Travel help needed,Alabama, Mississippi, Texas

104RFAST104RFAST Senior MemberPosts: 1,262 Senior Member
Planning a trip to Texas next week.We will be traveling through Alabama, Mississippi &
Louisiana, mostly along I-10. Although I'm a Florida CCW holder I don't really have a
desire to carry during this trip, I just want info on the rules for having a Gun in my car.
Is it legal to have a gun in you car in these States ??
Thanks in advance !:usa:

Bill

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,666 Senior Member
    My understanding (I'm not a lawyer, etc... Take it with a grain of salt), is that TX you can have a gun in your car no problem, as long as you are not committing a crime

    Your FL carry license is good here as well, IIRC
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,544 Senior Member
    There's a website that lists which states have reciprocity with which other states. Florida has reciprocity with about 34 other states and all the states that you'll be passing through are good to go.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,903 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    There's a website that lists which states have reciprocity with which other states. Florida has reciprocity with about 34 other states and all the states that you'll be passing through are good to go.

    Handgunlaw.us
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  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,492 Senior Member
    The best I"ve found is J. Scott Kappas book " A Travelers guide to 50 state gun laws"

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,903 Senior Member
    I think the NRA has a page for that too
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    I think it is legal in ALA to keep a loaded gun in the glove box/console now with or without a CCW, recently changed. I'd make sure though or else 'You may be in a heap of trouble boy................'

    You CCW should cover you in states with reciprocal agreements if you otherwise are allowed to keep one loaded in your car by state law.

    Remember the ole adage............... ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,262 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I think it is legal in ALA to keep a loaded gun in the glove box/console now with or without a CCW, recently changed. I'd make sure though or else 'You may be in a heap of trouble boy................'

    You CCW should cover you in states with reciprocal agreements if you otherwise are allowed to keep one loaded in your car by state law.

    Remember the ole adage............... ignorance of the law is no excuse.

    Wrong Chief,that law did not pass. It is being resubmitted next month. You are ok in AL with a FL CCW. If not, gun needs to be out of reach (trunk) and separated from ammo.
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    As others have said your FL CHP covers you in those states as long as you follow their laws like restaurant serving alcohol carry for example. I am not sure about all states so check, but here in NC my CHP is only for a HANDGUN but not a long gun when tucked away behind the seat. Another thing is Texas does not allow open carry so concealed is your friend there.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    I can't say about Alabama or Mississippi but Texas has a full reciprocal CHL agreement with Florida. Your Florida carry permit is totally accepted here.

    Additionally, in Texas (I think Florida law is the same), you don't even need a concealed license to legally carry a gun in your vehicle. It must be your vehicle or rented by you (not for example if you're just a driver for a trucking firm). So you can carry the handgun in your vehicle even without any permit.

    A couple of cautions and info re. Texas handgun laws...

    1- Where you can carry concealed in Texas may differ from Florida. In Texas, you cannot carry concealed (even if you've got a permit) in a bar or tavern. But you CAN carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol. The difference is that 51% of the revenue must be for food, and then it's okay. For example, if you stop in, say, a Red Lobster for lunch, if they serve beer, it is okay if you're carrying concealed. And it's okay if you have a beer. But you cannot stop in "Eddie's Saloon" for a beer if carrying.

    2- Texas law makes NO differentiation between a loaded gun or an unloaded gun. If it's legal to have a gun at all where you are, the gun being loaded or unloaded makes no difference under the law. Reason I'm saying this is that in some states, you might be okay carrying a pistol in your glove compartment unloaded but not loaded. In Texas, if you can have the gun, you can have it loaded or empty, no diff.

    The change for allowing anyone to carry a handgun in the car/truck passenger compartment, loaded or not, within reach of the passengers or drivers or not, was changed about 4 years ago here. Now, ANY person can carry a loaded handgun, visible or concealed, in reach of the driver or not. Of course the gun has to be yours and you can't be committing a crime or drunk or whatever. And of course, common sense says that you might not want to drive around with a loaded .357 on the seat next to you in plain view.

    Final note: If you are stopped by a cop while driving for any reason in which the cop asks for your license (maybe you made a wrong left turn), and if you've got a gun in the passenger compartment, you are required to tell the cop this "Officer, I've got a pistol in my center console" or "Officer, I've got a Florida concealed carry permit and I've got a revolver in my waist holster."

    Other states' laws may differ. In some states you cannot have a gun (handgun) in the passenger compartment but it's okay in the trunk, difference is that it's not within reach of the passengers. And in some places, the gun must be unloaded, too.

    However in Texas if you're allowed to carry or have a handgun wherever, there is zero distinction made whether it's loaded or not.

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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    A small note about coming through Houston on I-10.

    If you need to stop for, say, gas, be sure to do this on the WEST side of the city, after you've passed through the middle of the city (I-10 runs right thru the center of downtown). The east side is a lot rougher and there are fewer "good" places to stop, whereas the west side of the city near I-10 is a lot more sedate and comfy.

    East is industrial and warehouses and a lot more shabby, west is all suburbs, upscale shopping and cleaner and more friendly places to stop for gas and whatever, by comparison with the eastern side of town. West of downtown, after a couple miles of the "neartown" zone, it's all bedroom communities for, oh, 15 damn miles.

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    Planning a trip to Texas next week.We will be traveling through Alabama, Mississippi &
    Louisiana, mostly along I-10. Although I'm a Florida CCW holder I don't really have a
    desire to carry during this trip, I just want info on the rules for having a Gun in my car.
    Is it legal to have a gun in you car in these States ??
    Thanks in advance !:usa:

    Bill

    Added to what Bullsi said, if you aren't driving stupid, if you don't look suspicious, or LE isn't looking for you, if you just put your guns in the trunk of your car nobody will stop you and harass you or search for your guns. We are gun friendly here in Texas. Oh and Welcome to the Lone Star State. Just watch your speed and stay on I-10 and you won't encounter any speed traps.

    Actually I was thinking if you had some long guns. If you have your carry weapon just put it under the seat or if you have a console compartment stick it in there where it's accessible if needed, but out of sight.

    Also, Sam is spot on. Get to the West side. Houston is a great city but like all big cities has it's bad areas.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    Wrong Chief,that law did not pass. It is being resubmitted next month. You are ok in AL with a FL CCW. If not, gun needs to be out of reach (trunk) and separated from ammo.

    OK, thanks. I knew there was some talk of changes in ALA when I was in HSV. So not yet. His CCW should cover him though.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Oh and Welcome to the Lone Star State. Just watch your speed and stay on I-10 and you won't encounter any speed traps.

    Er, not really, but if your speed is not much more than 5-7mph over the posted limit, you'll be okay. There won't be any ratty techie speed traps per se on I-10 (like you might find on state highways near some cheesy towns) but you will absolutely see an occasional radar car sitting along the way, clocking traffic. These guys are however looking for blatant speeders, like going 75 in a 55. But for "normal everyday" slightly speeding, you're okay.

    Like many places on the Interstate, you may run thru radar just after crossing into Texas from Lousy-ana. Some smaller cities might also post a local radar car here and there. You're okay staying 5-7mph above the posted limit.

    In Texas, like snake says, you're totally okay having a handgun in the vehicle so long as it's not visible. But under the seat or in a zipper bag behind the seat so you can reach it? In the glove compartment or center console? Fine.

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,669 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I think it is legal in ALA to keep a loaded gun in the glove box/console now with or without a CCW, recently changed.
    NOPE!!!!
    Alabama and FL have a reciprocity agreement, so you won't have a problem BUT,unless it is locked away AND unloaded, you MUST have a CCL to carry a handgun in a vehicle in this state.

    BC might have heard about a state senator wanting to change the law, but it is NOT a current law and actually, has been voted down in previous sessions.
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,262 Senior Member
    In AL, you can walk around all day open carry. The second you get in a car it's considered concealed.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,669 Senior Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    In AL, you can walk around all day open carry. The second you get in a car it's considered concealed.
    Yep, unless you remove it, unload it, and lock it in the trunk, or somewhere "outside of the control" of the driver or passenger(s)
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  • MississippiBoyMississippiBoy Senior Member Posts: 819 Senior Member
    I'm not sure on CHL reciprocity between MS and other states, but I do know that:
    1. No problem carrying a loaded weapon in your car, because Mississippi considers any motor vehicle (car, boat, etc) as part of your residence, so no need for any kind of permit.
    And 2. Open carry IS allowed in MS.

    Edited to add: According to handgunlaw.us, Mississippi honors all other states' permits.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Er, not really, but if your speed is not much more than 5-7mph over the posted limit, you'll be okay. There won't be any ratty techie speed traps per se on I-10 (like you might find on state highways near some cheesy towns) but you will absolutely see an occasional radar car sitting along the way, clocking traffic. These guys are however looking for blatant speeders, like going 75 in a 55. But for "normal everyday" slightly speeding, you're okay.

    Like many places on the Interstate, you may run thru radar just after crossing into Texas from Lousy-ana. Some smaller cities might also post a local radar car here and there. You're okay staying 5-7mph above the posted limit.

    In Texas, like snake says, you're totally okay having a handgun in the vehicle so long as it's not visible. But under the seat or in a zipper bag behind the seat so you can reach it? In the glove compartment or center console? Fine.

    That's why I said watch your speed. What I'm calling a speed trap is like I encountered once on the hiway between Dayton and Liberty. There's a sudden rise there and at the bottom the speed limit is 70, but right at the top just out of sight until you get up, is a 55 mph speed limit sign. You can lock up your brakes when you can first see it and if the cop's there (Local Yocal) he'll have you before you're under 55. That's my idea of a speed trap and you generally won't see those types of traps on an interstate.
    . If you're not going over 70 or maybe 73, you won't get stopped on I-10.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    snake is right about various zones. One in particular is just as you leave Lousy-anna and enter Texas on I-10. Thing is, there are several Indian casinos just inside the La border, and many patrons come from Tx. They'll not do the charter bus thing but drive, and some of them get loaded on booze while their pockets are being unloaded at the tables, and then speed home across the border. Whawwwwww goes the cop siren...

    So take it easy just after the border is crossed. And I've found this fairly common in many states, where the Interstate crosses a state border, the radar boys are just a couple miles inland, waiting.

    And like snake says, some punk towns will try to grab you, creating a generally artificial slowdown -- thing is, this was once used a lot on the Interstate until the Feds changed the rules, and now any slowdown or change in speed limit on the Interstate has to be approved by the Feds. So you won't find the goofy 70mph to 50mph in 45 feet or you get a ticket anymore on "I" ways. Still happens a lot on US highways, though.

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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Regarding negotiating yourselves thru the Houston metroplex on I-10. Understand that Houston is a monster burg, 4th largest in population but also enormous area. Add to that the suburbs and you've got maybe 50 miles of "civic pride" ha ha.

    All thru Lousy-anna and east Texas you'll of course see refineries and oil rigs, depending on how close the waterways come to the Interstate. Lots of truck traffic, big rigs carrying drilling gear or gas and oil. Smart to drive with brainy caution.

    Looped around Houston are 3 main circles: State highway 8 the largest, then Highway 6, and then essentially all city, I-610.

    Coming into Houston from the east, you'll get refineries galore, then nearer town, warehouses and low rent housing and some pretty shabby stuff. Just drive on thru if you can.

    As you cross Beltway 8 and then 6, you'll get more industry and concentrated businesses and residential, then inside I-610 you'll pass the Budweiser brewery and head toward the center of the city.

    Because the land is so flat, the central Houston skyline is impressive, most of the skyscrapers upscale and nice looking. Right in the middle of downtown you'll cross I-45 which of course runs from Galveston to North Texas (Dallis).

    Soon as you're past the actual downtown and the freeway interchanges (spaghetti bowl) you'll be in a light industrial zone dotted w. pretty okay homes and such. I live maybe a mile from there, south, just west of downtown.

    Should anyone be passing thru Houston mid-day or any reasonable time, I'm happy for a get together, just maybe to grab a quick lunch, my treat. PM me. I live near downtown, due west and about a mile of the center of the city in a laid back music & arts neartown zone. Both Teach and Alphasig have been there.

    You'll quickly come to the I-610 loop on the west side (you passed I-610 east loop segment incoming).

    After passing I-610 and heading out of town again, you'll be in upscale shopping, hospital districts, and plenty of car dealerships and such for maybe 30 miles. The once teeny western suburb of Katy Tx is now total residential and pricey.

    I don't know how far you're going into Texas but the drive from Houston to San Antonio (about 3 hrs) is a very pleasant and smooth one, nice scenery, rolling hills and farmland, good stuff.

    After SanAntone, it gets flat and straight. You'll eventually see the huge buttes and other "Western movie" scenery but hey, that drive from San Antone to El Paso? Sheer agony, miles and miles of nuttin' but miles and miles.

    And soon as you pass El Paso, hey, you're almost to San Diego!

    Drive safe, pal!

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,666 Senior Member
    Where you going in Texas?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Where you going in Texas?

    That's what I was thinking to ask, because I-10 may not be your friend. Big state lots of routes. You may enjoy something more scenic.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    Well, he need not worry then because he has a FLA CCW. So he can carry it on his person or in the console in Bama, correct?
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  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,262 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Where you going in Texas?

    Austin,visiting family
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    Austin,visiting family

    Head on up the I-35 Corridor to Waco and go see the Texas Ranger Museum, well worth the 2 hour drive.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,669 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Well, he need not worry then because he has a FLA CCW. So he can carry it on his person or in the console in Bama, correct?
    Yessir that is correct.

    I just wanted to correct the information for any other lurkers who may, or may not have a "pistol permit" (what we call them here) from a state with reciprocity with Bama
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  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,262 Senior Member
    Leaving Saturday for Texas, Wife want's a night in Boloxi.On return to Florida we plan to visit our
    Son at Eglin AFB. Thanks all for you info and suggestions
    Bill
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,666 Senior Member
    PM me if you get a free hour or two and want to meet up for a beer. I'm in south austin
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