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Citadel 9mm M1 carbine

tennmiketennmike Senior MemberPosts: 27,288 Senior Member
Just got the Shotgun News Dec. 1 issue and it has a report on the Citadel 9mm M1 carbine, which is fed from Beretta 92 magazines. It's manufactured in Italy by Chiappa. Reported accuracy was between 2.4 and 3.3 inches at 50 yards depending on ammo. It's a nice looking little carbine (they also make one in .22LR). It's a straight blowback action and is a little different than the M1 carbine as to bolt and charging handle, but it sure looks interesting. I think I found my Christmas present for this year.

http://www.legacysports.com/m-1-9mm-carbine
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  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    That looks very nice.

    All that knocks off the shine, the ''clip'' :jester: area, does not look clean.

    But over all. :up:
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,490 Senior Member
    I think that would make a dandy little short-range carbine. Might be more practical than an M1 in .30 Carbine in some ways...
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,204 Senior Member
    Would love to have one for HD.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,288 Senior Member
    Next week I'm gonna head to the Mom 'n' Pop LGS and see if I can talk them into ordering one for me. .30 carbine ammo is expensive; 9mm is much more reasonable. And that thing looks like a super fun plinker. And there is a reasonably priced 50 round drum magazine for the Beretta 92. :devil:
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,005 Senior Member
    If they made that to take CZ-75 mags, I would be ALL over it
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  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    ....... And there is a reasonably priced 50 round drum magazine for the Beretta 92. :devil:

    There you go. :tooth:
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    $600 street price near me for the wooden stock (M1 Carbine should be wood!) is a little less than the Beretta CX which sounds good. I just don't know enough about Citadel stuff to take the leap. I have heard their .22LR version wasn't to hot but never from anyone firsthand or I'd trust.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,626 Senior Member
    Nice looking little carbine.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,634 Senior Member
    Very interesting, but, not accurate enough.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,626 Senior Member
    Kinda pricey, too. At $600? Did I read that right? I wouldn't doubt it, wood and blue steel.
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,228 Senior Member
    Did the review say anything about the trigger quality? That has kept me from buying the Beretta carbine.
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,228 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Very interesting, but, not accurate enough.

    What other 9mm carbine is more accurate than roughly 3" at 50 yards? Serious question as I am in the market but haven't found anything that doesn't have a fatal flaw.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Well it may be the answer to Marlin Camp carbines? Any in .45????
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,288 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Buds gun shop is your friend.
    Looks like the Tupperware model

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/89528/redirect

    Tupperware stock model need not apply. I want a real wood stock.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,288 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Well it may be the answer to Marlin Camp carbines? Any in .45????

    Nope. But you can get a Glock or 1911 Carbine conversion unit for around 5 Benjamins.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,288 Senior Member
    JKP wrote: »
    Did the review say anything about the trigger quality? That has kept me from buying the Beretta carbine.

    The guy reviewing it said the trigger pull was a little stiff at 9 pounds, but that's an easy fix. He said that may have contributed to larger group size.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    The guy reviewing it said the trigger pull was a little stiff at 9 pounds, but that's an easy fix. He said that may have contributed to larger group size.

    Will it meet Ned's standards?
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  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    ....... I want a real wood stock.


    Any plastic bits to speak of?
  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 827 Senior Member
    I've handled the 22lr version, being an m1 carbine fan I really like the platform and concept, but the fit and finish are VERY sloppy on the specimen I handled, you really want to examine them firsthand before you buy one, YMMV.
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,786 Senior Member
    Pistol caliber carbines are perfect for a lot of things. The performance is seriously enhanced by the extra barrel length.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,626 Senior Member
    My house is too small to freely use a rifle for HD, especially one in a pistol caliber. In some situations, a pistol is better than a rifle.

    A rifle in a rifle caliber is good if you have room to use it. I think this carbine would be fun for general plinking and hunting small game. It's got that classic look about it that I love. I know the plastic one is cheaper, but if I were in the market, I'd go wood.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,288 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That would be a neat plinker and not a bad little HD piece if it's reliable enough.

    Fit of wood to metal is not really an issue as that can be dealt with. As to the action, I've worked on more than a few Taurus pistols, so I'm well versed on polishing poop sticks. If it has problems, I can either dehorn and polish rough parts, or make new ones. Heavy triggers can be lightened. When I get through with it, it will be reliable. As to accuracy, it is what it is. My M1 carbine isn't exactly a tack driver, either. I want it for nothing more than a fun can killer that can also do duty as a HD carbine. That last part is where the 50 round drum comes in.
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  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,746 Senior Member
    I like it......if I didn't already have a PC4 to cover the pistol caliber base I would seriously look into it.
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    It would be a neat metal folding stock paratrooper setup.
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,148 Senior Member
    I might be enticed by a .45/1911 magazine version. . .or a .45 Win Mag/LAR Grizzly magazine version.
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    For crying out loud, why can't they make something like this in .357 Magnum? I know the rimmed cartridge would make for an AK47 style curved banana magazine, but I could happily live with that.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,626 Senior Member
    JKP wrote: »
    What other 9mm carbine is more accurate than roughly 3" at 50 yards? Serious question as I am in the market but haven't found anything that doesn't have a fatal flaw.

    Three inches at 50 yards is pretty good shooting without a scope. It can be done better, but not by me with carbine sights.
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  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    ....... why can't they make something like this in .357 Magnum?


    Universal brought out a.256 Winchester Magnum carbine, early 1960's.


    Lots of detail here;

    http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_Universal256.html

    Universal2562.jpg
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,005 Senior Member
    There was a company in the early 90s that was converting M1 Carbines to run .50AE. That would be pretty darn cool to have as well
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,490 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    There was a company in the early 90s that was converting M1 Carbines to run .50AE. That would be pretty darn cool to have as well
    LeMag. Founded by Tim LeGendre. He's the guy who envisioned and developed the .45 Professional, which became the .450 Bushmaster.
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