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Anybody looking for 45cal barrels 16" for $10

HvyMaxHvyMax Senior MemberSMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
http://blackthorneproducts.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=975 Got a few on the way!!! hope they will hold up to 460 Rowland and 460 S&W in a block or trunion!!!
Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct

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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    That is one heck of a deal!
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Miami, FL almost in the USA ;)Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    I believe you would have to be a machinist to use them. How would you remove that trunion? What would you use it for?

    D
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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    Kinda looks like they would use a barrel nut on the end of a receiver. When I get them I will figure it out. A friend with a lathe is a handy thing to have. I am debating on a grease gunnish design with a barrel nut at the end of the receiver or turning and threading them for a 460 Rowland Mac10 carbine and maybe a 460 S&W AR then who knows what I will come up with after that??? Might need 4-5 more and build a Gatling??? The possibilities are endless when you have tools and inspiration!!!
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    They also have tons of deals on AR kits and uppers as well as other goodies.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    I am only guessing at this point but they were probably made to use on an AR upper maybe using a Suomish, Stennish, M3ish bolt.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Living in a van, down by the river.Posts: 14,034 Senior Member
    Evidently Blackthorne = Hesse = Vulcan.

    I'd stay far, far away from what they're selling.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/449376_Blackthorne_Products.html
    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41761
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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    Evidently Blackthorne = Hesse = Vulcan.

    I'd stay far, far away from what they're selling.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/449376_Blackthorne_Products.html
    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41761

    Yeah I know but if these work out it is an insane low price and if it doesn't I used a CC so they can only screw me around so much.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • shushshush Senior Member This Sceptical Isle.Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    That is one heck of a deal!

    “Brand new .45 ACP barrel is 16" long…”

    Is that the calibre or the cartridge for the barrel?
  • toymachinetoymachine Senior Member Posts: 761 Senior Member
    Evidently Blackthorne = Hesse = Vulcan.

    I'd stay far, far away from what they're selling.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/449376_Blackthorne_Products.html
    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41761

    Yeah, I probably wouldn't buy a finished upper from them, based on what I've read. That said, I did buy an AR barrel from them, and the extension hasn't loosened or the FSB hasn't lost it's pins. It's a gamble, just depends on whether it's worth it to the person laying down the money. Be sure to thoroughly inspect anything you buy before use, but that's a good idea generally. I've bought a few items from them because the price was right, everything's always showed up. Not necessarily the highest quality, but pretty much what I expected for the price.

    To those that have ordered these barrels, please post pics when they show up. I'm just curious at this point, not too worried if I do miss out on the deal, but there are a couple other items I might be interested in if they're still around when I get ready to order. Thanks
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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    “Brand new .45 ACP barrel is 16" long…”

    Is that the calibre or the cartridge for the barrel?
    It's a 16" barrel chambered for 45acp. It appears to have some kind of attaching point at the rear where something like a barrel nut would hold it up against the end of a receiver. maybe somebody was planning a run of M3 carbines or something. For that price the possibilities are endless. Some lathe time and a few chamber reamers and they can become almost anything that hurls a 45 caliber projectile.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • toymachinetoymachine Senior Member Posts: 761 Senior Member
    Wonder what the twist rate is.
    .650 Outside diameter, roughly .45 inside diameter. About a tenth of an inch wall thickness. Hmm....
    Unless my math or reasoning is off, that is. Just seems a bit thin, esp. for the higher pressure rounds.
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  • shushshush Senior Member This Sceptical Isle.Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    Unknown barrel specification.

    .45 ACP (21,000 psi)

    .460 Rowland (40,000 psi)

    .460 S&W (65,000 psi)
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Unknown barrel specification.

    .45 ACP (21,000 psi)

    .460 Rowland (40,000 psi)

    .460 S&W (65,000 psi)

    Frequently a 45 acp can just be reamed to 460 Rowland depending on many factors. For the 460 S&W I would mount the chamber end in a block or trunnion of some sort that would reinforce it exponentially. The worst the Rowland upgrade would need would be a sleeve on the chamber which should be fine with what I am planning which includes threading and adding a lug where the barrel buts to the receiver I could easily extend a sleeve off of it that should be more than sufficient to reinforce the chamber.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member In the sticks, OHPosts: 5,617 Senior Member
    Hmm. Cut the trunion off, make of of Tennmike' s single shot specials in 454 or 460....
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Dellrose TNPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Look at the ad- - - - -I wouldn't trust that thinwall tube with anything hotter than a Cowboy Action load! Did P.T. Barnum design those things?
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Rather than a stand alone barrel, those things seem to be more in the line of a barrel sleeve to be press fit, soldered, epoxied, or otherwise fit inside a reinforcement sleeve. They are way too thin for using as is, and a .460 Rowland or .460 S&W would explode those things into a nice banana peel shape. I'm not all that sure that they would survive a .45ACP round. Wile E. Coyote wouldn't use them as is, even if they came from the Acme catalog.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Dellrose TNPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
    In other words, they're just perfect for Max to play around with!
    :jester:
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    In other words, they're just perfect for Max to play around with!
    :jester:
    Jerry

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  • shushshush Senior Member This Sceptical Isle.Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    ........Wile E. Coyote wouldn't use them as is, even if they came from the Acme catalog.



    If old W E could acquire or make a couple sets of these;





    He may be able to make a pair of these;


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    And be a proper highwayman.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    If old W E could acquire or make a couple sets of these;





    He may be able to make a pair of these;


    02leftside.jpg


    And be a proper highwayman.

    Those pistols were offered over here in the '70s and into the '80s, but I forget who imported/made them. Both of the ones sold in the States had a habit of burning the trigger finger from sparks and escaping fire from the nipple. The trigger guard/spring also had a habit of 'walking out of its slot in the hammer. There is still a rifle kit for sale here in the States.

    http://www.longrifles-pr.com/underhammer.shtml

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  • shushshush Senior Member This Sceptical Isle.Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Proper cursing follows proper form, and separates the acolyte from the master. :rotflmao:


    A flintlock would be out of the question then? :jester:

    Ah!.......... A swivel, underbarrel pinfire..............

    Come on work with me.

    The bloody barrels are on the way. :head:
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    A flintlock would be out of the question then? :jester:

    Ah!.......... A swivel, underbarrel pinfire..............

    Come on work with me.

    The bloody barrels are on the way. :head:

    I like the idea of a swivel barrel caplock rifle. Take two 15/16" across the flats .58 cal. barrels and drill/ream them to take the .45 cal. barrels. That would make a short, not so heavy, two shot rifle for hunting thick cover.

    And a flintlock volley gun would be oh so sweet!

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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member A true 'Southerner'. NZPosts: 8,401 Senior Member
    Doesn't matter what the barrels are like....................we need VIDEO of the first couple of firings............
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    They are supposed to be here Thursday so I will figure it out. They will probably need a trunion or block of some kind but for the price I just can't help but be inspired.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member A true 'Southerner'. NZPosts: 8,401 Senior Member
    HvyMax wrote: »
    They are supposed to be here Thursday so I will figure it out. They will probably need a trunion or block of some kind but for the price I just can't help but be inspired.

    I just hope you don't get 'blown away' by how cheap they are....................
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Not quite as inexpensive, but Green Mountain sells unturned blanks for $50 or so. The price is right for someone with access to a lathe and likes to tinker.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Not quite as inexpensive, but Green Mountain sells unturned blanks for $50 or so. The price is right for someone with access to a lathe and likes to tinker.

    I just happen to have two of those Green Mountain .45 cal. blanks 24" x 1 1/8" sitting in the living room waiting on me to turn them down and fit them to an action. Single shot .45 Colt bolt action is the plan. Woo Hoo!
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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member SMIBville(Southern MD)Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    Mine are here. Seems to be amazingly well done for what I don't know. Beautiful weld machined and the flange as well. Now to figure out what to make with them.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
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