What is wrong with Ted Cruz?

kansashunter

I have not picked my choice yet but I have started to study them more closely. Sen. Cruz would seem to be what conservatives are looking for. He has stood up to the liberals and gop leaders. He is conservative not just talking that way now. He has an A+ from the nra. Am I missing something? Why is he not doing better?

tennmike

My take on this particular silly season of politics is that the electorate is tired of career politicians and wants an outsider completely outside of career politics to get elected. Cruz is a good conservative, but Trump, Fiorina, and Carson are sucking all the air out of the room because they are not career politicians, and are just different, and have a strong message. Still a long way until the primaries, and if Cruz can hold out until the early primaries he may still have a chance.

I think their pasts will catch up with Trump and Fiorina, and they have plenty of time to 'step in it' big time. I think Carson will last because he is a genuinely honest and intelligent man.

Anyway, by the time the primary is held in my state, the culling will already be done, and I'll get stuck with picking the least worst of the culls left.

kansashunter

Anyway, by the time the primary is held in my state, the culling will already be done, and I'll get stuck with picking the least worst of the culls left.[/QUOTE] That is how it will be for me, that is another reason I have not spent a lot of time digging into all of these candidates. I can't help being interested though.

BAMAAK

Isn't TN part of SEC tuesday? A bunch of southern states have banded together and made their primary day earlier, April I think, so we have some clout in the election for a change.

Big Chief

That guy irritates me fer some reason. He is like a TV preacher, in fact his father is a preacher, maybe that is where he learned his gift of gab. Not that I disagree with all his politics, some of it is OK.

breamfisher

BAMAAK wrote: »

Isn't TN part of SEC tuesday? A bunch of southern states have banded together and made their primary day earlier, April I think, so we have some clout in the election for a change.

They only have clout if the party accepts that change of date. Florida moved their primaries up and was only allotted half the delegates in both the Republican and Democratic primaries in 2008 and 2012.

bisley

kansashunter wrote: »

I have not picked my choice yet but I have started to study them more closely. Sen. Cruz would seem to be what conservatives are looking for. He has stood up to the liberals and gop leaders. He is conservative not just talking that way now. He has an A+ from the nra. Am I missing something? Why is he not doing better?

He isn't doing better because the establishment Republicans hate his guts and the mainstream media wants him to go away. His voting record is impeccable for Constitutionalists, and he has stood against every one of Mitch McConnell's cave-ins to the Democrats. He is as much of an outsider as a US Senator can possibly be, and still remain seated. I'll wager that he has a better conservative/libertarian voting record than Rand Paul.

Bigslug

tennmike wrote: »

I think Carson will last because he is a genuinely honest and intelligent man.

But. . .aren't honesty and intelligence automatic D.Q.'s for work in D.C.?

snake284

bisley wrote: »

He isn't doing better because the establishment Republicans hate his guts and the mainstream media wants him to go away. His voting record is impeccable for Constitutionalists, and he has stood against every one of Mitch McConnell's cave-ins to the Democrats. He is as much of an outsider as a US Senator can possibly be, and still remain seated. I'll wager that he has a better conservative/libertarian voting record than Rand Paul.

:that:

And all TV preachers aren't the same. Billy Graham is a TV Preacher for God's sakes. They all aren't the same. You can't compare Billy Graham with Say Jimmy Swaggert. Swaggert is a sleeze ball, Graham an honest Godly man.

And sometimes I think the advent of Television is the worst thing that ever happened to this nation. The exposure lets a persons emotions inter into politics. Woman vote for a man according to his looks and I think it may end up the same for men voting for a female candidate. That's just BS and has nothing to do with the job he can and would do in office. Also, it permits a libtard like Obama to get on there and appeal to the Low Info crowd.

Anyway, I try to look at what the candidate really stands for and I vote for the person that comes across to me as the most honest and conservative and smartest candidate on the ballot. Or at least I strive to do that. And that is Cruz and also Carson.

tennmike

knitepoet wrote: »

I believe they did accept it. I've heard it referred to as "The SEC primary"

Yes, the RNC changed the rules according to this MSNBC article
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/southern-gop-super-tuesday-could-be-2016-game-changer

Well it's about damned time! :applause:
The SEC primary; I like the name. :up:

Big Chief

Ted looks like a wax figure that is starting to melt and like it or not being photogenic is part of getting elected along with looks, charisma and all the rest.......................

tennmike

Big Chief wrote: »

Ted looks like a wax figure that is starting to melt and like it or not being photogenic is part of getting elected along with looks, charisma and all the rest.......................

Photogenic? Four bad words; Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders. :rotflmao:

snake284

Big Chief wrote: »

Ted looks like a wax figure that is starting to melt and like it or not being photogenic is part of getting elected along with looks, charisma and all the rest.......................

I realize it has a lot to do with it. But that doesn't mean it's for the best choice. In my opinion to choose a candidate for office because of his looks or his voice is really very shallow and down right stupid.

Diver43

snake284 wrote: »

I realize it has a lot to do with it. But that doesn't mean it's for the best choice. In my opinion to choose a candidate for office because of his looks or his voice is really very shallow and down right stupid.

Well Snake you answered it yourself. Just look what happened in the last two elections.

breamfisher

If being photogenic is a concern, explain Donald Trump. Specifically that dead hamster on his head.

And I agree: choosing a candidate based on looks is shallow and stupid.

snake284

breamfisher wrote: »

If being photogenic is a concern, explain Donald Trump. Specifically that dead hamster on his head.

And I agree: choosing a candidate based on looks is shallow and stupid.

Trump hit the market in a very unique situation where so many people in the middle or to the right of center are craving something they're not getting, that being a president that is sounding like he will stand up to the BGs and for our rights.

Whether Trump will prove to be our savior if elected remains to be seen, but even I have to admit that he's sounding real good. Also, his having a ship load of money isn't hurting.

I think he's just saying the right things at the right time and it's overriding his lack of "OTHER" attributes.

Big Chief

Shallow it may be, but lots of voters do either consciously or subconsciously........

snake284

Big Chief wrote: »

Shallow it may be, but lots of voters do either consciously or subconsciously........

Yep Sho Nuff! But I never said it wasn't happening, I just believe things would be better off if it wasn't.

horselips

RELAX, folks. The first primary isn't until February. Nothing much that we think we know today will be true then - for either party's candidates.

Big Chief

Well, I'll tell tell you what is "Wrong" with Ted Cruz..............he is simply not electable!

He could never win in a general election for the presidency in this day and age. Sorry it just wouldn't happen. Neither could Rand Paul for that matter.

He hasn't even resonated with Reps to be a front-runner in the polls. He is behind Carley/Ben/Donald. I don't see a "Breakout" happening for him either.

I could be wrong, but doubt he will win the Rep nomination. A lot can and will still happen.

Big Chief

Not saying i wouldn't vote for him over any Democrat, I would.

snake284

BTW, there's nothing wrong with Ted Cruz, but I can't say the same for a majority of the Electorate.

shootbrownelk

Ted Cruz is what the country needs...unfortunately he's probably not electable because of the way he looks. Trump has that horrible, ugly orange bird's nest on his head, but he thinks folks don't notice. Big mouth on him but no substance. And while Carson is an intelligent soft spoken likeable man, he's pretty soft on the second amendment, from what I've seen and heard in interviews he's had. Carly? Not presidential material IMO.

kansashunter

I thought Dr. Carson was going to be a good choice but I have read some things he said before his campaign that are not conservative and not to my liking.

snake284

kansashunter wrote: »

I thought Dr. Carson was going to be a good choice but I have read some things he said before his campaign that are not conservative and not to my liking.

Give him time. He like all of them is learning.

Basically, at heart, he is a conservative. But like us all, he had some weird ideas. But he is learning, like all of them. Look at Trump. He was an out and out libtard for a long time. Now when they all see a REAL libtard at the throttle, and they see what comes of LIBTARD policies, they are looking back to the right for salvation.

snake284

shootbrownelk wrote: »

Ted Cruz is what the country needs...unfortunately he's probably not electable because of the way he looks. Trump has that horrible, ugly orange bird's nest on his head, but he thinks folks don't notice. Big mouth on him but no substance. And while Carson is an intelligent soft spoken likeable man, he's pretty soft on the second amendment, from what I've seen and heard in interviews he's had. Carly? Not presidential material IMO.

Oh I think Trump has plenty of substance, but he ain't a clue how to do it, well not yet anyway.

In other words, he's got the talking part done...

snake284

shootbrownelk wrote: »

Ted Cruz is what the country needs...unfortunately he's probably not electable because of the way he looks. Trump has that horrible, ugly orange bird's nest on his head, but he thinks folks don't notice. Big mouth on him but no substance. And while Carson is an intelligent soft spoken likeable man, he's pretty soft on the second amendment, from what I've seen and heard in interviews he's had. Carly? Not presidential material IMO.

You know what? You're full of reason. And you could very well reason the election right into the Democrat's hands.