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Freshman arrested for bringing a clock to school

BuffcoBuffco Posts: 6,244 Senior Member
Young boy built an electronic clock, brought to his high school to show to his electronics instructor. School put on alert, boy arrested. Of course the boy's name was Mohamed.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

Obama invites boy to White House. Classy move.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/15/student-detained-police-mistake-clock-fake-bomb/72348060/

I despise zero tolerance policies.
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  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    One more time:

    "In the first place, God created idiots. That was for practice. Then He created school boards." --Mark Twain

    ...and by inference, school administrations in general. I've seen very little to belie Twain's quote in my over half century on the planet - if you're looking for idiots and lunacy, look no farther than the nearest school building.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,060 Senior Member
    Actually I'd look to the voters who vote the idiots onto the school boards.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    Actually I'd look to the voters who vote the idiots onto the school boards.

    I think being an idiot is a prerequisite to even run...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,060 Senior Member
    True, but to keep voting for the idiots and allowing them to keep the policies speaks to a possibly higher level of idiocy.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    Well, I've learned something today! All this time, based on his past posts and positions, I figured zorba was some young fellow maybe 30ish! WOW....! Over 50? Was I ever wrong!

    As for School Boards.... Ours has become very much controlled by state and local businesses. Our upcoming election of a superintendent is heating up, and our present one has about $400,000. in his campaign fund. Why would a position dedicated to the education of children, have a massive campaign fund like this? :silly:
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,745 Senior Member
    My wife is on a school board, pretty much a thankless low paying job if there ever was one, not much the board can do with the constraints of Federal and State bureaucracy, that being said, it can be pretty jr. high when dealing with the board members with agendas or the social media wielding public, the unions seems to be able to whip up public opinion some how:fiddle:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,060 Senior Member
    Depends on your location and what you work for. The local county school board pays about $35 to $40K per year.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    Well, I've learned something today! All this time, based on his past posts and positions, I figured zorba was some young fellow maybe 30ish! WOW....! Over 50? Was I ever wrong!

    55 in about 6 weeks and getting more cynical and grumpy all the time! If people would just listen, I'd solve all their problems straight away! :jester::tooth::guns::mad::roll2::devil:

    But I've been told I look 30-ish in a dim room or when I have my makeup on! :rotflmao:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    Yeah this is more my understanding. School administration however is almost always a high paying (6 figure) job, usually with very good job security. In general when there's a choice between furthering the education of the children and following some ridiculous rule or regulation, or even dealing with situations that are even a little bit outside the norm you can pretty much guarantee which side they'll take 99.9% of the time.
    Yep - and the teachers are generally underpaid, overworked, and the schools are always, and I mean ALWAYS, grubbing for more money. Get rid of the 6 figure do-nothing "educators" (administrators), then we'll discuss the budget.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Yep - and the teachers are generally underpaid, overworked, and the schools are always, and I mean ALWAYS, grubbing for more money. Get rid of the 6 figure do-nothing "educators" (administrators), then we'll discuss the budget.

    Dang, Zorba. You said something I agree with. Must be the aging process. Now I just need to figure out for whom.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    Dang, Zorba. You said something I agree with. Must be the aging process. Now I just need to figure out for whom.
    We probably agree on a LOT more than we would dis-agree, to be honest.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Little Mohamed can thank Allah he wasn't creatively eating a PopTart - nobody - not even Obama or Zuckerberg or Hillary could have saved him.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    On the flip side of everyone so far....
    A middle eastern man brings something to school that looks like a bomb....and people are shocked by the reaction of the police? Really?

    Call me a hater. Say I'm racially profiling. I Don't really give a .
    Say you saw this dude with this device on an airplane. Ain't a one of you that wouldn't be scrambling take him out. If you say you wouldn't, youre a liar.
    Blah blah blah a school ain't an airplane. You get the point

    :agree:

    Lets see, A Muslim, wires and electronic parts that most in that school have no idy what they are. I can see their concern.

    Age or sex hasn't stopped them in the past. Been different if a science teacher had assigned them a project with a list of parts and asked the kids to bring it in so he could evaluate their progress.

    The cuffing and all the hype could have been handled differently.

    Sorry, that is just the way it is these days. I do agree school boards and administrators act **** with some of their asinine decisions.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    That's fine - but most idiots "should" have the capability to figure out it wasn't a bomb - bombs require EXPLOSIVES.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,359 Senior Member
    First, the kid knew what he was doing. Don't you remember being a dumbarse in highschool and doing stuff to shock people?
    second, the math teacher was a moron to keep it in her desk for a while then have the code brown moment to call the cops.
    Third, the cops were morons for not excecising a little discression and giving the kid a talking to, and letting him go.

    BUT... as for this being racial- Horsesqueeze. I know a guy personally that had the cops and BATFE called on him from a small school in central TX for popping a plastic soda bottle with dry ice. The two kids are white and redneck as possible, and they did something on thier own that was done just a few hours before in a science class, and had the feds sicced on them by morons
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    BUT... as for this being racial- Horsesqueeze.
    I agree. It was a simple case of typical school idiocy - we see it all the time.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Well on the early debate this came up.................moderator said numb nuts invited that kid to the WH!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    If he was a Christian , I'll bet Obammy would not have.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,314 Senior Member
    The SCIENCE teacher...thought the kid did a great job....
    The ENGLISH teacher, (based no doubt on her many years in EOD) THOUGHT it looked like a bomb....and panic ensues...
    The COPS who should know better, rather than defusing the panic...participate in it
    The SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, buying into the panic, and spouting "It's all about safety!" suspends the kid for bringing a freaking CLOCK to school...and once they know it's a clock, keep the suspension in place...
    and...if you're trying to tell me that the fact that the kid is a Muslim didn't have a lot to do with the panic.....well I've got some beachfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you....

    After looking at the "device" it in no way resembles an IED...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • rberglofrberglof Posts: 2,990 Senior Member
    Lets see if I thought there was a bomb, class room and maybe school would be evacuated and case would not be touched until police said all was clear.
  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Finally saw the picture of the clock in the briefcase. Guess what, it looks like a typical digital clock powered by a stepdown transformer and without a case. First one I built was with a double handful of integrated circuits on perf board with wire wrap sockets. Four stacked boards crammed full of components. It looked a lot more like a bomb than that kid's clock.

    Stupid English teacher needs to be slapped so hard her mother screams. Ignorance is no excuse for a panic. The cops went way over the top with their response, too. And FWIW, you with kids should be telling them not to talk to the cops when questioned in a situation like that. Demand parents be present and shut up; in a case like this, the cops are not their friend.
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  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    The SCIENCE teacher...thought the kid did a great job....
    The ENGLISH teacher, (based no doubt on her many years in EOD) THOUGHT it looked like a bomb....and panic ensues...
    The COPS who should know better, rather than defusing the panic...participate in it
    The SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, buying into the panic, and spouting "It's all about safety!" suspends the kid for bringing a freaking CLOCK to school...and once they know it's a clock, keep the suspension in place...
    and...if you're trying to tell me that the fact that the kid is a Muslim didn't have a lot to do with the panic.....well I've got some beachfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you....

    After looking at the "device" it in no way resembles an IED...
    Exactly!

    Especially "...and once they know it's a clock, keep the suspension in place..."

    If THAT isn't typical school administration IDIOCY and STUPIDITY, I don't know what is. We keep seeing this over, and over, and over, and over again - and the common factor EVERY single time is an IDIOTIC school administration. Don't forget the pop-tart fiasco.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    Stop naming kids Muhammed, Mohammed, whatever..... After the past 14 years, what the hell do people expect???
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,314 Senior Member
    After the past 14 years, what the hell do people expect???

    I expect people....particularly those people who keep hollering about the importance of the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution, to recognize the right to worship as we see fit is ALSO a Constitutional Right....I've about had it with the Muslim hate/panic I see exhibited by normally right-thinking people...If they're dangerous, criminals/terrorists...kill 'em....if they're law abiding citizens they ain't a damn bit different than you or me....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,745 Senior Member
    Yeah this is more my understanding. School administration however is almost always a high paying (6 figure) job, usually with very good job security. In general when there's a choice between furthering the education of the children and following some ridiculous rule or regulation, or even dealing with situations that are even a little bit outside the norm you can pretty much guarantee which side they'll take 99.9% of the time.

    Yep, lawsuits cost money, school districts are big targets, our district is only 1000 students, my wife got paid $1300 last year, works out to less than $10 an hour.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,745 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Yep - and the teachers are generally underpaid, overworked, and the schools are always, and I mean ALWAYS, grubbing for more money. Get rid of the 6 figure do-nothing "educators" (administrators), then we'll discuss the budget.

    Your wrong, that is what the job pays, the job sucks, we got at least 250 hours out of our superintendent off the clock last year, our superintendent trains other superintendents how to do their jobs efficiently, our district has a $12Million budget, his salary while substantial in the low 6 figures, is justified. With 60% of our students eligible taking the ACT, their average was 22-23, not all school administrators are low functioning amoeba, I would say most of the small districts in our area are run WELL.

    Teachers would bitch if they were hung with a new rope, they are spoon fed the union line and repeat it often and regularly, they are working 9 months out of the year and get every made up holiday off with pay, they get opportunities to advance their education and degrees which results in pay increases, they get off work in the early afternoon, they get to retire with full benefits in their 50's if they choose if they started teaching when they got out of school, two of my dads best friends were teachers, they were not hurting when they retired, at all. The koolaid drinking union teachers are a joke. I am not speaking for my wife.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I expect people....particularly those people who keep hollering about the importance of the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution, to recognize the right to worship as we see fit is ALSO a Constitutional Right....I've about had it with the Muslim hate/panic I see exhibited by normally right-thinking people...If they're dangerous, criminals/terrorists...kill 'em....if they're law abiding citizens they ain't a damn bit different than you or me....
    No apology from me for being jaded. I just don't like them. To take it a step further, I hate them. Don't really care if that sticks in anyone's crawl. We ended WEII with collateral damage didn't we? And we aren't Japanese because of it.
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    A teacher who can't make the cut in the classroom gets an advanced degree and brown-noses him/herself into middle management where they can harass the competent teachers. Their promotion possibilities are directly proportional to how well their lips fit the behind of the incompetent fool one step up the ladder. The old saying around the system where I spent 30-something years was "A principal is a coach with two losing seasons!" Of course, if that person happens to be gay and/or female these days, they're a shoo-in for rapid promotion!
    Jerry
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    When I went to school, we didn't have a "superintendent" - we had a teacher in each classroom (18 of them), A principal, a secretary, a school nurse who was there 1 day a week, and 2 janitors - one of which also drove a school bus. These 6 figure IDIOTS do nothing, accomplish nothing, suck all the money, and take all the credit. We didn't have 2 vice-principals, a "community liaison officer", an "attendance office" with an entire staff, and certainly not anyone who called themselves an "educator" - which is Libtard speak for an overpaid 6 figure parasite.

    Oh, and we had a part time librarian in later years.

    I do agree about teacher's unions - in fact, if I'm not sure how to vote on a particular issue, I see what the California Teacher's Association has to say about it. They have something to say about just about everything whether it concerns them or not. In any event, I'll usually vote opposite! But I've know my share of excellent, dedicated teachers - and they do have it pretty tough, especially in this Libtard state.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,247 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    A teacher who can't make the cut in the classroom gets an advanced degree and brown-noses him/herself into middle management where they can harass the competent teachers.
    Exactly - then they're "Educators" instead of teachers. I've seen my share of them, and almost invariably, they're the source of school system idiocy.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
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