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Baltimore crime increasing, police stay away

Here's an article from the local CBS affiliate about how crime is increasing in west Baltimore, more murders and shootings and other crimes rampant. And the police simply not taking any preventive or followup actions.
This is exactly what I thought would happen. The average street cop, and let's assume the cop is a straight-arrow good and decent cop, is afraid that taking any action might be considered "illegal" by the city leadership and will be charged with some sort of trumped up socially correct crime.
So police are simply driving by and not stopping to deal with street thugs. Each time they exit their cars in certain areas, a mob surrounds them, too. So why bother? Just cruise along and ignore trouble. If you don't do anything you can't be charged for excessive force.
People living in west Baltimore who complained about over-policing and too much cop presence are now finding out the consequences: No cops at all. The rank and file cops there seem to have gotten the message from their leadership and administration: Anything you do might be construed as wrong and find yourself charged. Leaders there shouldn't be surprised at the expected reaction.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/28/baltimore-residents-fearful-amid-rash-of-homicides/
This is exactly what I thought would happen. The average street cop, and let's assume the cop is a straight-arrow good and decent cop, is afraid that taking any action might be considered "illegal" by the city leadership and will be charged with some sort of trumped up socially correct crime.
So police are simply driving by and not stopping to deal with street thugs. Each time they exit their cars in certain areas, a mob surrounds them, too. So why bother? Just cruise along and ignore trouble. If you don't do anything you can't be charged for excessive force.
People living in west Baltimore who complained about over-policing and too much cop presence are now finding out the consequences: No cops at all. The rank and file cops there seem to have gotten the message from their leadership and administration: Anything you do might be construed as wrong and find yourself charged. Leaders there shouldn't be surprised at the expected reaction.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/28/baltimore-residents-fearful-amid-rash-of-homicides/
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They still pale in comparison to Chicago in # of shooting/killings. The feds should start there.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Hey, they voted for it, Democrat liberals running the show for 50 years. Now coming home to roost. And I don't blame the street cops one bit.
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Is that Whitworth, BSF or BSC thread ?
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Jerry
Rush Limbaugh had a funny post today -- in San Francisco, black women are only 8% of the population but account for nearly half of all arrests of females. He joked that SF cops are therefore racist.
There is always a cry about all the black with prison records or still incarcerated, far more than the percent of blacks in the population. But if you check the stats, blacks commit far greater percent of felonies than whites. And the percent in jail or prison is about the same as the percent that commit the crime.
If you can't do the time... etc.
And no, I'm NOT prejudiced against blacks or Hispanics or polkadotted Martians. I honestly don't give a damn what someone looks like. I am however cognizant of a far greater percent of blacks who are involved in illegal stuff. And I think that most reasonable people think the same.
How to prevent this? Don't use crack or sell it or steal or rob or beat up people. Spend your time reading to your children after you've worked a solid 8hr shift. Spend time playing ball with your friends or kids and don't hang on street corners and do drugs. Duh.
In Chicago, it seems like it's the thugs/dealers shooting rival thugs/dealers. Perhaps the city should start a free ammo day for warring gangs. To be used against convicted felons/gang members only.
They should quit and let the liberal politicians try to keep order. These crooked jackwagons deserve exactly what's happening.
Jerry
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/baltimore-cops-on-why-they-took-over-and-why-theyre-no-1707550890
http://finance.yahoo.com/video/chicago-mayor-calls-stronger-gun-002947724.html
- George Orwell
Can that guy run for President, PLEASE???
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
― Douglas Adams
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
The cops are apparently doing the job that they were asked to by the mayor and lead prosecutor: Don't mess with the lawbreakers, let them have their "space" for destruction. Works for me.
Yep. If the widely-held ghetto perception of police is that they are part of the problem, it makes good sense to give the residents a glimpse of what their humble home will be like completely without the Thin Blue Line. Let the emmer effer burn, and see what Sharpton makes of THAT.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
- George Orwell
And where did you find this statement?
Apparently I inferred it from what has previously happened. Seeing a clear text statement is like wanting to see a clear text statement from Hillary Clinton "I changed or influenced State Dept policy after donors contributed to the Clinton Foundation" -- no actual text but inferred by such as this:
Rawlings-Blake (Baltimore mayor) used the phrase in a press conference last weekend while describing the balance between policing and giving peaceful protesters the space to share their message. "It’s a very delicate balancing act," she said. "Because while we tried to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well."
And it's clear from reporting that during the riots, Baltimore police were told to essentially stand down and let the "protestors" have their avenue.
So the Baltimore cops are essentially taking the hint and not responding to street problems that they once were pro-active about.
Maybe you've not read the press reports or stories otherwise on the rioting and the response by Baltimore leaders.
Riot gear and quasi-military vehicles notwithstanding, many west Baltimore residents are learning what the absence of police is like. Chaos. Let 'em stew is my opinion.
And of course you have people that are paying for the police to do nothing. Tax dollars at work.
Gun violence is up more than 60% compared with this time last year, according to Baltimore police, with 32 shootings over Memorial Day weekend. May has been the most violent month the city has seen in 15 years.
In Milwaukee, homicides were up 180% … Through April, shootings in St. Louis were up 39%, robberies 43%, and homicides 25%. “Crime is the worst I’ve ever seen it,” said St. Louis Alderman Joe Vacarro at a May 7 City Hall hearing.
Murders in Atlanta were up 32%… Shootings in Chicago had increased 24% and homicides 17%. Shootings and other violent felonies in Los Angeles had spiked by 25%; in New York, murder was up nearly 13%, and gun violence 7%. …
Shooting incidents are up 500% in an East Harlem precinct compared with last year; in a South Central Los Angeles police division, shooting victims are up 100%.