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Glock 19 Concealed Carry

Yulee BoyYulee Boy MemberPosts: 37 Member
Good Morning Gents!
I am very close to making a purchase on a Glock 19 probably Gen 3. My intent is to have a very simple, very reliable, high capacity pistol that I can conceal but that can still be fairly accurate at longer ranges. I have a pocket gun and I have a full size. I'm really wanting the middle ground.

My question is for those who have had experience with concealing the 19 in particular. How difficult is it to conceal? Is it more the height and length that cause issues or the width? And have any of you tried appendix carry with it?

For reference, I'm 6'0" 195lbs and I live in the south. So summers means shorts and a polo. Thanks for any input!!
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I currently carry a Glock 17, in an OWB holster, 1:00 or 2:00 or 3:00, and it conceals easily, then I am not that worried, no LEO has ever hassled me for printing anyway...

    The Glock 19 conceals well, consider the sub compact Glock 26, neither model is a pocket gun by any means, both are better suited for conventional holster on a belt carry.

    With the sub compact Glock 26, you can use the Glock 26 magazines or the Glock 19 magazines, installing a spacer that makes the grip area of the Glock 26 the same size as a Glock 19, and you can still use all the other magazines, such as Glock 17, or Glock 18, 30 round magazines.

    You get the best of all worlds with the Glock 26 as it passes for a sub compact model completing the family, the full size Glock 17,.. and the medium 19, the sub compact Glock 26, as it accepts magazines of all the other double column 9mm models.......yet it's just as accurate as it's larger brothers.

    Yes , for overall versatility, and ease of carry, the Glock 26 is the big winner......however, If you prefer a single column slim profile 9mm, then the Glock 43 is something to consider, however, you will lose the versatility of being able to use an entire series of double column 9mm magazines......

    Go to your stocking LGS and heft and compare the Glock 26, the Glock 19,. the Glock 17,. So you can get a better idea, best idea is to shoot them all.

    A good quality IWB holster, a good quality belt, and you can still wear shorts and a sports shirt as a cover garment...

    BTW, and FYI, although some folks really prefer a Gen lll, you don't save any money on a Gen lll over a Gen lV, you get an extra magazine and the improved captured recoil spring with a Gen lV..... a better value overall IMHO..
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,561 Senior Member
    I just got this for appendix carrying a Glock 19/23.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/781054/511-appendix-inside-the-waistband-holster-right-hand-glock-19-23-26-27-kydex-black?cm_vc=wishList

    Very comfortable and seems to work decently. Nobody at the grocery store freaked out last night. I wore shorts and a T-Shirt with this holster. Only portion that ever so slightly printed was the butt of the gun.

    It's an option for you.
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Wow, Doc, an excellent writeup on Glock 9mils. I'm not a 9mm fan but the info you gave is still superb.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,396 Senior Member
    I differ with Doc on the Glock 26/27. I consider them to be too thick for the pocket holster carry I'd like to do with a gun of those general dimensions, and if I'm going to have to carry it on my hip with a shirt thrown over it, I want to be looking more at serious fighting guns that still conceal just fine with that method.

    The 17/22 can be carried fine that way if you're a larger guy, but the 19/23 with the slightly shorter butt is probably the better all-around compromise. It still holds a bunch of ammo and can still mount a light.

    The Gen 4 has a very slightly smaller grip than the Gen 3 when none of the add-on backstraps are installed. Since double stacks are pretty much all too fat for a really proper grip with folks that don't play in the NBA, this is attractive. The improved recoil spring of the Gen 4 is mainly an upgrade for the .40 caliber - which was mainly an wear and tear issue in the older 22. In the 9mm's, not nearly as much a concern.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Nobody freaked out because nobody noticed, printing is not the bugbear everybody claims it to be, I have been fielding a Glock 17 in a OWB holster that prints even bulges, yet no LEO has given me a second glance.

    I will not lose any sleep over it.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,616 Senior Member
    I also agree with bigslug and knite poet. In fact, when I had a Glock 28, it was difficult to carry in a holster because the barrel was so short the handle wanted to lean to the starboard without the longer barrel to hold it in place. I also had a 23 which was easier to carry.

    If you wear cargo pants, you can probably carry one of the sub-compact Glocks, uncomfortably in your pocket.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Who advocated pocket carry or pocket holster carry anyway ?
    I sure did not.
    I am sure I never have.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I look like a fat overweight retired LEO anyway, why would they bother me?
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    This is true.....
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,889 Senior Member
    Not carried a Glock 19 but I have carried 1911s and 4" revolvers in the K, L, and N-frame sizes in Florida, so what I say may or may not be applicable.....

    First, I prefer to carry IWB. With shorts and an untucked t-shirt, I don't have an issue concealing the handgun IF MY CLOTHES ARE PROPERLY SIZED. That means pants big enough to comfortably fit the handgun inside my waistband, and a shirt 1-2 sizes larger to allow sufficient "hang" to cover the firearm without printing. Patterns are good as they mask any printing.

    In a holster I like a sweat guard to both protect the firearm and to act as a bit of a spacer to make grasping the handgun easier. I also prefer molded leather or kydex, and tend to prefer holsters that stay somewhat open after drawing the weapon so I can reholster with only one hand. Likewise I prefer a stiff belt to keep things in place.

    You say your height and weight, but what's your build? In my experience folks who are more pear-shaped will tend to have a harder time carrying a handgun than those who are shaped like an apple, tube, or inverted triangle: the clothing on pear shaped folks gets pulled over the gun more and prints as compared to those who the other body shapes. Yeah, I know some don't carry about printing, but in some circles it matters, and I figured concealed means concealed.

    No opinion on appendix carry. I will say that I'm not a fan of subcompacts in general unless they're single-stack. To my mind if you're carrying a subcompact double-stack you've got no barrel or grip but all the girth of a compact, full-size, or midsize, but lose the advantages. IWB I've not had an issue with barrel or butt length. In a subcompact single-stack you can pocket carry some models and that makes sense.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Very good points, maybe a bit of trial & error is needed so each individual can see how things fit etc....
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    For the clothes I wear, i pocket carry a 431 PD and it is so incredibly comfortable I forget it it there. I dislike in or out of waistband carry. A G19 is a very good gun, and when I carry it it is almost always OWB. I carry all my Glocks OWB. I will carry my Makarov IWB.
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  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    If you have the option to get a Gen 4, I'd go that route. To me, my Gen 4 just feels a bit better than my Gen 3s. I occasionally carry my 19 or 17, but 95% of the time I'm carrying my 17A. I prefer the longer slide with the shorter grip and since I'm concealing the light anyway, the extra slide length doesn't really matter.

    There might be some in here that you find useful...
    http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/search?location=north-carolina&category=guns&tag=9mm-luger&tag=glock


    BTW, you've got IM.
  • Yulee BoyYulee Boy Member Posts: 37 Member
    Thank you for all the good info! I've looked at other Glocks in different sizes and different calibers. But I've settled on the 19 honestly more out of the "want it factor" than anything. I've carried aiwb with smaller guns and loved it, but never anything G19 size or bigger so I'm just not sure if I'll have issues. My shoulders and chest are bigger than my waist and hips so I naturally have a decent amount of space under my shirt in the front to hide something. That's why I'm drawn to aiwb.

    I would like to know if anyone has experience with the Gen 4s specifically? I know a few of you suggested them, but I heard that the new recoil spring was causing reliability issues when they first came out. Has that been resolved? That was my primary reason for looking at Gen 3. I like the Gen 4 better from just my limited experience, but I'm not about to risk sacrificing reliability.
    "There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." - George Washington
  • Gator MonroeGator Monroe Banned Posts: 655 Senior Member
    I carry and drive with my Gen 3 G19 DEEP IWB @ 5:30 all the time (Even long drives) and it carries as easy as my WW2 USGI 1911A1 did ... and though its wider than the 1911 its far lighter and I'm comfortable with the Glock now and rarely carry the WW2 "War Trophy" ...
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    It's more of a matter of whether you can stand the weight, and for how long, than whether you can conceal it. I carried a 4" XD45, 12 hours a day, for years, IWB. But, as I got older and fatter, the weight started to give me a chronic backache, so I started practicing with subcompacts, and eventually became confident enough to carry them.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    There were no reliability issues with the Gen lV, the captured recoil spring up to handling the stress of .40 S&W proved too strong for weaker 9mm loads and was adjusted accordingly.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,982 Senior Member
    From what I understand the early Gen 4 9mm's used a recoil spring assembly tuned for a .40, which led to feeding issues. Even if you get a used one that has those issues, I believe that Glock will take care of it.

    As a side note, the G19 is a great carry gun. I carried one for awhile with zero issues. I want to love Glocks, especially since they are so easy to work on, but I just can't hold on to one to save my life. I would spend another $150 making one what my M&P Pro Series already is.


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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Too strong a recoil spring does not cause a failure to feed, it causes a failure to extract, (with lower power ammo) due to slowing of the slides rear-ward motion, sometimes an incomplete motion, if the spring is really too strong and really low power ammo is used.
    Feeding per say, is not a problem (with an unobstructed chamber) with too strong a recoil spring, because you have plenty of forward inertia and momentum.

    Glock has already established which serial numbers are affected and will send out a replacement recoil spring to the owners of those guns.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 7,415 Senior Member
    I carry a Glock 23 in a right side 3:30-4:00 position with an extra 22 mag on the support side 10:00. I carry in a "pancake" style holster not too far from this:


    I have a short sleeve button shirt over it for concealment. Carried it that way since 2001 no problems. It it shows if you don't make a deal out of it neither will anyone else. I could care less if it prints. Most people don't pay that much attention to life to notice my pistol or me for that matter.
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • 41magnut41magnut Senior Member Posts: 1,270 Senior Member
    http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-bccw2012-covert-shirt.html

    I have found these shirt to be excellent in warm weather. If you don't mind the shirt tail out Cabana type causal shirt.

    No "black ops" type of features such as extraneous pockets, zippers or such.

    Looks very much like the Cabana Shirts that I buy from J C Penney's which I also recommend.

    http://www.jcpenney.com/st-johns-bay-short-sleeve-crosshatch-woven-shirt/prod.jump?ppId=pp5004410124&searchTerm=st+john%27s+bay+mem%27s+shirts&catId=SearchResults&_dyncharset=UTF-8&colorizedImg=DP0815201417035982M.tif

    Glock 19, H&K USPc 40, in a Don Hume 721 is my leather of choice.

    http://www.donhume.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_366_141&products_id=42&zenid=5icum9e01a31olmsg9o37dp9j3

    I have bought the J C Penny shirts as low as $10.00 during sales.

    I do not consider either of these, "shoot me first", designs or appearances. I have never been called out while wearing either of these
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,567 Senior Member
    Galco Matrix 7x OWB. Easy on and off, good retention, very light weight, can carry all three sizes Glock.
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