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shootbrownelk
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Murdered journalist's father is anti-gun zealot.
The father of the murdered journalist vows to get "reasonable & common sense" gun laws passed. I'll just bet O'bummer wet himself when he heard about the father's rant in an interview. I'm sorry for his loss, but it was a mentally ill person who killed his daughter, not a gun. If the madman had used a car to run her over, would he want Buicks banned. He's vowed to take on the NRA as well. His grief and anger are misplaced.
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The take on guns I heard him say was not gun control, but, was better control of keeping the guns out of the hands on people with mental illness.
Each report that references his statement starts out with the father is against guns because it is sensational not true.
Yep, gun grabbers see their chance now and have a grieving poster dad to exploit. Lets face it, what the hard core gun grabbers want is NO guns of any kind owned by any citizen for any reason and they keep shamelessly chipping away at our 2nd A in any way they can. Even if they get laws passed that had nothing to with or would have prevented the killings they rant about.
They claim these "Common Sense" gun laws are wanted by most Americans...........they lie, as usual.
You wait Obammy will have the poor father in the WH surrounded by butt kissing police chiefs or ones who were forced to go showing support for whatever scheme he will try and shame Congress to pass into law.
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Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
The problem is no law or no proposed law could have kept the gun out of the hands of the shooter. I don't think the father has a political agenda, I think he's just pissed. All "common-sense" safeguards were in place and acting. The guy was crazy and had a system of values that were divorced from reality.
A good video either on Youtube or Netflix is "The Virgin Killer." A rich white kid filmed himself in detail and his thoughts before killing several people because he couldn't get laid. In the only other interaction he filmed, a woman at a park, he seemed quite normal. It was his fault he couldn't get a girlfriend; he was a nice-looking kid but devoid of personality. And very cold. But he blamed the world instead of himself.
But, the majority of loons who buy guns do so legally, and I can't think of a way to prevent it short of denying everyone. Needless to say, I'm against that.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
HaHaHaHaHa!!! I love Greg Gutfeld, but where the hell did he get that name?????_____:roll2:
Yeah I saw Jeraldo's Rant a while ago. I kinda like Jeraldo, but he's got too much sleezeball Lawyer in him.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I agree. That's why I've said before, The constitution should rule. It's just a fact of life that there's always going to be crazies out there and there will be some incidents like this, ours is not a perfect world. You can't legislate something like this 100% without violating some people's rights given by the Constitution. And violating our rights should NOT be an option. When people go to vote, this should be foremost in their mind. That this is not a perfect world, but it's a lot more perfect with the Constitution in tact. And they should vote for people that will keep it like that.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
No priest confidentiality, either, although priests are never imprisoned for contempt for not testifying. Had a case down here back when where a mental patient killed a girl. He'd told his mental health worker he wanted to. She didn't report it, was required not to do so by the terms of her employment, and when told that, she went out and bought a handgun. She was subpoenaed and testified to what he told her. She received some peer pressure, but made a great witness.
Don't believe everything you read. There's even conditions Attorney-Client confidentiality can be violated. For instance if someone's life may be endangered.
If I had access to Lexis Nexis like I did when I was in School, i could do some searchs and find some cases.
If a client killed someone and told his lawyer after the fact, the lawyer is bound by that confidentiality rule. But if the client discloses he plans on killing somebody else (in the future), the lawyer has a duty to report it. I believe that holds with doctors too. Or if the doctor suspects he/she might the doctor should do what's necessary to prevent further crime from being committed. If the doctor or lawyer doesn't then they are an accessory to the crime.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Right. A shrink is compelled to report any statement of intent to commit a crime of violence. They will tell you this. There are certain professions which are mandated reporters of crimes of violence that have already occurred. Like doctors in ERs in cases of crimes against children. And IIRC, domestic violence. There are MANY exceptions and few confidences.
Tubabucknut, the standard answer to any request for medical records is to pound sand...until a lawyer subpoenas the records and testimony. And there are, as I said above, mandated reporters, which are protected and compelled by law. And this is true with almost any institution.
I don't know what you do, but I know what I used to do for more than 30 years. I don't suppose you'd want me telling you what you've been doing all your career is absolutely wrong based on a single personal incident.
I am impressed Gene. In 30 years you have a 100% conviction rate on your felony arrests. You should certainly have a medal or two.:roll2::worthy:
Now where is that shoveling manure smiley when you need it.
I think that pretty well sums it up.
Mike
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I see you're a fan of TV Crime/Trial programs. Perhaps this is why you hired a $400 an hour attorney. In reality, very few cases go to trial (mostly the felons plea) and a jury acquittal in my county is a very rare occurrence. This is because the evidence in almost all crimes is overwhelming. Take the Boston Bomber trial, for example. And those $400 per hour lawyers understand ten or twelve hours before a jury in which they're probably going to lose and probably not get paid for is not financially astute. They will go for the best deal they can get for their client.
The last trial I was involved in was a murder trial and we got a conviction. It was because of great LE work, almost all of it on our investigators. I had little to do with it except initially.
I can't remember ever losing a felony trial. Lost a misdemeanor trial and a DUI, but that's about it. But 99.5 or so of the cases I made didn't go to trial, the defendants plead out. A trial was a VERY rare thing. Hearings, yes. Trials, nah. You probably won't believe this, though I have no reason to lie.
IF a LEO loses more than a trial or two, it's either because he's incompetent or because the DA is. Or because there's a lack of evidence, like in the Casey Anthony trial or the jury has been nullified, like the OJ trial. It's not good for a DA's resume to lose a case, and they won't go for iffy cases unless there's public pressure, like the George Zimmerman case. Very poor chance of conviction. And he didn't get it. Had there been zero public pressure, that case would never have gone to court.
The second biggest case I ever made was against Richard Savage (google it) and I never testified in this case which went Federal and went through several Federal trials in other jurisdictionis. Because my charge was an attempted murder, it was lost in the jumble of higher crimes. He and Sean Trevor Dutre either died in prison or are serving life. Our arrest of Dutre started the ball rolling in far more serious crimes than the one in Athens, GA.
I need to get my muck boots. Getting hard to take a step.
So you were an officer in Japan then? Once again your claims don't match up with reality. According to you there are a whole lot of incompetent LEOs and DAs. I am sure attorneys had nothing to do with Florida's 59% conviction rate.