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tubabucknut wrote: »
Thanks Jerm. I have had my eye on those as well. I think for the 45/70 I will settle on something in the 1ish to 4-5ish range.
tubabucknut wrote: »
Sorry Wambli. I didn't mean to imply anything. I usually purchase in the upper end range. I have seen some more expensive scopes fail on some big guns. Price does not mean quality, but the trend is there. I have a couple of the prostaff on some .22s. That is what got me thinking of the Monarch. I have enjoyed the Prostaff scopes.
Wambli Ska wrote: »
They now have a Monarch 7 line which is meant to compete against the European brands.
snake284 wrote: »
I believe Price should mean quality and it usually does in the more reputable brands. Nikon is very high quality through its entire line. I don't own any Monarchs yet, but judging from their bottom line Prostaff and mid line Buckmaster, of which I own some of both, I'd have to say Monarch is on par with Leupold in quality.
The Buckmaster is a bit superior to the Prostaff or at least that's as advertised, but in actual field performance I can tell no earth shaking difference. In fact, and I hate to say this on here for fear I'll be committed to the nut house, I will go so far as to say that my one Prostaff, a 3-9x40, doesn't give up much to my VX-3L Leupold. I know that sounds like a stretch but I've used them both in low light situations and there's not enough difference in light and briteness for me to tell. And my VX-3L has a 56mm Objective and a 30 mm Body. So take it for what it's worth, but thats a fact. And also, a big plus for the Nikon is Eye Relief. Mine have 3 3/4 to 4 inches minimum on any power setting.
I have the 3-9x40 on my Rem. 700 SPS 30-06, my 4.5-14 x40 Buckmaster on my .250 Savage, and I have a 6-18x40 with BDC Reticle on my Rem. 700 ADL Synthetic 22-250 and another 6-18x40 with Mildot Reticle on my Stevens Model 200 .223 Remington. I love em all and would not hesitate to buy more Nikons. And as for standing up to recoil, I shoot a 200 grain bullet load out of that 30-06. I would put them up against Leupold for toughness and dependability.
bisley wrote: »
I can afford Leupolds on my favorite rifles but I use Nikon Buckmasters because the optics are as good as comparable Leupolds, if not better. They return to zero properly, after adjusting, and I've never had one just 'lose zero.' I don't have anything larger than .30-06, though, and I haven't owned a Monarch, which are supposed to be even better, so I can't speak to that. Supposedly, the Buckmarks are more in line with the newer Redfields that are made under Leupold standards, but I like the Buckmark better, personally.
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