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JermanatorJermanator Senior MemberPosts: 16,244 Senior Member
The negligence and wrongful death lawsuit, filed in Bridgeport Superior Court, asserts that the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it was designed for military use and is unsuited for hunting or home defense.

I hope this gets swatted down fast, but I won't hold my breath. More here...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/families-newtown-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-seller/
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    My prayers go out to them, but I hope they lose from the get-go. Makes no sense to me to blame the gun type for the murder of their children. They can't strike out at the perp because he is dead.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    "The negligence and wrongful death lawsuit, filed in Bridgeport Superior Court, asserts that the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it was designed for military use and is unsuited for hunting or home defense.

    "The AR-15 was specifically engineered for the United States military to meet the needs of changing warfare," attorney Josh Koskoff said in a release. "In fact, one of the Army's specifications for the AR-15 was that it has the capability to penetrate a steel helmet."

    Oh, I'm sure they had penetration requirements and the old steel pots were not hard to shoot through......................

    Oh, this is just not true, at all. What BS they are spewing. It will cost the defense, but any expert witness can refute this.

    AR-15s are a civilian version of an M-16, semi-automatic NOT full automatic and they can and are used for hunting/home defense/target shooting. What malarkey.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Considering that one of my AR-15's is a dedicated home defense rifle, and I have another that will be a dedicated hunting rig. Yea.:roll:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Law was passed in G.W. Bush's second term that prohibits suits by individuals against a firearms manufacturer for such acts by an individual. You can still sue for a defective product that causes injury or death. But not for someone using the firearm to commit murder.
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  • DurangoKidDurangoKid Member Posts: 183 Member
    This has been tried before. The Liberals want guns controlled as tobacco. That way they can fill the pockets of lazy Democrat lawyers. The 2nd Amendment to the Bill Of Rights has with stood these attacks in the courts. The gun companies have settled law suites out of courts to reduce legal cost.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,144 Senior Member
    This is no different that suing GMC because I hit you with my Impala. Makes no sense to anyone that looks at it.
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  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 902 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Law was passed in G.W. Bush's second term that prohibits suits by individuals against a firearms manufacturer for such acts by an individual. You can still sue for a defective product that causes injury or death. But not for someone using the firearm to commit murder.

    Sounds like a lawyer trying to make some money from the families, that are not aware of the Federal Law that prohibits these types of lawsuits.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Nomadac wrote: »
    Sounds like a lawyer trying to make some money from the families, that are not aware of the Federal Law that prohibits these types of lawsuits.

    With the Federal law in place, if Bushmaster is smart they will have their lawyers file a countersuit for 10X what the moneygrubbing families are asking for and going full bore after them in court for court costs, lawyer fees, too.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I hope this gets swatted down fast, but I won't hold my breath. More here...
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/families-newtown-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-seller/

    Let's sue car manufacturers when a drunk driver kills someone.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Let's sue car manufacturers when a drunk driver kills someone.

    I'm all for that! Car manufacturers know that drunk drivers buy their cars and drive them while intoxicated. That's like selling guns to felons-in-waiting.
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    I'm all for that! Car manufacturers know that drunk drivers buy their cars and drive them while intoxicated. That's like selling guns to felons-in-waiting.


    Uh careful with that... they already have breathalyzer cut offs.... Stupid idea a can of air can bypass.

    D
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    Uh careful with that... they already have breathalyzer cut offs.... Stupid idea a can of air can bypass.

    D

    15 day waiting period for buying a car. Background check on buyer. If a sale is from owner to private individual, then sale must go through dealer who does background check on prospective buyer. Convicted drunk driver in possession of vehicle liable for up to 10 years in prison and up to $10,000 fine if convicted. :jester:

    (We don't have a sarcasm font, Dan.)
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,046 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    Uh careful with that... they already have breathalyzer cut offs.... Stupid idea a can of air can bypass.

    D

    Guy I used to know ended up with one of those on his truck. It takes a picture of you when blowing in the tube, and it will also flash a light when it wants you to hum. (He had a funny comedy bit about having to give his car.... pleasure... to get a ride). So, no- you can't defeat that with a can of air or a balloon.

    Funny story- when in college, I had to sign an affidavit from a court officer that I drove a convicted DWI offender's car for a state inspection. I was not going to blow on that thing just to test the brakes. Ick
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Now is the time to buy AR15 rifles. If they lose the case - no problem, AR15s are at very favorable prices now anyway, so you didn't get ripped off and you have some very cool new toys. If they win the case, AR15 manufacturers and retailers will drop like flies and your rifles will appreciate greatly - and very, very quickly, to many times their purchase price. BUY NOW.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    "The negligence and wrongful death lawsuit, filed in Bridgeport Superior Court, asserts that the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it was designed for military use and is unsuited for hunting or home defense.


    Oh, I'm sure they had penetration requirements and the old steel pots were not hard to shoot through......................

    Oh, this is just not true, at all. What BS they are spewing. It will cost the defense, but any expert witness can refute this.

    AR-15s are a civilian version of an M-16, semi-automatic NOT full automatic and they can and are used for hunting/home defense/target shooting. What malarkey.

    "The AR-15 was specifically engineered for the United States military to meet the needs of changing warfare," attorney Josh Koskoff said in a release. "In fact, one of the Army's specifications for the AR-15 was that it has the capability to penetrate a steel helmet."

    OMG! Ya don't say? So was a Mauser, an 03 Springfield, and an M1 Garand. OOPS! I better shut up before they want to confiscate everything I own. Because just a whole bunch of rifles out there nowadays were once the design for a military weapon.

    Of course a Sleezeball Lawyer doesn't give a rat's ass as long as he makes his millions. And the real goal of the left is to conficate them all. Obama cracks me up with that line about "Common Sense Gun Control." His and the rest of the real "True Believers" real goal is to destroy the 2A and take away our rights.
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  • GunnerK19GunnerK19 Senior Member Posts: 1,095 Senior Member
    As tennmike stated. Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7901
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