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GunnerK19
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Disabled man shoots home intruder...
GunnerK19
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and then is told by the landlord to get rid of his gun.
http://www.pressherald.com/2015/09/02/rockland-man-shot-during-break-in-to-make-first-court-appearance-today/
Either the apartment management needs to reconsider its policies, start providing armed security for it's tenants, or it needs to start respecting their Constitutional rights.
http://www.pressherald.com/2015/09/02/rockland-man-shot-during-break-in-to-make-first-court-appearance-today/
Either the apartment management needs to reconsider its policies, start providing armed security for it's tenants, or it needs to start respecting their Constitutional rights.
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Bee Ess. No lease, regardless of its provisions and clauses, can deprive a citizen of his Constitutional rights. What if the lease required him to not vote? Would that be enforceable? What if the lease required him to be an atheist? Suppose the lease required the tenant to submit any letters he writes to management for review and or censorship before being mailed? Can an apartment lease abrogate a tenant's right to freedom of speech, or the free exercise of religion, or of voting? Ridiculous? Of course. But no more so than banning lawfully qualified tenants from possessing firearms.
Apartment complexes are a kind of public accommodations - when offering an apartment for lease, their options for discrimination are extremely limited. Credit rating, criminal history, and legal status may be it. But under no circumstances should they be allowed to discriminate for the mere exercise of any civil right.
Substitute workplace for apartment. Do have all those rights at work? No. As a condition of employment, you give up rights while at work and some away from work. Same with accepting a lease.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Big difference between breaking the law and breaking policy. One can put you in jail and the other can put you unemployed. I'd rather take my chances and be unemployed.
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I remember back in the 70s we lived upstairs in an apartment complex south of Houston and these guys down in the court yard hit this guy in the head with a baseball bat when they had him down on the ground. I thought it killed him at first. I walked out on my porch with a shot gun and started to point it and tell them to stop. But a neighbor on the ground floor walked out with a revolver and told them to drop the bat and put their hands up. They did. Before anybody noticed me I went back in the house. The cops came and had an ambulance haul the injured guy off to the Hospital and arrested the bad guys. The guy was lucky he only suffered a concussion. That's as close to fully exercising my 2 A rights as I've come. The other guy got to be the hero, but that didn't bother me. I was happy for the way it came down. Of course a bunch of us were witnesses, but they never subpoenaed me. I did tell the cops what I saw, but since nobody saw me with a gun, I didn't disclose it. Not too many people were openly anti gun down here back then.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
While employers face laws against discrimination and favoring protected classes, and even unionization, there is no other similarity between a public accommodation and the job site. Your employer is paying you - compensating you for your cooperation with his policies. Your landlord is being paid by you, and that's different.
You signed a contract to abide by the landlords rules. One of the rules is that you pay to be there, another in this case is that you cant keep a gun. You are right, it is different. One is a policy, the other is a contractual obligation.
If the lease said "no pets" and the guy had a cat, would you be standing up for that? Or if he was running around the halls with a Islamic flad yelling Allah whatever, is it a violation of his 1A rights to toss him out?
Because if a person gets hired to work in LE, that person will not be forced to disarm, ever, so I guess LEOs are exempt from such rules.
There's a Burlington, VT LEO currently facing a charge of Domestic Violence. You can bet your butt if he's convicted his job and guns will go bye bye.
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If a LEO commits a crime and the DA prosecutes, the rest follows of course, once convicted thats that, we weren't talking about that, only non LEOs are forced to disarm, not LEOs, or retired LEOs.
Just like all LEOs are not only authorized to carry in their own States, but in every State, retired LEOs too.
If the lease has no provision for LEO, then that person is under the exact same obligation if he signs the contract. He has the same option, sign and be bound legally with the rules of the contract, or get another place. He is not being forced to disarm, he has the choice to live there or not.