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I think I like Ben Carson the best

snake284snake284 Senior MemberPosts: 22,429 Senior Member
Of all the candidates, I think Carson would be my first choice. I say that because i don't think Ted Cruz has a chance. He's my real first choice. But Carson has a real chance at the nomination, and of all those I figure that does, he's my favorite. I like Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal, but like Cruz, I don't think they have a chance.
But Doctor Carson is a smart, cool guy and I think he would think through every decision. He also seems to have come light years on the Second Amendment in the last 6 months.

I also like Carson because every time he speaks he mentions a need for smaller government and giving more power to the States. And that's what I think will solve a lot of problems. Lets get these things out of Washington where the lobbyist thrive.

I like Carson too because he has a positive message overall. He doesn't sit around and bad mouth, he instead gives remedies to our problems. I just think Carson is a Smart Cool Guy that could unite this country and undo a lot of damage done by Big O.

What are your opinions of him?
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  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    I like him. He thinks before he speaks and doesn't regurgitate talking points but that is a negative in our present political environment. Accomplished and humble. Two things the present occupier of the WH isn't.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Trump, Carson or Fiorina. Your choice, any two, in any order, and I'm there.
  • john.41john.41 Member Posts: 316 Member
    horselips wrote: »
    Trump, Carson or Fiorina. Your choice, any two, in any order, and I'm there.

    I'm with ya.........don't need no more stinkin' 2faced politicians!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,910 Senior Member
    Carson would be someone I could enthusiastically support.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    Chances of election depend on whether or not he's the republican candidate. Anyone running as a third party is going to be another Ross Perro. And honestly I'd take trump at this moment. He has nothing to gain financially and he isn't about saying what the masses call being PC.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I like Carson for his honesty. He gave a good Q&A today, and I liked his answers to the reporter's questions. Carson, Fiorina, and Trump, in that order are the ones I'm watching. They AREN'T career politicians, and are giving some good answers to questions. Trump needs to tell how he's going to do some of the things he says he will do if elected. Right now his value is bringing out problems that people really want solved and candidates on both sides are having to address those problems. Bernie Sanders is ahead of Hillary in the polls now, and that is causing some anxiety in the DNC. They don't know whether to poop or wind their watch! :roll2: And Biden doesn't look like he's willing to run now from what he said today.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Chances of election depend on whether or not he's the republican candidate. Anyone running as a third party is going to be another Ross Perro. And honestly I'd take trump at this moment. He has nothing to gain financially and he isn't about saying what the masses call being PC.

    Of course, believe me, I didn't say anything about a 3rd party candidate. No way. A third party candidate is just another
    "No Way Joe Loser" to me. Yeah, Trump looks great right now, but it's a long time til the primaries. And I think a candidate like Carson can keep chipping away at it and get the nomination. Actually, there's more than just Carson that can do this, but I think Doctor Ben would be the most patient and effective at this due to his soft spoken mannerism and speaking ability. And I'll say something else here too. He would draw a fair share of the Black vote too. I think if there's a black out there that can draw blacks across the line it's Ben Carson.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    This whole contest will change when a few more drop out, after the first three primaries. Cruz is still a viable candidate, once the conservative vote is not shared by so many.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,910 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Of course, believe me, I didn't say anything about a 3rd party candidate. No way. A third party candidate is just another
    "No Way Joe Loser" to me. Yeah, Trump looks great right now, but it's a long time til the primaries. And I think a candidate like Carson can keep chipping away at it and get the nomination. Actually, there's more than just Carson that can do this, but I think Doctor Ben would be the most patient and effective at this due to his soft spoken mannerism and speaking ability. And I'll say something else here too. He would draw a fair share of the Black vote too. I think if there's a black out there that can draw blacks across the line it's Ben Carson.
    If Carson were to be the actual nominee, his chances of election would be quite high, given the fact that he's made some inroads into the black community and given that for them he would be a good alternative to the democrap slavemasters they've been voting for in the last 60 years, he would be a shoe-in.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    If Carson were to be the actual nominee, his chances of election would be quite hig , given the fact that he's made some inroads into the black community and given that for them he would be a good alternative to the democrap slavemasters they've been voting for in the last 60 years, he would be a shoe-in.

    I totally agree Noel. And once some of the wind bleeds out of his bag, I think Trump will fade. I hope anyway, because his candidacy I'm afraid will cause some conservative or just plain Republican voters to stay home.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,183 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    I like Carson for his honesty. He gave a good Q&A today, and I liked his answers to the reporter's questions. Carson, Fiorina, and Trump, in that order are the ones I'm watching. They AREN'T career politicians, and are giving some good answers to questions. Trump needs to tell how he's going to do some of the things he says he will do if elected. Right now his value is bringing out problems that people really want solved and candidates on both sides are having to address those problems. Bernie Sanders is ahead of Hillary in the polls now, and that is causing some anxiety in the DNC. They don't know whether to poop or wind their watch! :roll2: And Biden doesn't look like he's willing to run now from what he said today.

    He is trolling for money and support.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    He is trolling for money and support.

    Here's one from left field. What if Biden ran for president and won the nomination, and had Obama as his vice presidential running mate? The 22nd Amendment doesn't address that one. It only addresses the two terms as president. Scary stuff right there.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,910 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Here's one from left field. What if Biden ran for president and won the nomination, and had Obama as his vice presidential running mate? The 22nd Amendment doesn't address that one. It only addresses the two terms as president. Scary stuff right there.
    Good grief, that's the nightmare scenario. It's one I wouldn't bet on, but if it did happen Obama would hook Biden up with his network and cash machine..
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,981 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    ...however I believe he would make up lost votes with ones from the middle of the road crowd, and especially younger voters who are tired of the same old same old.

    I don't know if I can be called a "younger voter" anymore, but I'm certainly tired of the same old same old! Trump sounds like - emphasis on "sounds like" a breath of fresh air. How effective? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not, blah, blah... :blah:
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Here's one from left field. What if Biden ran for president and won the nomination, and had Obama as his vice presidential running mate? The 22nd Amendment doesn't
    that one. It only addresses the two terms as president. Scary stuff right th.re.[/QUOTE

    I don't know if that would play out and would probably end up having the Supreme Court decide the election. I don't think the amendment specifies ELECTED president just a president can't serve more than two terms. And I think there would be a definite problem if Biden tried to select him as VP. I doubt that's a viable scenario. Besides, Obama has muddied up the water so bad I don't think Biden would want him on his team. Biden if nothing else is a loyal VP. Actually, I don't think he wants to be president. I think he's smarter than we give him credit for.

    Actually, in my opinion, Biden is the only possible candidate the Dems have other than Martin Omalley or Webb and they're so far back I can't see them getting there. I can't see the dems actually winning with Bernie Sanders and it's looking like Hillary is maybe going to have to serve from Leavenworth if she's elected.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Like Mcain and Romney did?

    I think Trump will lose some votes of some conservatives, however I believe he would make up lost votes with ones from the middle of the road crowd, and especially younger voters who are tired of the same old same old.

    More so.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,281 Senior Member
    I have a lot of respect for Dr Carson, however , we need a pit bull to put the democrats and adversaries back on there heels.Under normal circumstances he would make a great President, this time I'll vote for the Pit Bull
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    I have a lot of respect for Dr Carson, however , we need a pit bull to put the democrats and adversaries back on there heels.Under normal circumstances he would make a great President, this time I'll vote for the Pit Bull


    I'm thinking the same.

    Carson is a great guy, but I worry about his willingness to target the Democrats for their continuous assault on this country and the good people in it. There are miles of video showing their lies and deceptions, and I want to see it in campaign ads, and to see them called out for it in debates.

    Anyone who is too polite to hold their feet to the fire is not up to the challenge, in my opinion.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I'm thinking the same.

    Carson is a great guy, but I worry about his willingness to target the Democrats for their continuous on this country and the good people in it. There are miles of video showing their lies and deceptions, assault nd I want to see it in campaign ads, and to see them called out for it in debates.

    Anyone who is too polite to hold their feet to the fire is not up to the challenge, in my opinion.
    Personally I think y'all are misreading him. I think he will be very firm with the left or any adversary. Look how he handled Trump's criticism of his religious views. He softly and almost quietly made Trump look like a fool in just a few words. He didn't have to act angry or throw a fit. He just turned it on him very smoothly. I think he's got a talent for making bafoons look like bafoons. where everyone looking on gets it.

    I really believe he's like he is, not because he's timid, but that he believes it will get more done. And another thing, there's a whole lot out there in the middle that haven't made their minds up. I think Dr. Carson can get most of them. AND the bottom line with me is to get the best conservative we can that this flaky electrolate will vote for, and I think that may be Carson, I really don't think it's Trump. Trump has got his following but it's not enough to put him in the White House.

    That's my opinion anyway.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    I haven't written him off. I'm just not picking a horse, yet. There is a lot yet to come. Nobody has found a way to attack him, yet, without looking like an ****. Trump nailed him with the comment Carson made on his faith, and he's going to ride that one out by making an apology that everybody believes is sincere, including me. But tougher comments will be coming if he stays high in the polls. No Republican in his right mind will slander him, because it isn't allowed, but there will be Democrats after him, soon, if he stays high in the polls, because they can get away with it.

    I want to believe that a guy like him can get elected, but I'm not there, yet. Right now, I believe that there are a lot of butts out there that need to be kicked, and I don't see him doing that. Politics are not a gentleman's game, if one side can win with dirty tricks, fraud, and abject lies that are accepted and even promoted by the major media, and he is a gentleman. If he can change politics into a gentleman's game, he is a great man.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    I've always liked Carson, but have been a bit suspect at his ability to be a good president. My thinking is starting to change, and I'm liking him more and more.

    Second to him, I like Carly.

    Every time I think I'm starting to like Trump, he says something disgusting (like his remarks about Carly's face), and then makes it worse by offering a totally implausible explanation. Try as I may, I just can't make myself like him.
    Jerry

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,040 Senior Member
    john.41 wrote: »
    I'm with ya.........don't need no more stinkin' 2faced politicians!

    You mean like
    snake wrote:
    e also seems to have come light years on the Second Amendment in the last 6 months.

    I like Carson, but it seems like he is changing a view just to get elected. Which usually means they will sell out that view to get something done
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    You mean like


    I like Carson, but it seems like he is changing a view just to get elected. Which usually means they will sell out that view to get something done


    Maybe, but, we can't afford a Democrat, because with any Democrat you're already sold out when they get there. And we need a candidate that is electable. Most every one I like is not really electable. Carson is.

    Also, did you see him speaking at the NRA Leadership Conference? He was speaking from the heart. Also, he never was really anti gun, he just thought he could pick and choose laws. Like he said everyone should be able to have a gun to defend themselves but he thought nobody needs a rifle in a big city. He like a lot of people had never thought things through and realized you can't have it both ways because the antis won't let you. You give them an inch and they'll take ten miles. I think now he realizes you can't do that. You can't pick laws you like and not others. You're either pro gun or not. I think he has seen that now.

    And any one of these candidates could sell us out. But if they did, their political futures in the Republican Party would be non existent. Besides, Obama is a full blown anti gunner and he has HIS hands tied, you don't think a Republican would be at least equally as bound to follow the Constitution? The things I worry about with the executive branch is picking good SCOTUS Justices and signing good legislation into law. I think Carson would do a great job at that.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Ummmm, since WHEN have republican political futures been in danger because of them selling out?
    Never.

    Bush
    McCain
    Boehner
    McConnell
    Ryan
    Palin
    Rubio
    Myrick
    Graham
    Christy
    Romney

    All sold out, and all were either reelected, or are stars within the party.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    But those are all Republicans, right? They're better than Democrats. They have to be. They're more dedicated to their views and less likely to be swayed by the political winds. I mean, look at the party platforms!
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,573 Senior Member
    I think Dr. Carson is an outstanding person and a great surgeon. I'll vote for him in a heartbeat. He seems to be a gentle man and I hope gentle works out for him if he gets the nod. I think the world of politics is not a gentle one, though. Maybe that's why the top contenders are not career politicians.

    I do not like Trump, but I'll vote for him if he's the candidate. I think a large dose of confidence and brashness, however misdirected it may be at times, is what a lot of people are looking for. Dr. Carson is confident but is the reverse of brash.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I think Dr. Carson is an outstanding person and a great surgeon. I'll vote for him in a heartbeat. He seems to be a gentle man and I hope gentle works out for him if he gets the nod. I think the world of politics is not a gentle one, though. Maybe that's why the top contenders are not career politicians.

    I do not like Trump, but I'll vote for him if he's the candidate. I think a large dose of confidence and brashness, however misdirected it may be at times, is what a lot of people are looking for. Dr. Carson is confident but is the reverse of brash.

    I mostly agree Gene, but Maybe some of that Brashness is BS. Whatever, it's working for Trump at this point. But I still think it's too early. I think Doc Carson is a very patient man and maybe some are misinterpreting this as being timid. My opinion of Carson is he doesn't want to become a Trump. He's willing to let Trump ride the wave until it plays out and people get tired of hearing him. I believe they will. Right now Trump's filling a void. People are starved for a politician that will stand up to ISIS and they want to feel good about their country and are tired of Obummer and his gang of thieves. Trump is giving them that peace of mind albeit temporarily. But they'll get over it and see that there's other ways of getting back at the left and winning back their country. I think people will get over him, it's just a matter of time until he steps on enough toes.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    But those are all Republicans, right? They're better than Democrats. They have to be. They're more dedicated to their views and less likely to be swayed by the political winds. I mean, look at the party platforms!

    You sit and throw darts but offer no solutions. Go vote for a democrat and see where it gets you.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    I have. You just don't pay attention. I'll say it again:
    Stop Voting for the Status Quo.
    Stop Excusing Those Who Compromise Our Rights And Going Against Our Imperatives.
    Vote for men and women of character.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I have. You just don't pay attention. I'll say it again:
    Stop Voting for the Status Quo.
    Stop Excusing Those Who Compromise Our Rights And Going Against Our Imperatives.
    Vote for men and women of character.

    And YOU might start listening too. In the Primary I DON'T vote Status quo. I figure in the General I no longer have a choice. If the choice is Status Quo V. Dummycrap It's status quo. That's the way it is. I'll just vote for the lesser of Evil and live to fight again another day. We can make progress like that, but can't survive much more liberalism.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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