Red Team/Blue Team nonsense

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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,065 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    But Sam, Cruz won the nomination of the Republican party in Texas and as You and I already know in Texas the Main Stream Republican is more akin to a teaparty type. We're true conservatives here. In any other state Cruz might never have gotten the nomination and he may have ended up a Dark Horse Charly running as a hopelss third party guy. Here, we take a good guy like Cruz and put him where he needs to be, in the Saddle.

    I like Cruz's positions, but don't like Cruz. I can't say why, which is weird, I guess. He seems too eager when I've seen him on TV. I'm glad he's a senator in TX and not in GA. I don't think he's electable on a national level. He just shrieks "POLITICIAN" and in the world of today, I don't trust many politicians.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,105 Senior Member
    Cruz is a Christianist, the best I can see. Wouldn't be my first choice.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Cruz is a Christianist, the best I can see. Wouldn't be my first choice.

    Cruz's dad is a Preacher. I think his name is Israel or something like that. Anyway, that's how Cruz comes by it.

    But here in Texas Cruz is kinda our kinda guy. The main thing we love about Cruz is he's conservative. That's what we like here. We want government Out of our Lives.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I like Cruz's positions, but don't like Cruz. I can't say why, which is weird, I guess. He seems too eager when I've seen him on TV. I'm glad he's a senator in TX and not in GA. I don't think he's electable on a national level. He just shrieks "POLITICIAN" and in the world of today, I don't trust many politicians.

    Gene, You may be right about Cruz not being able to make it on the national level, but you just never know. Cruz is still fairly young yet. One thing i remember that worried me in 1980 was I had heard the same things about Ronald Reagan. I actually didn't care what the polls were saying, from all the negatives I was hearing back then I really didn't think Reagan had a prayer of getting elected. But BOY DID HE FOOL ME!!!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    Anyway, I voted. I voted all Republican except some unopposed judge offices for people I know personally. But nobody on the national or even state level with the word Democrat next to their name got my vote.

    Cruz wasn't on the menu today but Cornyn was. I always have voted for John Cornyn. He's another one of those Texas Republican establishment guys that could be a tea party person.

    Of course Greg Abbot and Dan Patrick got my vote without a blink of my eyes. I need not say anything else because like I said, on the state and national level I was straight up Republican.


    Win or Lose, I feel really good about my votes today. Now if only enough other's felt the same as I did.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    There are plenty of older but very sharp and effective legislators out there, but your point is well taken.

    I get pretty frustrated by "comfy" Republicans and how they just sit there and vote the safest and least pushy party line.

    And sorry, folks, but voting 3rd party or not voting at all does ZERO to change this. If I'm wrong, please show me how not voting or writing in "M. Mouse" or voting Libertarian has effected a real change. It makes no change at all and 3rd party votes (or not voting) is simply ignored by the party leaderships.

    I continue to stress that the ONLY way to effect a change is to work within the party and to change it via the primaries.

    As I said, welcome to the real world.

    But yeah, Diver, we've got plenty of ancient hangers-on and they have to be "retired" and changed out.

    And 104 said it perfectly: Infuse the party with with less cowardly conservative young blood.
    Sam, I would say it's more like LESS COMFORTABLE, than less cowardly.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    But Sam, Cruz won the nomination of the Republican party in Texas and as You and I already know in Texas the Main Stream Republican is more akin to a teaparty type. We're true conservatives here. In any other state Cruz might never have gotten the nomination and he may have ended up a Dark Horse Charly running as a hopelss third party guy. Here, we take a good guy like Cruz and put him where he needs to be, in the Saddle.

    Agree totally. Which is one reason why I enjoy living in Texas, we actually get to pick and choose between which Republican is the better instead of seeing a bunch of Democrats always elected. Just a few years ago it was different but now, we've got 100% Republicans in statewide offices. Love it!

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Sam, I would say it's more like LESS COMFORTABLE, than less cowardly.

    Either way is fine with me.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Agree totally. Which is one reason why I enjoy living in Texas, we actually get to pick and choose between which Republican is the better instead of seeing a bunch of Democrats always elected. Just a few years ago it was different but now, we've got 100% Republicans in statewide offices. Love it!

    Me too Bro,

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    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,105 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Cruz's dad is a Preacher. I think his name is Israel or something like that. Anyway, that's how Cruz comes by it.

    But here in Texas Cruz is kinda our kinda guy. The main thing we love about Cruz is he's conservative. That's what we like here. We want government Out of our Lives.
    Good luck with that with a Christianist.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Agree totally. Which is one reason why I enjoy living in Texas, we actually get to pick and choose between which Republican is the better instead of seeing a bunch of Democrats always elected. Just a few years ago it was different but now, we've got 100% Republicans in statewide offices. Love it!

    Yeah Bro, I love it too, :guns:............:group:............:beer:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Good luck with that with a Christianist.

    Well Bro, here in Texas Being a Christian makes no difference. Oh it may draw a few votes, but it may even cost him some votes. But here we don't worry about a man's religion unless of course he wants to kill everyone else with a different religion. We take offense to that.

    But a lot of people in various places wouldn't vote for Romney because he was Mormon. But Romney carried Texas because we don't care as long as he doesn't try to force his religion on us. And I've never seen him try to force his beliefs on anybody. Neither has Cruz.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    We are so used to being screwed by both sides, we're either enjoying it or so numb to the screwing we don't even notice it anymore. I HATE democraps, Republicans irritate me sometimes, and after 4 presidential elections (1976-1992) of voting for the Libertarian Party candidate I am disappointed that they don't have more credibility with the voters. The problem is the political waters have been muddied and mixed to the extent that a conservative purist is not trusted by either side. I tend to agree with some of the opinions stated here, where the Libertarian candidate should run as a Republican. Just look at how successful Socialists and Communists have been under the Democrat banner: NYC, San Francisco, Los Angeles, States of New York, Massachusetts, Illinois, Colorado, Maryland, New Jersey and in certain Congressional districts comes to mind. I'm sure there are others. Regarding compromise: I think that the more Republicans compromise with Democrats, the more socialism we end up with, and that's the reason I avoid voting for RINO's anymore. Libertarians need to stay in the Republican party and focus on state and district elections first, then work their way up the political ladder. Adrian Wyllie in Florida is a good example, but running on the (I) or (L) platform isn't going to work.


    EXACTLY! Look how successful the socialists and communists have been by subjugating the Democratic party! Why not have Constitutionalists do the same with the Republicans!?

    Luis
    Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Good luck with that with a Christianist.

    What's the difference from a Christian? Just wondering, having seen that other term.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,105 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    What's the difference from a Christian? Just wondering, having seen that other term.

    A Christianist is like a Islamist - wants his/her brand of religion to be the only one - a theocrat. Sam, I'm pretty sure you're not one! :beer:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,105 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Well Bro, here in Texas Being a Christian makes no difference. Oh it may draw a few votes, but it may even cost him some votes. But here we don't worry about a man's religion unless of course he wants to kill everyone else with a different religion. We take offense to that.

    But a lot of people in various places wouldn't vote for Romney because he was Mormon. But Romney carried Texas because we don't care as long as he doesn't try to force his religion on us. And I've never seen him try to force his beliefs on anybody. Neither has Cruz.
    I hope not (in reference to Cruz) - I'll admit I haven't paid a lot of attention to him, unlike how I have with the "Ricks". I didn't care about Romney being a Mormon - as you say, as long as he isn't being a Christianist - Mormons are just another brand of Christian to an outsider like me. I wasn't particularly thrilled with Romney for a host of other reasons - but I voted for him and would do so again. That communist we have now needs to be stifled until he's GONE - but I'm "preaching to the choir" so to speak! :tooth:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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