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Gene LGene L Senior MemberPosts: 12,392 Senior Member
I noticed on this thread that a lot of you carry a heavy handgun while hunting. I found myself wondering why, since you've already got a primary more powerful rifle.

Any insight on this? I've never done this back in the day when I was hunting, I had enough junk to carry up a tree...gun, pack, sandwich, thermos, portable TV, Ipad, Port-a-Potty, miracle ear, mineature stereo, hammock. Don't need the extra four pounds of a loaded handgun.
Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,395 Senior Member
    For me, it's because I want to kill a deer with said handgun but want the reach afforded by the rifle or SP in case the deer don't come within my comfortable range of said handgun.
    Plus, I mainly hunt over food plots from shooting houses aka box blinds, so I have the room for them, All I carry normally is rifle, pistol, cellphone, tablet and a light.

    If I'm feeling realy froggy, I'll pack my Nikon and tripod in with me to shoot video of the shot and stills of game if I have the time.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I noticed on this thread that a lot of you carry a heavy handgun while hunting. I found myself wondering why, since you've already got a primary more powerful rifle.

    Any insight on this? I've never done this back in the day when I was hunting, I had enough junk to carry up a tree...gun, pack, sandwich, thermos, portable TV, Ipad, Port-a-Potty, miracle ear, mineature stereo, hammock. Don't need the extra four pounds of a loaded handgun.

    If you're in an area where there is potentially dangerous game, such as lots of hogs, a .357 or 44 mag gives you a little comfort factor. It's backup protection In case your rifle craps out or jams and you are being attacked by hogs or worse. Yeah it's rare it happens, but if it does, that hand gun is worth its wait in gold.
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  • USUFBUSUFB Senior Member Posts: 830 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    For me, it's because I want to kill a deer with said handgun but want the reach afforded by the rifle or SP in case the deer don't come within my comfortable range of said handgun.
    Plus, I mainly hunt over food plots from shooting houses aka box blinds, so I have the room for them, All I carry normally is rifle, pistol, cellphone, tablet and a light.

    This.
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,536 Senior Member
    For me, if I can't kill it with my rifle, all the handgun's going to do is slow me down while I'm running away screaming like a little girl.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,088 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    For me, if I can't kill it with my rifle, all the handgun's going to do is slow me down while I'm running away screaming like a little girl.

    Mike

    There is a dead snake somewhere that's proof of this.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,088 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    For me, it's because I want to kill a deer with said handgun but want the reach afforded by the rifle or SP in case the deer don't come within my comfortable range of said handgun.

    This.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,088 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    If you're in an area where there is potentially dangerous game, such as lots of hogs, a .357 or 44 mag gives you a little comfort factor. It's backup protection In case your rifle craps out or jams and you are being attacked by hogs or worse. Yeah it's rare it happens, but if it does, that hand gun is worth its wait in gold.

    I just laughed my butt off. Well, I rolled my eyes first. Then laughed.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    I have had deer come out at 3-5 yards and disappear again before I had a chance to shoulder my rifle. I carry a handgun for quick short shots like that.
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    -Thomas Paine
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,392 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    If you're in an area where there is potentially dangerous game, such as lots of hogs, a .357 or 44 mag gives you a little comfort factor. It's backup protection In case your rifle craps out or jams and you are being attacked by hogs or worse. Yeah it's rare it happens, but if it does, that hand gun is worth its wait in gold.

    By the time you're attacked, have a failure to fire, realize this, drop your weapon and draw your pistol, you'll be et. Unless you're attacked by a sloth.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,395 Senior Member
    Today, I showed Eli where the deer that stood around "laughing" at me was standing when I had the misfire with my ML last season. Couldn't have legally used a handgun on it, even if I'd had one with me, but Eli agreed, that a deer at that distance (Well under 30 feet) would be a "chipshot" with one of my hunting handguns or even my "field carry" handguns (4" 357, 10mm 1911)
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  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,009 Senior Member
    The only time I carry a hand gun is if I'm hunting in an area that has a lot of grizz, usually Alaska.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,803 Senior Member
    Usually, it's a light .357 for the possibility of finishing off the cripples or close encounters with mountain lions. My attitude is pretty much in line with yours - if the .30-06 can't do it, the heavy .44 won't help much.

    This year however, I am conflicted. First off, I WANT to kill something with my self-cast .44 loads. Second, at least once per season, I've had sudden, short-range sightings while walking along in crappy dawn/dusk light conditions where the scope has proven a little problematic - to say nothing of deploying the rifle off the sling in the first place.

    I'm 25% for the last four years of hard hunting - desperation has me contemplating funny things.:silly:
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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    In this neck of the woods, there is a real chance of encounters with lions, grizzlies, wolves, and sometimes aggresive black bears. Carrying the 629 while bow hunting is very comforting. I also always carry it when hunting grouse.

    I just got back from huckleberry picking, and I was carrying the 629. I guess I'm just in the habit of carrying a large sidearm while in the woods. The old "rather have it and not need it..."

    The only exception I can think of is while in the tree stand on my own property.
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,536 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I have had deer come out at 3-5 yards and disappear again before I had a chance to shoulder my rifle. I carry a handgun for quick short shots like that.

    You can draw, aim, and accurately fire a handgun that's holstered quicker than you can shoulder and accurately fire a rifle that's already in your hands?

    Granted, I have a lot to learn. A whole lot, obviously.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,536 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    There is a dead snake somewhere that's proof of this.

    Yes, but what you failed to mention is that the snake died via JerryBobCo's pocket knife, not my pistol fire.

    And, I didn't run away from that particular snake. Just some others.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    You can draw, aim, and accurately fire 3 out of 5 shots from a handgun that's sitting in your lap quicker than you can shoulder and find the damn thing in your scope, and accurately fire a muzzle loader that's already in your hands at a running deer at 7 yards?

    Granted, I have a lot to learn. A whole lot, obviously.

    Mike
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,536 Senior Member
    Well.....okay......maybe even I could do that.

    OTOH....naw.........I prolly couldn't. Me and handgus have this mutual respectful dislike of each other. The only way I can accurately shoot a pistol is with my rifle. It's a character flaw.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    The year before that, two deer went running past me from behind where I was sitting. One went by on the left, another on the right. Before I could figure out what the hell was happening, they were long gone. Since then, I have always brought a handgun with me. I wished I had one then.

    Sometimes later in the season when the woods aren't a pumpkin patch, I will get a chance to stalk on trails through some really thick stuff. I will carry a .357/9x23/44mag/10mm on my hip and leave the rifle in the truck.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,392 Senior Member
    I've got a number of pistols, but dislike shooting them...go figure. I collected them over the years and don't sell them off like I sometimes do rifles. As a result, I've got way too many, two of which were gifts and therefore I couldn't sell them if I wanted to.

    I'm a rifleman. And not much of one at that. My "sport" pistols (non carry pistols) include my .22 Buckmark and Colt Targetsmaster, I don't have holsters for or I might carry them. And my Model 39 doesn't have a holster; when I carry it, I stick it in my pants. My .44 Mag M 29 is like carrying a railroad track around. I bought a cheap shoulder holster for it. It's too heavy for me to carry it AND a rifle. Which lead to the OP.

    Not much of a hunter, I guess. Getting old must have something to do with that. The only thing I want to shoot now are coyotes. Deer hunting property where I live is drying up, sub divisons are flourishing, and deer lurk in the populated where they somehow know they can't be shot. They're almost like lawn ornaments.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    There are worse ways to spend a fall day than strapping on a 1911, a light backpack, putting on a hunter orange ball cap, and going "hunting".
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I noticed on this thread that a lot of you carry a heavy handgun while hunting. I found myself wondering why, since you've already got a primary more powerful rifle.

    In my younger days, I often asked the same question. But that was before feral hogs proliferated in the areas I hunted. I have walked up among a herd(?) of them on a couple of occasions and it unnerved me. Yes, yes, I know - there are those among us who go after them with their pocket knives and scoff at those who don't, but I'm not 30 years old, any more, so I don't. My personal experience tells me that they will run away from me every time, if they know where I'm at. But it also tells me that they don't rely on eyesight and hearing as much as they do smelling. They are easy to walk up on if the wind is right and the ground cover is wet enough not to crinkle when you walk. If you get close to them before they know you're there, they will panic and run any or all directions, because without there primary sense to tell them where you are, they don't know what else to do. I have had them run generally towards me, and others I know have had them run by very close, and hook at them as they go by. Also, I don't know what a big sow with piggies would do, if it caught you on the ground from a fall - something that is quite possible, if you are as excited as the hogs.

    Beyond that, I have had a few occasions when I believe I could have shot one, had I had an easily accessible handgun of sufficient power and accuracy. This gave me a reasonable excuse to go buy a 10mm Glock (never mind that I already owned two .357 magnums :tooth:). Since I squirrel hunt with a scoped bolt-action .22 and walk to my deer blind in the dark with a scoped rifle that is completely wrong for snap-shooting in the dark, I sling it across my back and keep both hands free to operate the Glock, which I carry across the chest in a home-made holster rig. I use one of those cap bill lights that is adequate for a 10 yard shot, so I feel empowered to take on a hog (or maybe even a cat) that gets inside that 10 yard radius.

    The odds are that I'll never use a pistol in this way, but I love the 10mm and shoot it pretty well, and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy when I'm alone in the river bottoms, at night.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Like others, I'd like to use a handgun if situation presents itself.


    I had my opportunity last year with a fat doe at 15 yards. Of course my .357 was in the pickup and I had my SR22 on my belt. I wasnt carrying my .357 because it was cold and I dont have a shoulder holster to keep my pistol were it is easier to get to, outside my bibs or at least in the top. So I shot her with my .243.
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    When we hunt pigs, we might walk 1/2 mile from the drop off to a stand through some thick grass and brush. In these areas there are bears and Florida panthers, coyotes and of course lots of pigs. I hunt with a bolt rifle with a scope and I cannot hold it and a light at the same time. I walk into the stands in the dark with a light in my left hand and my G20 at low ready in my right hand. I have yet to jump a pig, bear or panther and I hope I never will. All the same, having 15 rounds of 10mm goodness at the ready on my way in is a real comfort.

    D
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    I'm reasonably sure that if I carried a side arm, my chances of shooting myself would increase exponentially, especially if attacked by a rampaging prairie dog or something similar. We don't have marauding pigs out here, but there are some downright ferocious jackalopes, so I think I'm better off just being proficient with getting my rifle into shooting position in short order than trying to draw and shoot a hog leg.

    Just my humble opinion, of course.
    Jerry

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,088 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    I walk into the stands in the dark with a light in my left hand and my G20 at low ready in my right hand.
    D

    Might I suggest.............

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    :tooth:
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Might I suggest.............

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    :tooth:

    You could suggest it, sure....

    But for the cost of accessorizing that thing I could buy me a new 45-70... :love:
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,088 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    You could suggest it, sure....

    But for the cost of accessorizing that thing I could buy me a new 45-70... :love:

    But, can you attach a light to it?

    :-)
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    As long as duct tape exists, the answer is always yes.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,005 Senior Member
    I take a handgun, large or small caliber, along because I can.
    junk to carry up a tree...gun, pack, sandwich, thermos, portable TV, Ipad, Port-a-Potty, miracle ear, mineature stereo, hammock.
    I don't carry any stuff like that and if it is along it stays in the boat or truck and I do not get in trees.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,392 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    I take a handgun, large or small caliber, along because I can.

    This is the only answer that doesn't address the question. Lots of stuff you CAN carry, but don't. You could, for example, carry a fishing rod or a rubber ducky. Choice without reason is merely a reflex.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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