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Ruger GSR 5.56mm....price ouchy.

JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
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http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/models.html

Admittedly I only really want one to put it next to my identical 7.62 Gunsite Scout, but a $1039 msrp...ouch... I'll wait for a nice second hand deal to come by like my 7.62 did. But that new 5.56 version looks to be a nice shooter.
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    #2
    Well msrp, and actual price are usually quite different.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
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    tubabucknut wrote: »
    Well msrp, and actual price are usually quite different.

    I know, but that msrp means about $899 or so shelf price. Still ouch considering the other projects I have going on.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
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    Agreed. I have a question though. Is there an advantage to the scout scope location. It seems the balance of the rifle is effected by the scope location. Also, and this may be just me, but long eye relief scopes have never seemed as usable as the traditional variety. Is it just an aesthetic thing? Aesthetics is certainly not a problem, I am just curious if there is some shooting advantage to this setup.
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  • sakodudesakodude Posts: 4,881 Senior Member
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    tubabucknut wrote: »
    Agreed. I have a question though. Is there an advantage to the scout scope location. It seems the balance of the rifle is effected by the scope location. Also, and this may be just me, but long eye relief scopes have never seemed as usable as the traditional variety. Is it just an aesthetic thing? Aesthetics is certainly not a problem, I am just curious if there is some shooting advantage to this setup.
    Not the gunsight scout but the ruger frontier scout
    rugerfrontierscout001_zpse44a9ef9.jpg
    In my opinion the forward scope location has some real utility. This rifle is very compact with a short LOP which would make it difficult for someone my size to shoot comfortably with a scope conventionally mounted. It also seems much easier to shoot with both eyes open which to me, allows better tracking of target in thick cover.
    Real or perceived, these are my justifications for this rifle:tooth: don't burst my bubble.:roll2:

    Sako
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
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    Sako
    I am not trying to burst bubbles. I was just looking for the advantages. I have never used the arrangement myself so I have no reference.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,423 Senior Member
    #7
    Ruger completely missed the boat on the 5.56 GSR. They should have used Mini-14 or at least AR-15 mags.

    As to the Scout concept- I am a huge fan. I have 2 psudo scouts, and find them to be Fast, accurate and handy. the forward scope gives you great peripheral vision, and total situational awareness with both eyes open, but still a magnified view and accuracy. Brings the best of iron sights into the world of scopes.

    Is it perfect- No. but it is great for what it is.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
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    Wasn't the whole modern Scout Rifle concept attributed to Jeff Cooper and it's utility was tried/thought to be useful in places like Rwanda.

    Sure there were Jungle Carbines/Short Rifles/Tanker Carbines and even Mosin Nagants (M-44/91/59s) plus many others. Look at our M-1 Carbine.

    I think the original idy was a short, compact rifle with sufficient power (.308 level) to allow a Scout to engage an enemy when it was necessary so he could disengage and get back to report on his recon mission...? Also serve dual purpose as a means to take game for food. Now even as a compact trunk/squad car rifle for LEOs. How about to go along on outings like a canoe/boat trip/wilderness or fishing trip when it is a good idy to have something that doesn't take up much space, but can get the job done if ever needed?

    Cool concept that has evolved to fit many roles since its inception.

    Of course, an AR-10 in .308 or even a an AR-15 in .223 offers a lot to meet some of the requirements, especially in carbine configurations.

    Good excuse as any to justify another gun!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
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    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Ruger completely missed the boat on the 5.56 GSR. They should have used Mini-14 or at least AR-15 mags.

    As to the Scout concept- I am a huge fan. I have 2 psudo scouts, and find them to be Fast, accurate and handy. the forward scope gives you great peripheral vision, and total situational awareness with both eyes open, but still a magnified view and accuracy. Brings the best of iron sights into the world of scopes.

    Is it perfect- No. but it is great for what it is.

    Hey my Ruger Ranch .223 with a compact Timberline scope is a Scout Rifle and I didn't even look at it that way!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
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