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Weed is okay, but stack rocks is not?

centermass556centermass556 Senior MemberPosts: 3,534 Senior Member
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/boulder-cops-declare-rock-stacking-a-jailable-offense-to-stop-local-artist-who-spent-7-years-creating-sculptures/

Michael Grab, a Boulder artist who goes by the name Gravity Glue, said that police threatened to ticket or jail him for creating stacked river rock sculptures that the community has been enjoying for years.

In a Monday Facebook post, Grab explained that a Boulder police officer had informed him that there would be stiff penalties for continuing his art.

“For the past 7 years i have been creating this art in and around Boulder, Colorado, USA. nearly every day!” he wrote. “[J]ust this weekend, one police officer has decided that balancing rocks in Boulder, Colorado is now illegal, obscurely referencing two city codes [5-4-8 and 5-4-2] about ‘destruction of public property’ in relation to rocks.”

“So now the police have belligerently taken it upon themselves to write tickets and/or arrest ANYONE balancing rocks in Boulder, CO. and specifically threatened to ticket me and/or arrest me if they catch me in the future,” the artist lamented. “ encourage as many people as possible (especially locals) to contact the city council here in Boulder and voice your support for this long standing tradition in Boulder. t is something that an overwhelming portion of the community supports.”
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,142 Senior Member
    Some things just do not make any sense
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,372 Senior Member
    Boulder is a strange, strange place. All logic need to be checked at the city limits. Just a flavor of the lunacy: Boulder has a "Zero growth" policy it you want to build a house, first you got to buy an old one and tear it down for the land. Then build......as long as you didn't buy an "historic" one. For laughs just
    http://m.trulia.com/real_estate/Boulder-Colorado/
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    The story is updated and the City Attorney has told the Boulder Police they should not cite him under that ordinance. Somebody had a little shot of smarts.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Contrast to Baltimore. Someone needs to tell people there is a "happy medium", not all the way one way or the other...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    He'd better watch it! Moving rocks around in a stream or river bed will have the EPA all over him like a wet wool blanket! Moving those rocks around might be construed as dredging by the 'brain trust' at the EPA! :silly:

    http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/publications/assistance/sectors/constructmyer/myer1c_dredgeandfill.pdf
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,372 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Good grief! I own a almost 400,000 dollar house! In Boulder. Maybe I can pack it in a trailer and move it out there!
    Real estate in Boulder is STUPID expensive.
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,576 Senior Member
    The Boulder cops got a beef from someone. They don't (in my experience) look to cite a guy on rock sculpture, if that's what it is.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,372 Senior Member
    Trespassing, maybe. I got a ticket in Boulder for not setting the parking brake once.......
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    He'd better watch it! Moving rocks around in a stream or river bed will have the EPA all over him like a wet wool blanket! Moving those rocks around might be construed as dredging by the 'brain trust' at the EPA! :silly:

    http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/publications/assistance/sectors/constructmyer/myer1c_dredgeandfill.pdf

    I read very little of this hog wash. The more you read the thicker it gets, and rightly so, it mirrors the thickness of the authors's heads.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Elk creek wrote: »
    Real estate in Boulder is STUPID expensive.

    Boulder is the LIBTARD BASTION of Colorado.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,372 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Boulder,and the Denver metro area is the LIBTARD BASTION of Colorado.
    FIFY:tooth:
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    I read very little of this hog wash. The more you read the thicker it gets, and rightly so, it mirrors the thickness of the authors's heads.

    You might want to keep up a little better. That mud puddle in your yard may soon become "navigable waters of the U.S.", and that drainage ditch on either side of the road, and all kinds of other screwy stuff. That is, unless you want the EPA to crawl up your six and set up camp, and fine you into bankruptcy for messin' with their navigable waters of the U.S.

    Read it and weep:

    http://naco.org/legislation/Documents/Waters-of-the-US-County-Analysis.pdf
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    ― Douglas Adams
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    You might want to keep up a little better. That mud puddle in your yard may soon become "navigable waters of the U.S.", and that drainage ditch on either side of the road, and all kinds of other screwy stuff. That is, unless you want the EPA to crawl up your six and set up camp, and fine you into bankruptcy for messin' with their navigable waters of the U.S.

    Read it and weep:

    http://naco.org/legislation/Documents/Waters-of-the-US-County-Analysis.pdf

    No I get really depressed reading about some of the things these agencies spew forth with. I know, after working in a Nuke Plant you have had dealings with many of these agencies and maybe OSHA. I've told about my experiences with OSHA here and I'm still shaking my head. I'm doing all I can to fight this idiocy now, at the ballot box, but there's too many idiots out there voting for Libtards that create this kind of madness. As I've told everybody here, this place is getting beyond help. In other words an election I don't believe will fix it. The majority of people in the US are beyond help. There's too many fools been brainwashed. Anyway, I pretty well know what's going on and it scares hell out of me.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • LanceLance Member Posts: 149 Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    The Boulder cops got a beef from someone. They don't (in my experience) look to cite a guy on rock sculpture, if that's what it is.

    Yep. He probably pissed somebody with a few connections off so they sent one of their PD buddies over to do their dirty work.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Elk creek wrote: »
    Trespassing, maybe. I got a ticket in Boulder for not setting the parking brake once.......

    Damn, I was pissed when I got a ticket in Richmond, VA for parking over 12" from the curb. Funny thing is I had a flat tire and pulled over to change it and left a little room to work. The spare was also down and I thought I was lucky and took the flat to be repaired to a tire shop I had passed a few blocks back. Came back and there was a ticket.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,372 Senior Member
    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    Damn, I was pissed when I got a ticket in Richmond, VA for parking over 12" from the curb. Funny thing is I had a flat tire and pulled over to change it and left a little room to work. The spare was also down and I thought I was lucky and took the flat to be repaired to a tire shop I had passed a few blocks back. Came back and there was a ticket.
    In 1995 I parked an old work truck(84 Chevy 1/2 ton) on a city street to make a delivery on electrical supplies. Went in the job site, came out and the truck had rolled into another car. The bumper was resting on the hood of the other car with NO damage. The "hippie" cussed me out worse than any sailor could have and called the cops to "have me arrested for destruction of property and false imprisonment" for "trapping her in without freedom of movement" She was probably going to be a lawyer. the cop gets there and looked at everything and asked her if I backed into her and she said I left the truck and it trapped her in. And I got the only $15 ticket I had to got to court over.....
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Been in Boulder a few times, a somewhat odd populace, half hippie and half survivalist in some ways.
  • mohicanmohican Member Posts: 381 Member
    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/boulder-cops-declare-rock-stacking-a-jailable-offense-to-stop-local-artist-who-spent-7-years-creating-sculptures/

    Michael Grab, a Boulder artist who goes by the name Gravity Glue, said that police threatened to ticket or jail him for creating stacked river rock sculptures that the community has been enjoying for years.

    In a Monday Facebook post, Grab explained that a Boulder police officer had informed him that there would be stiff penalties for continuing his art.

    “For the past 7 years i have been creating this art in and around Boulder, Colorado, USA. nearly every day!” he wrote. “[J]ust this weekend, one police officer has decided that balancing rocks in Boulder, Colorado is now illegal, obscurely referencing two city codes [5-4-8 and 5-4-2] about ‘destruction of public property’ in relation to rocks.”

    “So now the police have belligerently taken it upon themselves to write tickets and/or arrest ANYONE balancing rocks in Boulder, CO. and specifically threatened to ticket me and/or arrest me if they catch me in the future,” the artist lamented. “ encourage as many people as possible (especially locals) to contact the city council here in Boulder and voice your support for this long standing tradition in Boulder. t is something that an overwhelming portion of the community supports.”

    Why anyone would be surprised by this level of horsesqueeze and duplicity is beyond me.
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