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Are smartphones making our children mentally ill?

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,392 Senior Member
    I just Do. Not. Understand. why parents give/let their children (have) SmartFones - or cell fones in general. I think they're making the whole population mentally ill for that matter...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,392 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Sure, just like cars, iPads, laptops, microwave ovens and penicillin... :silly:

    Pretty much. I didn't have my first car until I was just shy of 21 - which was the same time I started driving "for real".
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    It is funny to watch kids today. They walk down the street with their nose stuck to the screen of a smartphone. They can type 1,000 words a minute on their iPhone but get Cs in English class. Is it the smartphone's fault? Nope, just like firearms it is the user's (and parents) fault. Big Foot wants to take her school lunch thing as set farther now and weigh and measure kids ... I'd rather see her worry about the effects of smartphones than telling me what and how much to feed my kid. Anything used responsibly is fine but when they let texting/social media posting/etc take up to much of their time yes is does hurt them in quite a few ways.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Hell, we used to kick cans down the road or maybe a ball and look how good I turned out, phones were in phone booths or home on the wall :jester:

    Now I would be challenged to kick a can down the road and more so walk and use a Smartphone at the same time :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

    Too much of anything is bad for you and they do seem to be over saturated with these devices and wrapped up in what folks do and say with them and it does have effects on the young, especially those with problems already.

    I think Smartphones are making some ADULTS mentally ill too, probably more-so!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,392 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Yep, and you turned out just fine :tooth:

    Sho'nuf! :rotflmao:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,392 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I think Smartphones are making some ADULTS mentally ill too, probably more-so!

    Yep!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,490 Senior Member
    As with any technology, there's always those who have this mentality....
    Overkill is underrated.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    What kids are doing is changing their way of communicating which is right in line with upcoming technology. In a few years they will not be typing anymore since voice recognition will allow you to get your thoughts down without having to type. In just a few more years you will also be able to hold a conversation with someone half the world away as if they were standing right next to you without having to "call" them. Letters, grammar, even language and other ancient technologies will slowly be replaced with other means of communications that involve senses and imagery. You won't have to "tell" someone how good your steak tastes, you'll be able to share the actual sensory experience with them. in a few centuries the written word will be as widely understood by the masses as Egyptian hieroglyphs are today :tooth:

    You are correct in the evolution of communications. I would guess many here are like me and remember practicing handwriting in elementary school. My handwriting nothing like the elegant stuff in the 1700s and 1800s however but compared to my kid's it is like caligraphy. Times, they are a changing.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Like that old TV commercial or public service announcement once asked................ What happens when the lights go out?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,281 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    What kids are doing is changing their way of communicating which is right in line with upcoming technology.
    You confuse communication with technology.

    Putting garbage across the web faster is not communication, it is pouring out excessive garbage. Communication is the act of passing information effectively, what most people do with smartphones is far from that. It is passing partial information ineffectively over a extended period of time.

    FYI, I am still waiting for my jet pack.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,004 Senior Member
    What's making them insane is concerning themselves totally in what other people are doing.

    Who cars what so-and-so is doing? I'm playing with guns:)
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    No. As with any technology starting with fire, it is neither bad nor good, but the way in which it is used can make it that way.

    Any technology is beneficial if you use it for your personal goals. If the technology has you by the nose, then that is of course bad.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,146 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    You won't have to "tell" someone how good your steak tastes, you'll be able to share the actual sensory experience with them.

    Hmmm. . .So, I've got this really expensive hunk of Kobe beef on my plate. What will you pay me for an "E-Taste" of it?

    OR. . .

    Will we just end up eating tofu for every meal and download a "Taste Overlay" of sirloin, veggies, and mint chip ice cream?

    And imagine what this would do for SEX!

    As to whether this stuff is making us mentally ill? Nope. Humans have pretty much always been stupid little Ewoks cooing over shiny objects. We're still stupid - the objects have just gotten shinier.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Food fer thought.....................

    Steve Wozniak: The Future of AI Is 'Scary and Very Bad for People'

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/steve-wozniak-future-ai-scary-154700881.html
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,647 Senior Member
    The Atari and the Walkman made me do it......
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    Tough for the kids to get unbalanced by the smart phone if you don't buy them the phone in the first place. Just sayin'!
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Technological advances are a wonderful thing and with this computer age we are in move fast, sometimes too fast even before the full effects (some even ill-effects) and consequences are fully known or even understood.

    Such is life in the fast (now Cyber Space) lane, I reckon.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,392 Senior Member
    Tough for the kids to get unbalanced by the smart phone if you don't buy them the phone in the first place. Just sayin'!

    YES!!!!!!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,004 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »

    And imagine what this would do for SEX!

    You have that backwards. Every tech innovation is pretty much about making the delivery of porn a better experience for the end user. You would be hard pressed to find a technology invention or innovation around digital media/ delivery that is not at its core about delivering smut more efficiently or in a better form.

    Everything else it does is just a bonus
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone.
    Whenever mankind makes great leaps forward in anything, including technology, there are casualties. So what.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,417 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Oh we know, we just think of them as weird (coughzorbacough :tooth:) and we accept that this market segment will just die off like dinosaurs. As I've said before, our target audience are the 2 year olds already savvy on technology :cool2:

    My nieces (8,6,4) don't even understand what life without a personal iPad looks like and I can tell you their level of general knowledge is light years from mine at that age and rivals that of many adults. Communications/computing technoly use, if controlled and guided by good parents, is GREAT!!!!

    At best, this is difficult.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,607 Senior Member
    Tough for the kids to get unbalanced by the smart phone if you don't buy them the phone in the first place. Just sayin'!

    You might also say that it's tough for a criminal to commit a robbery without first being able to get a firearm, but that would be wrong too, as there are many available weapons that could be purchased/stolen at the local hardware store.

    This assumes that the phone is the cause of the imbalance. It is not. Plenty of imbalance back when, long before smartphones, 'violent' cartoons or even cars for that matter. Guns don't cause crime and smartphones don't cause mental health issues.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,281 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Sam nailed it. Good or bad it's still communication. Can not dictate content to anyone else. Just try to keep your own meaningful.
    Yes you can dictate content. Stop accepting garbage as communications. If you turned a paper in to your prof. that was disjointed and illegible, you would get a F. America now accepts "D" level work as OK and it really does affect the bottom line.

    If you are teaching and accepting that this is valid communications BECAUSE the tech makes it easy to do badly does not mean it is communcations. People who have grown up in the age of short quips think that this is the way to impart information and it is a huge waste of time. Man hours wasted because of this acceptance hurts us as a counrty. Great quick example, this morning 7.5 man hours were wasted because a lot of garbage information was passed in snippets of hyroglyphics. Figure at a avg loaded labor rate of 150.00/hr for the 3 OS guys. There were also man hours wasted on multiple tests, and dispatches. The trouble ended up being cust caused and it was repaired by the cust, which we found out AFTER we took the ckt off line to determine why it was "down" IAW the "communication" we recieved.

    I watch the wife do it all of the time. Her co is based out of TX and there is zero FTF communication except for the yearly party. They are all in with the high tech communication thing. If there is a problem, I will watch her text back and forth for hours and then have to keep responding to the same questions for 24 more hours to resolve a problem that could be hashed out in 10 min with a phone call.

    Maybe its because I have been a troubleshooter all of my life and always under the gun to actually accomplish something. I am a linear thinker and if I have to answer the same question over and over again, I know that my time is being wasted. If there is a follow up text, then the whole thing is a waste of time.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
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