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Skid Row LA Police Shooting

Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
Well here is another shootin by police............in LA depending on who you believe....he went fer a gun or tried to take the cops or they just shot him. I tend to side with the police, but they won't release the body cam footage so who knows. I'm sure they will sort it out.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4090577106001/new-surveillance-footage-shows-moments-before-lapd-shooting/?#sp=show-clips
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Well here is another shootin by police............in LA depending on who you believe....he went fer a gun or tried to take the cops or they just shot him. I tend to side with the police, but they won't release the body cam footage so who knows. I'm sure they will sort it out.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4090577106001/new-surveillance-footage-shows-moments-before-lapd-shooting/?#sp=show-clips

    It will get released. The investigation is ongoing, and no one can expect them to release evidence prior to a grand jury hearing if that is necessary.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    I've watched the videos several times. There is no way to draw any conclusions from those cell phone videos.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    They need to issue BIG riot sticks and those Slap Jacks they used to carry in their back pockets, one Thump side the noggin.......it was over no need to shoot as much as they do these days. It would actually save some lives, I'm sure of it.

    Society brought a lot of it on with litigation/race-community relations/accusations of racism/police brutality and left a lot of LEOs without the tools they need or the ability to use them without fear of repercussions until it escalates to lethal force which seems easier to justify than puttin a few bumps on the side of their noggins...............I know some may find that hard to understand, but think about it.

    I don't mean a free pass fer cops to do what they want, every incident should be fully investigated, but some bruises and knots is better than a casket any day.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    The rest of the story.......................

    Officials say man shot by LAPD stole Frenchman's identity, was wanted by US Marshals

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/04/officials-say-man-shot-by-lapd-stole-frenchman-identity-was-wanted-by-us/?intcmp=latestnews


    "LOS ANGELES – A homeless man who was killed by Los Angeles police on Skid Row was living under an assumed name and was wanted for violating probation terms for a bank robbery conviction, French and U.S. officials said Tuesday.

    A law enforcement official identified Charley Saturmin Robinet, 39, as the man police shot Sunday. The official wasn't authorized to speak publicly and talked to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

    But Axel Cruau, the consul general for France in Los Angeles, said the man stole the identity of a French citizen and was living in the United States under an assumed name. He had applied for a French passport in the late 1990s to come to the United States to "pursue a career in acting."

    Using the name Robinet, the man was identified as a French national in 2000 when he was convicted of robbing a Wells Fargo branch and pistol-whipping an employee in an effort to pay for acting classes at the Beverly Hills Playhouse.

    That arrest spurred the consulate to provide the man with support, but as he was nearing his release from prison in 2013, officials found another Robinet in France with the same birthdate and discovered the one in the U.S. was an imposter, Cruau said.

    "The real Charley Robinet is in France apparently living a totally normal life and totally unaware his identity had been stolen years and years ago," Cruau said.

    While in federal prison in Rochester, Minnesota, the bank robber known as Robinet was assigned to the mental health unit, and federal officials said medical staff determined he was suffering from "a mental disease or defect" that required treatment in a psychiatric hospital, documents show.

    He served roughly 13 years in prison and then spent six months in a halfway house before being released in May 2014, said Ed Ross, a spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons.

    Foreign nationals are typically deported after serving criminal sentences. But in this case, France would not take the man, since he wasn't really a French citizen. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that immigration authorities could not detain people indefinitely because no country is willing to take them. So once his sentence was served, the man known as Robinet was let free. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Virginia Kice said she couldn't immediately comment on his immigration history.

    Under the terms of the man's release, he was required to provide reports to his probation officer at the beginning of each month, Deputy U.S. Marshal Matthew Cordova said. When he failed to do so in November, December and January, a federal warrant was issued Jan. 9."
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    The rest of the story.......................

    Officials say man shot by LAPD stole Frenchman's identity, was wanted by US Marshals

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/04/officials-say-man-shot-by-lapd-stole-frenchman-identity-was-wanted-by-us/?intcmp=latestnews


    "LOS ANGELES – A homeless man who was killed by Los Angeles police on Skid Row was living under an assumed name and was wanted for violating probation terms for a bank robbery conviction, French and U.S. officials said Tuesday.

    A law enforcement official identified Charley Saturmin Robinet, 39, as the man police shot Sunday. The official wasn't authorized to speak publicly and talked to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

    But Axel Cruau, the consul general for France in Los Angeles, said the man stole the identity of a French citizen and was living in the United States under an assumed name. He had applied for a French passport in the late 1990s to come to the United States to "pursue a career in acting."

    Using the name Robinet, the man was identified as a French national in 2000 when he was convicted of robbing a Wells Fargo branch and pistol-whipping an employee in an effort to pay for acting classes at the Beverly Hills Playhouse.

    That arrest spurred the consulate to provide the man with support, but as he was nearing his release from prison in 2013, officials found another Robinet in France with the same birthdate and discovered the one in the U.S. was an imposter, Cruau said.

    "The real Charley Robinet is in France apparently living a totally normal life and totally unaware his identity had been stolen years and years ago," Cruau said.

    While in federal prison in Rochester, Minnesota, the bank robber known as Robinet was assigned to the mental health unit, and federal officials said medical staff determined he was suffering from "a mental disease or defect" that required treatment in a psychiatric hospital, documents show.

    He served roughly 13 years in prison and then spent six months in a halfway house before being released in May 2014, said Ed Ross, a spokesman for the Bureau of Prisons.

    Foreign nationals are typically deported after serving criminal sentences. But in this case, France would not take the man, since he wasn't really a French citizen. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that immigration authorities could not detain people indefinitely because no country is willing to take them. So once his sentence was served, the man known as Robinet was let free. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Virginia Kice said she couldn't immediately comment on his immigration history.

    Under the terms of the man's release, he was required to provide reports to his probation officer at the beginning of each month, Deputy U.S. Marshal Matthew Cordova said. When he failed to do so in November, December and January, a federal warrant was issued Jan. 9."

    Very interesting.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • shushshush Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Very interesting.


    Not to him it ain't, he's dead and gone.!!!!
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Not to him it ain't, he's dead and gone.!!!!

    Ok?
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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