New/Old Gun

Diver43

At the SE Shoot I gave our forum brother TennMike a never used dust collector H&R single shot 20 gauge shotgun. Fast foward several weeks and a short barreled .357 mag. Single shot rifle was delivered to my door. The guns overall length is 33.5" the barrel measuring 18.5" It took a while for the scope to arrive, and I had to get taller rings for the scope to clear the hammer and brass hammer extension that TennMike made.. It is finally ready to go kill a hog for the freezer. TennMike is a true craftsman and he took a forgotten gun and turned it into something that I am proud to own. THANKS MIKE
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jaywapti

Nice gun, short and light, that's the way I like em.

Ron you and TennMike get a big:yousuck:

JAY

Farm Boy Deuce

I like it. Lay the hammer down on some pigs.

timc

Sweet, get bustin!

tennmike

Hope it does right by ya! It is a handy sized carbine that is fun to shoot. Get out there and thin the hogs, and kill a deer or three with it. And most of all, just enjoy it!

HvyMax

tennmike wrote: »

Hope it does right by ya! It is a handy sized carbine that is fun to shoot. Get out there and thin the hogs, and kill a deer or three with it. And most of all, just enjoy it!

Did you do a reline or use a barrel blank and tension it? I have seen subguage tubes on the market is that what this is?

USUFB

Very cool. Should be a lot of fun.

Zee

This is cool just for the fellowship, friendship, helpfulness, and story of those on this forum. Very cool.

BigDanS

Once again, Mike is a forum treasure!

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tennmike

HvyMax wrote: »

Did you do a reline or use a barrel blank and tension it? I have seen subguage tubes on the market is that what this is?

Opened up chamber area to preclude any chance of ever chambering a shotshell in it. Took .357 barrel blank and turned it on lathe to fit inside the existing, and shortened barrel. Used a Cerrosafe casting to get the dimensions for transition from opened up chamber area to barrel bore. Used Acra-Glass gel to epoxy barrel liner in place same as if reboring and relining a barrel with a barrel liner. Solder used to be used, but once the high strength epoxies hit the market the solder method fell out of favor for the most part. The shotgun bore was roughed up to give the epoxy something to grip. All liner dimensions are 0.003" undersized for epoxy except for 1" behind muzzle and 1" in front of breech; those dimensions are 0.001" undersized. This is to allow a place for the epoxy to bond.

The Acra-Glass gel is the method I went to quite a few years ago after doing some tests to make sure what I had read about its use for barrel relining was true. That stuff can take some heat and not turn loose.

Some guys on another forum get barrels and cut them off at the area in front of the hinge mount and then thread them. Then they thread a barrel blank to same threads. That method works well, also, but donor barrels are getting hard to find. A couple of guys are getting around the lack of donor barrels by making the breech and hinge sections themselves, and welding the two together. They have been making some heavy hitters doing that.

FWIW, that one for Diver is #7. So far, I've done .38-55, .44 Mag., .357 Mag., .32 H&R Mag., .45ACP, and .45 Colt. The two .45 cals were the most recent, as in this year; they were Rossi 12 and 20 ga. shotguns originally. The .45 Colt is on the 12 ga. frame and the .45ACP is on the 20 ga. frame.

Diver43

So far the rifle has only been shot at an indoor range to 25 yards. I cant wait to get out to the rifle range and zero in the scope.

BAMAAK

I shot one of his conversions, 38-55 I think and it was sweet. Very accurate. Mike does excellent work, well maybe not so much on homemade tannerite but on guns.

Buffco

What kind of range would you guys think would be maximum on a hog with 357?

snake284

Man! That is too cool for description!!! I would think it would be good to 100-150 yards for sure. That's a good range for hogs. I've shot exactly 5 over 100 I believe and if I would have waited I could have nailed a couple of those much closer. I like closer better n farther. Anyway, that things good for 99% of the hogs you'll see. Like I said, too Cool for description.

Jeeper

SWEET RIG! YOU SUCK! :tooth:

Luis

HvyMax

tennmike wrote: »

Opened up chamber area to preclude any chance of ever chambering a shotshell in it. Took .357 barrel blank and turned it on lathe to fit inside the existing, and shortened barrel. Used a Cerrosafe casting to get the dimensions for transition from opened up chamber area to barrel bore. Used Acra-Glass gel to epoxy barrel liner in place same as if reboring and relining a barrel with a barrel liner. Solder used to be used, but once the high strength epoxies hit the market the solder method fell out of favor for the most part. The shotgun bore was roughed up to give the epoxy something to grip. All liner dimensions are 0.003" undersized for epoxy except for 1" behind muzzle and 1" in front of breech; those dimensions are 0.001" undersized. This is to allow a place for the epoxy to bond.

The Acra-Glass gel is the method I went to quite a few years ago after doing some tests to make sure what I had read about its use for barrel relining was true. That stuff can take some heat and not turn loose.

Some guys on another forum get barrels and cut them off at the area in front of the hinge mount and then thread them. Then they thread a barrel blank to same threads. That method works well, also, but donor barrels are getting hard to find. A couple of guys are getting around the lack of donor barrels by making the breech and hinge sections themselves, and welding the two together. They have been making some heavy hitters doing that.

FWIW, that one for Diver is #7. So far, I've done .38-55, .44 Mag., .357 Mag., .32 H&R Mag., .45ACP, and .45 Colt. The two .45 cals were the most recent, as in this year; they were Rossi 12 and 20 ga. shotguns originally. The .45 Colt is on the 12 ga. frame and the .45ACP is on the 20 ga. frame.

Nice. I have welded up a few setups for others. You sound like my friend Dave(Epps1919). He built a Gatling from the original patent drawings then built the full artillery carriage from scratch. Now he has built a Coffee Mill Gun as well and is working on the carriage. Then there is his signature1919 built semi auto from an Israeli parts kit with a homemade crank fire. Like I said in my other thread a skilled machinist makes a handy friend.

Diver43

Buffco wrote: »

What kind of range would you guys think would be maximum on a hog with 357?

TennMike says range for Hogs and Deer = out to 100 yards.

The areas that I have hunted wild pigs in South Fla, that would be a loong shot. I expect that with the proper bullet and waiting for the right shot 75 yards would not be pushing the envelope for this rifle.

knitepoet

I shot one of Mike's with some of my 180gr WFN loads, it was a "puddy tat" and I would expect that load to hammer a hog @ 100 yards.

BigDanS

A .357 158 gr Federal Hydroshock leaves an 18 inch barrel at 1720 FPS making about 1050 FPE. With a 1.5 inch scope height and 100 yard zero, and a ballistic coefficient of .15 it is 0.2 inches high at 25 yards, 1.2 inch high at 50 yards , 1.1 inches high at 75 yards and 0 at 100 yards. It makes 611 FPE at 100 yards, which is plenty. That's like a point blank shot with a .357 and a 6 inch barrel.


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Diver43

Wambli Ska wrote: »

Had the pleasure of shooting it a little over a week ago. It is just sweet!!!!! I was wondering when you were getting around to sharing here.

I had to wait for the scope to come in. The one you shot it with was the 3X9 that came on the Marlin 30-30.
New Scope is a Bushnell 1.5X4.5X32mm. Then I had to get higher rings as the eye bell did not clear the hammer. It felt a little high for me, but as you know anything lower just wouldnt work. I had the cheek pad in a drawer and stuck it on and now the scope sits exactly where it needs to be.
This handy little rifle is screaming to go out and be shot. Lets go get some pigs for the smoker.

tennmike

knitepoet wrote: »

I shot one of Mike's with some of my 180gr WFN loads, it was a "puddy tat" and I would expect that load to hammer a hog @ 100 yards.

Mine is built on a 12 gauge frame and barrel, so it has a bit more weight to fight any recoil. Those 200 grain loads you helped me with are a bit more brisk in the recoil department, and accurate to boot. And a 200 grain .358 bullet at 1700+ fps from a .357 Mag. carbine is just crazy! You were right about Lil' Gun for that load! :up:

bullsi1911

That is sweet. Nice project!

knitepoet

tennmike wrote: »

Mine is built on a 12 gauge frame and barrel, so it has a bit more weight to fight any recoil. Those 200 grain loads you helped me with are a bit more brisk in the recoil department, and accurate to boot. And a 200 grain .358 bullet at 1700+ fps from a .357 Mag. carbine is just crazy! You were right about Lil' Gun for that load! :up:

Glad I could help :beer: