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Another reason I'm not a NRA member.
Pretty self-explanatory.
Con-man-like fear-based "money now" advertising. It's vague, disingenuous and absolutely misleading.
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Con-man-like fear-based "money now" advertising. It's vague, disingenuous and absolutely misleading.
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“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
It's easy to say no.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Jerry
It runs on my love of ATT. Note the charge...
Great reception outside the house. And it's on WIFI right now, thank you. :tooth:
That's my free anti-virus thing requesting to not be free.
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Firstly, I vote all pro-gun. Secondly, we are all taking the "free ride" on the blood of American soldiers.
Thirdly, I should retract that I'm "not" an NRA member because I do subscribe to a basic membership each year when I pay my gun club dues.
Fourthly, I am a member (PAYING member) of an NRA-affiliated gun club who does make contributions from the club's general fund.
Fifthly, I'm damned insulted that someone would think that I am enjoying my 2A rights because of "their dime". That should even insult other paying NRA members.
Lastly, the NRA is not the only game in town and they are moderate compared to other pro-2A organizations and lobbies. They aren't loud enough. They are becoming (in my opinion) politicians, not rights advocates. And they need to STOP "begging" for money.
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if you don't support either or both, don't complain if things do not go right and the gun grabbers win.
NRA does much more, programs such as Instructor training and LE benefits for police widows etc, so who fills that gap? Maybe the stink would be less if NRA was not a Yankee organization etc, I will hold My nose and support NRA and GOA etc....
Well Jason, don't know if you "served," but one doesn't have to die to be a part of the tide that guarantees the continuation of freedom. There are a lot of guys on this forum who put in our time, and many of us didn't shed any blood, but we submitted our bodies and futures to whatever fate our country's enemies had in store for us. So, if you were there, thank you. If you weren't, no problem. Your ride is "free of charge."
The NRA isn't perfect, and I'm sure a lot of overhead goes into paying some hefty salaries at the top. Sort of like Wounded Warriors, where only about 15% of the money actually gets to the warriors.
But you don't hear the liberal jerks every talking about defeating the GOA. You hear them taking about beating the NRA. So, I guess that's the elephant in the room. They're the lobby the libs hate and their the lobby I have to support.
You make your own choices.
Dan
You are quite eloquent!
Those that gripe the most often do the least work for the cause.
It is like the anti-hunters, they raise no money to protect wetlands, ducks unlimited does, those supporting the antis are wasting their money.
Wambli: I don't need your dime to fight for my gun rights
NN: I will complain whenever I want.
It's never too late to join. Even so, you can still send them a check. Thanks.
Thou sayest it.
I never said I didn't recognize the sacrifices of Veterans, in fact, I praised them. And I was aggravated by the implication by Wambli that those in disagreement with the NRA's fund raising tactics are just "free riding" the joys of the 2A on his dime like we do nothing in other ways to help out.
And I'd like to see some salary disclosures at the NRA.
And I do support the NRA effort even if I disagree with their "hey can I borrow a dollar" approach to fund raising. As I said, I pay a NRA membership with my gun club dues and that club adds other contributions through their general fund. And anytime I am asked (like Midway USA asking you to round up your total for NRA contributions), I do. Because it isn't disingenuously solicited.
And every time I go 10-8 on patrol I am placing myself in harms way for citizens. But I'm not asking for attention with regards to that...seeing as how we get frickin' hacked to death with hatchets by Jihadist nutbags, I'd rather lay low in civilian attire...
Hope you aren't implying that is me...
I buy every hunting/fishing license/permit/stamp I need yearly (about $120) so over the course of my life I pay MORE money into local hunting/fishing infrastructure than the "lifetime membershipers" pay. I contribute to DU and I support local state conservation efforts because that money is actually used damn well on our local hunting areas.
Oh, I do. But I won't respond to that email.
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C) It does take a LOT of $$$$$$$$ to get anything done in DC. It's not an 'NRA lie' about needing the money.......
D) If the NRA didn't exist, we would be WAY worse off today with (amount and severity) anti-gun legislation......
Firearms Federation), our local no compromise gun organization. If someone can find an organization that's perfect let me know. I'll join them too.
Never said I didn't think the NRA wasn't helping...
Never said you were taking a free ride on veterans without supporting them (we all are if we haven't served...that's fact). I know you have family serving.
Never said I refused to pay anything NRA related except these damn "pay or lose your guns" emails. The NRA gets my money.
And you can call my position stupid all you want, but it isn't stupid in fact, only in opinion. In fact, after admitting I mistakenly mistitled the thread, my whole gripe was about the email itself and somewhat about disliking the way the NRA fundraises sometimes.
I believe in pro-2A action, but I don't believe any lobby is the answer. But I don't shun them in general. But I will gripe about some specific practices of theirs.
I am insulted by this statement.
JAY
Politicians? The Second Amendment is a political issue, and those who oppose it are trying to get around it. We need politicians, and that's what you and I vote for.
I don't belong to GOA, but notice that no other pro-gun association draws the ire of Lefties like the NRA does, which highly recommends it to me. I'm sure it's a good organization. I remember several years back when some Russian chick got on here promoting some faux-pro 2nd Amendment group, telling lies and trying to raise money for defense of a case that had already been decided and dissing the NRA. If anyone remembers that group, I hope you'll respond...I got into it with her. Her partner, also a Russian, I believe, was named Angel something.
They need money, because money is what fuels Influence, and always has. It's the way the world works. The NRA has a high overhead and it costs a lot to represent our needs.
I hope you'll change your mind and see reason. I don't always agree with them, but they're the only game in town.