Murdered journalist's father is anti-gun zealot.

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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    :blah:back in my day........

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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate
    So you were an officer in Japan then? Once again your claims don't match up with reality. According to you there are a whole lot of incompetent LEOs and DAs. I am sure attorneys had nothing to do with Florida's 59% conviction rate.
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,727 Senior Member
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,570 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    Crazy people shouldn't have guns, wife beaters shouldn't have wives, drunks shouldn't have drivers licenses. But they do and they always will. It's the price of living in a democracy.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,071 Senior Member
    I'm not from Florida, tubabucknut.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,837 Senior Member
    I listened to an interview with the father last night, wherein he stated that he would likely have to purchase a gun to protect himself from those who were in opposition to his views on gun control.....Hmmmmmm
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Geraldo is on the 5 spouting the same nonsense. Munchkin Greg Gutfeld said (more or less) let Obammy and others who have security details protecting their precious butts go around like the rest of us who have to protect ourselves and see how they then feel about gun control.

    Gutfeld was only mirroring what Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark was saying on Fox the other night. If you don't know who Sheriff David Clark is, he's gotten to be a regular on Fox News since the Ferguson trouble first started. He's a very conservative Black Sheriff who give's Obammy and the Gang of liberal Thieves hell every chance he gets. He's very well spoken and he doesn't pull any punches.

    Chief, I figure you know who Clark is, I was just saying it in case some here don't know.
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  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    The Virginia Tech shooter would have been on the campus police' radar for TWO YEARS if he hadn't been protected by HIPA rules.
  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    Let me decide who is insane.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,271 Senior Member
    Gene doesn't need one of those big Propane burners to take a hot air balloon ride, that's for sure!
    Jerry
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,064 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Gutfeld was only mirroring what Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark was saying on Fox the other night. If you don't know who Sheriff David Clark is, he's gotten to be a regular on Fox News since the Ferguson trouble first started. He's a very conservative Black Sheriff who give's Obammy and the Gang of liberal Thieves hell every chance he gets. He's very well spoken and he doesn't pull any punches.

    Chief, I figure you know who Clark is, I was just saying it in case some here don't know.

    Sheriff Clarke is amazing. I love listening to that guy.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,071 Senior Member
    Sean Trevor DOUTRE. I misspelled his name. Look him up. He hasn't seen the light of day since I (we) busted him. That's been almost 30 years ago.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,071 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Gene doesn't need one of those big Propane burners to take a hot air balloon ride, that's for sure!
    Jerry

    If a DA loses one case and convicts on three that's a 75% conviction rate. And most have a much higher conviction rate when you get right down to it. And that's how statistics work. I do not lie on such and don't exaggerate.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,821 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    If a DA loses one case and convicts on three that's a 75% conviction rate. And most have a much higher conviction rate when you get right down to it. And that's how statistics work. I do not lie on such and don't exaggerate.

    You've already said that DAs pick and choose what cases they will or won't prosecute to keep their conviction rate high.
    Gene L wrote: »

    IF a LEO loses more than a trial or two, it's either because he's incompetent or because the DA is. Or because there's a lack of evidence, like in the Casey Anthony trial or the jury has been nullified, like the OJ trial. It's not good for a DA's resume to lose a case, and they won't go for iffy cases unless there's public pressure, like the George Zimmerman case. Very poor chance of conviction. And he didn't get it. Had there been zero public pressure, that case would never have gone to court.

    So the high conviction rate is the result of the DA picking and choosing between slam dunk cases and cases that aren't likely winnable. That's the same as saying that that the DA won't bet on the three legged dog to win the race at Hialeah, FL when he has three other 4 legged dogs racing against it. The DA skews the conviction rate to make himself/herself look good. YOU said it; I didn't.

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,271 Senior Member
    Mike, both of us know how the Hamilton county Tennessee DA wins cases- - - -perjured testimony, witness intimidation, and a lot of other dirty tricks. When a defense lawyer needs an armed escort to visit his client, and the guys following him around and threatening his life are investigators from the DA's office, something is pretty rotten! In that particular incident, a special prosecutor from out of county was appointed by the judge, and the client was acquitted on appeal.
    Jerry
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,071 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    You've already said that DAs pick and choose what cases they will or won't prosecute to keep their conviction rate high.

    So the high conviction rate is the result of the DA picking and choosing between slam dunk cases and cases that aren't likely winnable. That's the same as saying that that the DA won't bet on the three legged dog to win the race at Hialeah, FL when he has three other 4 legged dogs racing against it. The DA skews the conviction rate to make himself/herself look good. YOU said it; I didn't.

    You've dug your hole; see if you can backfill your way out of it.

    No, I didn't say it, you said it. You're engaging in a pathetic attempt to make something out of what I said.

    The problem with trying a case with a problem of conviction is double jeopardy. If you go to trial with an unwinnable case and the guy is found not guilty, he can't ever be tried for this case if evidence later develops. Casey Anthony could say, "Hell, yes, I killed her," and she could not be prosecuted for it. Fact is, which some of you apparently do not understand, is most cases are slam dunk cases that should never go to a jury. So there is good reason not to try a case when the evidence is not present. As well as a good Constitutional reason.

    While Zimmerman was by no means a slam dunk case, it was brought to trial because of public pressure to do so. It should have not been tried in a normal world.

    I have no idea what the justice system is like in TN, but if you keep electing officials who you feel are corrupt, either you're a member of the Victim Society who feel like you're constantly a victim of the system, like Black Lives Matter, or you deserve what you get for electing them. It seems some of you are like the shooter in VA, you look for things to be offended by and blame others.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,821 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Mike, both of us know how the Hamilton county Tennessee DA wins cases- - - -perjured testimony, witness intimidation, and a lot of other dirty tricks. When a defense lawyer needs an armed escort to visit his client, and the guys following him around and threatening his life are investigators from the DA's office, something is pretty rotten! In that particular incident, a special prosecutor from out of county was appointed by the judge, and the client was acquitted on appeal.
    Jerry

    Oh, yeah, and ain't that the truth! Back in the 80's when I was working at Sequoyah Nuclear Plant I got selected for jury duty about three times a year. I always seemed to 'luck out' and get stuck on criminal court juries. Some of the people got a 'Not Guilty' verdict because of the shenanigans of the DA's lawyers and the so called 'investigators'. There were quite a few times when it would have been nice to take a baseball bat to the prosecutor and his minions. It wasn't jury nullification either; it was the outright lies and the manipulation of the evidence that burned the DAs office. Hell, if they didn't have enough evidence, they'd fabricate it out of whole cloth!

    And Collegedale is worse. Back around 15 years ago a kid went for a ride with a friend, and the friend forgot to mention the car was stolen. They got pulled over, and the kid that was the passenger got his face dragged through the grass during the arrest (Collegedale cops are noted for rough arrests). He was spitting out the grass and dirt, and the cop decided he needed one of those cloth bags over his head, and in his report said the kid was spitting at him (the driver/car thief said otherwise). The cop grabbed a plastic bag used for something else and cinched it tight around his neck. During the ride to the PD the kid told them several times he couldn't breathe. The cop told him that if he could talk then he could breathe. When they got to the PD the kid was blue as a blueberry and dead as a doorknob. Cop got off with 'additional training'. Cop had to seek greener pastures, though; multiple bullet holes through the windows of the police cruiser he was driving was a strong hint that things were not O.K. with murdering the teen. From what I heard he left with the mob hot on his tail.
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  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,019 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    I saw the interview on TV and have seen what the TV reporters say he said.

    The take on guns I heard him say was not gun control, but, was better control of keeping the guns out of the hands on people with mental illness.

    Each report that references his statement starts out with the father is against guns because it is sensational not true.

    You heard something different than I did I guess. The father said "I'm taking on the NRA" and we need Common Sense gun laws. He was as anti gun as any I've heard.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,355 Senior Member
    You heard something different than I did I guess. The father said "I'm taking on the NRA" and we need Common Sense gun laws. He was as anti gun as any I've heard.


    While I agree with this, I still won't judge the man. Ike I said before, I'm sure being anti-gun is nothing new for him, but at least for the time being, he can spout off all he likes. Very few will ever be swayed by his rantings.
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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,871 Senior Member
    Guess I probably should not even post since I have not been on here in awhile. But, I watched several videos and still shots of the incident. Then I watched the live interview with the father.To me he showed no remorse for what had happened to his daughter. It was all about gun control. Makes you wonder. Sad we can not even believe the news no more.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    CNN is milking it for all it is worth and the usual Gun Grabbing Suspects are chiming in and they have an interview with the parents and swear they will make a difference on gun control........blah blah blah

    As much as I feel sorry for what they must be going through, I'm sick of it already. The 2A doesn't seem to mean anything to these folks because their daughter got murdered. It doesn't work like that. He could have used a hammer and crushed her skull or a machete and she still would be dead, awful as that sounds.

    Like I posted on another thread, we had 2 American Soldiers get murdered in Afghanistan last week when an Afghani defense force "Friend" turned on them. It didn't get 1/100th of the mention this has all over the networks and I'll bet their parents and loved ones are grieving just as much as these two are.

    I know it was sensational, live on TV and one of their own, but still. I don't mean to sound crass and uncaring because I'm upset about it too and every other senseless murder.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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