Yeah, but my actions are closed in trophy shots and I use match bullets for hunting. Drive other bullets too fast because folks say I shouldn't and get results I'm not supposed to get. Not to mention I take head shots and use game as ballistic test media as well as table fare. I'd be ostracized from the outset. I don't follow the status quo.
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Piss on the status quo. This stuff is priceless.
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This is one thing I've never understood about the gun market - folks will buy 870's and 500's by the truckload and enthusiastically extol their fast-handling and rapid-fire virtues for blasting clay, little birdies, and unwanted 3:00 am visitors. But give them the same system in a package that can fell an elk from a few hundred yards and they get all balky - opting instead for B.Tyler Henry's ergonomic dinosaur. It don't add up!:silly:
I estimated 2,250 from looking at the Hodgdon manual.
This is exactly why I never even bother trying to build come-ups or drop tables based on the published numbers. Seldom do they work out close enough for field work in the real world.
Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
The last deer I shot with this gun was at 123 yards using the 250gr Hornady XTP. This round is supposedly not designed for the velocity the .460 S&W generates. Well, my goal is to disprove that theory.
Great write up as usual but I want to point out that Hornady's concern about the XTP isn't as much about the velocity as it is the pressure. They make an XTP mag that has a thicker jacket to withstand the higher pressure of a 460 or a 454 casull. Their concern is that the high pressure will make the bullet obturate to, two, too much and seal the bore too effectively and let the pressure spike a little too high. It looks like the bullet works well but you don't really know what's happening in the chamber as the magic's happening.
^^^ That's what I had read about as well. Not sure, but maybe more of an issue with the revolvers as I understand it. Possible increased flame cutting of the forcing cone and top strap of the revolver. I never shot anything but 240 and 300 grain XTP mags out of mine while I had it, so I don't know. Just what I had read.
I became disenchanted years ago by the veritable lack of information and opinion that wasn't bought and paid for by others.
So, I decided to generate my own. I will likely never be a writer as I have an opinion and am not afraid to use it even to the offense of others sensibilities and bottom line.
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I've studies this subject for 30 plus years. The information has been available that long, most people refused to believe it.
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2,388 fps !!!!!
So, the corrected ballistics are.......
.460 S&W
Bullet: 250gr Hornady XTP
Muzzle Velocity: 2,388
Distance to Impact: 93 yards
Angle: Right Side Quartering Towards
Impact Velocity: 1,848 (est)
Distance Traveled After Impact: 0 yards
Duuuuuuuuuude. . .:drool:
For the love of all that is right and proper, SOMEBODY chamber that round in a short pump action!
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Or, a slick lever gun.....
Gross!!!
Yes, please.
Seriously? The concept of this child of the '30's in a .460 or .500S&W does nothing for you?
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Absolutely none. Your know how you are about lever guns?
That's me about pump actions.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
So, there.
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I estimated 2,250 from looking at the Hodgdon manual.
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Oh, forgot to mention.....that's 3165 FPE, in case you wanted to know.
This is exactly why I never even bother trying to build come-ups or drop tables based on the published numbers. Seldom do they work out close enough for field work in the real world.
Great write up as usual but I want to point out that Hornady's concern about the XTP isn't as much about the velocity as it is the pressure. They make an XTP mag that has a thicker jacket to withstand the higher pressure of a 460 or a 454 casull. Their concern is that the high pressure will make the bullet obturate to, two, too much and seal the bore too effectively and let the pressure spike a little too high. It looks like the bullet works well but you don't really know what's happening in the chamber as the magic's happening.
I've studies this subject for 30 plus years. The information has been available that long, most people refused to believe it.