanSBigDanS Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    FWIW, both MAC and Windoze machines now use the same underlying hardware. In years past the Mac was on its own OS and used Motorola processors. Now the MAC is Unix / Linux based with the Apple shell on top of it. The guts are standard PC hardware and processors except for their BIOS, and of course their case, specified power supply, keyboards and displays.

    Apple sells hardware, but they really are a software company. Their software control is tight and they require their suppliers to "get approval" prior to publishing them. That's the reason Apple's products work better than MS products. MS has an open standard, and Apple, does not.

    Really what you are buying today is a software interface to the hardware.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • BuffcoBuffco Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
    Apple devices are for people who can only learn to use one button.
  • centermass556centermass556 Posts: 3,618 Senior Member
    Switched to an apple house back around 2010. I have never looked back. The Microsoft office for Mac even performs better than Microsoft office for windows...But that is the extent of Microsoft stuff I use anymore..oops I lied, I still own a Xbox, it seems to be the only thing Bill has gotten correct. Any Governement stuff gets done when I am in the office, or it doesnt get done until I am back in the office again.

    iOS doesn't support flash. OS does.

    One great thing about having Apple through out the house is Apple is designed to talk to apple by default. Networking the devices throughout the house is so painless. Especially with Airdrop.
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    I appreciate the advice, but I don't want to spend $400 on Rosetta Stone to understand a thing you just wrote.
    If you're actually interested in learning something I'll try and explain it in a private message, but if you're not interested in using programs that are beneficial to the long term health of an Apple computer, then I would rather not spend the time. You have to be somewhat computer-tech savvy to do what I was talking about. The average apple or PC user is not. I have owned a couple of Apple computers that lasted 10 years, and using the above described software was one of the things that kept my computers worth keeping for so long. Of course when they were older than 4 or 5 years, they became outdated processor speed and operating system-wise, but they were functional.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Apple devices are for people who can only learn to use one button.

    PC's are for people who enjoy pulling their hair out from frustration, then throw the damn thing out after 2 or 3 years.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    "Alternate startup drive...partition..." Do you know how stupid I am? I suppose you'll tell me it's a good idea to back up all my photos and stuff too. Hell, I reload on a single stage press!
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • ilove22silove22s Posts: 1,539 Senior Member
    Sorry, but i don't do laptops. No need for them.

    but i just treated myself to my first new mac - an 27" iMac. Its maxed to the hilt.

    Whatever you do, all i can say is to get a SSD and a big one if you can afford one.

    A friend at work has faster internet connection so i had I'm reconfigure my SSD for a dual boot. I have some Solid Modeling software that i wanted to use in Bloatware Windows.
    But my mac boots in about 4~6 SECONDS flat. that includes windows too. I won't go back to a mechanical drive now, its only used for backups.

    Also, if you have any peripherals that connect via USB, i would think about upgrading them too. USB 3 is sooooo sweet and fast too. If you use them a lot, it could be worth it - time wise.

    just a comment. I was using, up to a few months ago, a Mac Pro tower "quick silver" G4/1.25 ghz mac tower. This has the Motorola processor. I bought it 2nd hand. Originally it was used in one of our high schools and some guy bought a truck load of them. i got it from him. These were discontinued in 1999 so you can't say they don't work or last. I only got rid of it since none of the OS was being supported anymore and that included browsers.

    good luck in whatever you choose.
    The ears never lie.

    - Don Burt
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