Well, That's not going to work... (SxS 45-70)

bullsi1911

After many trials and tribulations, mis-shipped rings, returns, lost orders, and two trips to Cabela's, I finally got the Weaver Kaspa 1x scope mounted up to the Bakail/ Remington/ EAA/USSG Side by Side 45-70. And the setup looks really cool:



Yeah, it looks really good:


But... After getting the eye relief set, and messing around with it for a while, I am not a fan of this:



The barrels and front sight block off almost half of the field of view. Plus, the scope overhangs the breach enough that it is hard to get the empties out, and the fresh cartridges back in. Damnit, that was a lot of work to get something I just don't like.

Thinking I might put the Primary Arms micro-red dot off my AK pistol on this for a fast sight. Won't look nearly as cool, but will probably be much more usable. Any suggestions on an 11mm to picatinny rail adapter?

snake284

bullsi1911 wrote: »

After many trials and tribulations, mis-shipped rings, returns, lost orders, and two trips to Cabela's, I finally got the Weaver Kaspa 1x scope mounted up to the Bakail/ Remington/ EAA/USSG Side by Side 45-70. And the setup looks really cool:



Yeah, it looks really good:


But... After getting the eye relief set, and messing around with it for a while, I am not a fan of this:



The barrels and front sight block off almost half of the field of view. Plus, the scope overhangs the breach enough that it is hard to get the empties out, and the fresh cartridges back in. Damnit, that was a lot of work to get something I just don't like.

Thinking I might put the Primary Arms micro-red dot off my AK pistol on this for a fast sight. Won't look nearly as cool, but will probably be much more usable. Any suggestions on an 11mm to picatinny rail adapter?

Yeah true, but actually you have plenty of practical field of view. Think about this, this scope is one power, in other words it has no magnification. So what you see will be the same with any sight, unless you would install a higher magnification. It's the same view you would have without a scope.

As for manipulating loading, I think practice is the key. Think about this, a bolt action with a scope poses similar problems if not on ejection, on loading. Does this rifle have true ejectors, or only extractors? In other words does it throw the spent shells out when you open the action? Or does it just pull them back about a quarter to a half inch where you can grab them and pull them out? If it has true ejectors, have you tried it yet? If they're only extractors I don't know what to tell you except what I said about practice.

I personally think you have a potential winner here as is. Just need some adjustment time. Either that or figure out how to attach a scout scope. As for rails. EWG or is it EGW has some nice ones. They ain't cheap but not prohibitively expensive. I think it was Jayhawker that turned me on to them, so maybe he can chime in here and get the name right or suggest something better.

sakodude

Yes it does look cool and yes, the FOV kind of sucks on those kaspa 1x's. I bought one and it ended up on an old single shot .22 because I could not find anything else I liked it on.

Sako

toymachine

Got a 3-9x scope laying around? A little magnification will help those obstructions out front disappear. Maybe a long eye relief pistol or scout scope, so you can move it forward a bit to clear the breech area. Just a couple ideas, to help maintain the look. YMMV.

I think Snake is talking about Evolution Gun Works. I haven't dealt with them myself, but I've heard good things.

snake284

Re read my post, I edited it some.

Bigslug

bullsi1911 wrote: »

. . .the scope overhangs the breach enough that it is hard to get the empties out, and the fresh cartridges back in. . .

If you haven't killed it with two rounds of .45-70, sepukku/hara-kiri is probably more necessary than a quick reload.:jester:

The two things that most bug me about the one I bought for my dad were:

1. The automatic safety (easy surgery took care of that).

2. Extractors instead of ejectors - especially since the springs in the gun default to holding the barrels and receiver of the open action at such an angle that the cases don't come out easily. Best tactic is to hold the gun fully open with both hands and chuck the empties over your shoulder. Scope or no, getting fresh ones loaded in a hurry is not as quick as it could be because the gun doesn't want to stay fully open without help.

Love the gun, but aside from caliber, it's not fully optimized as a dangerous game rig.

CHIRO1989

I know you don't like the blocked view on the bottom 1/2 of the scope, but how does it come up to your shoulder? Start in the low position and touch a couple off before you punt on it.

NN

Ask jbohio to come down there and test fire it to see if the scope is mounted right.

BigDanS

I promise you that scope is too far back on the mount and you know how I already know this.

I suggest you move it up about 1.5 inches.

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timc

You sound like me when I was going through what I wanted for optics on mine!
This is how I started and it didn't work well for me....


So I went with this Burris fastfire which works really well and am happy with it...

JasonMPD

I need one of these, sans scope.

jbohio

cpj wrote: »

EGW is good kit.

NN wrote: »

Ask jbohio to come down there and test fire it to see if the scope is mounted right.

Uh, no. I already know how that's going to turn out. Bloody.

That rifle needs something with 4-5" eye relief.

Gene L

A scope on a double rifle is just wrong. It says so in the Scriptures.

DanChamberlain

Get a shotgun/slug gun scope. Longer eye relief.