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Which .44 mag for field carry?

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  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member In the sticks, OHPosts: 5,617 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    Zee wrote: »
    I been eyeballing that sucker..............

    Seriously. Me too.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Seriously. Me too.

    You and your little MO friend..............I don't like you two. You enable and he instigates! Now you got me thinking hard.

    Don't..........like.........you!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Miami, FL almost in the USA ;)Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    Zee wrote: »
    And no, there is no dangerous game in my parts. No, I don't NEED a .44 Mag as a field gun.

    That's not the point. I tend to carry a revolver while hunting. Either a .357 Mag or a .44 Mag.

    Since there is no dangerous game, what is the point? If you want to carry an extra pound or two in the field, have at it. However I suspect you want it for a coup de gras, or unexpected guests. or even to take a hunting shot with. If it is to hunt, you need the longer sight radius to be more accurate at distance.

    As you said before, "It was so stinkin' hot I got sweat all over my blued gun." Carrying the extra weight is just unneeded extra work.

    FWIW, single action would be a no no for me, as I would want to draw and pull the trigger if that situation came up, and not have to "fan" the hammer. I would go light and stay with a .357 and save packing around an extra pound.

    IMHO

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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    I started carrying a 4-5" revolver or pistol when hunting since I have had deer walk right up next to me. If I shouldered a rifle and managed to find them in my scope, they would either be spooked or gone. It has happened so many times, I always have one with me now.
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,599 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    Nine chances out of ten a black bear isn't interested in you but it's the one chance that will put the tingle up your spine. That said my son was attacked and I had a close encounter. We also had a lot of cougar. I carried a few Security Six's, a Colt Trooper and a S&W 686. I have carried a number of BHs and SBHs my favorite being a 5 5/8 stainless. With my last close encounter I went back to DA because I don't want to think about cocking the hammer every time I say shiznit and want the gun to go bang. I went through a number of DA and settled on the S&W Mountain Gun.

    Since you already have a Mountain Gun but are afraid to carry it and you have a BH 45 LC I'd have to say get the Redhawk so you won't have to wipe the gun and tears from your eyes when your safe queen gets dirty.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,280 Senior Member
    I'd go with the Blackhawk...just because I like Single Actions....and what is this stuff about "fanning the hammer"....If you're carrying an SA and need it to attend to an issue, cocking on the draw should be second nature...
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  • Tom MixTom Mix Member Posts: 101 Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    Single Action revolvers seem to fit my hand better and tend to be a more natural pointer to me.

    Both are nice but I would go Super Blackhawk on this one.

    I myself would actually back up and get a S&W 629 with 5 inch barrel but if its the lower price of these two revolvers then I would go Blackhawk.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    super Blackhawk has to be a more comfortable carry. I seem to be getting older and lazier....What is the weight difference?
  • toymachinetoymachine Senior Member Posts: 761 Senior Member
    Desert Eagle
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,599 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    It wasn't the first shot that gave me concern , it was the fact that I might need 2 thru 5 (#6 is for me) while a critter, two or four legged, was getting my undivided attention after #1. I forgot to mention the dope growers where we hunt.

    I remembered during the civil war it was not uncommon to find ML rifles with multiple charges in them because the solider charged it multiple times and tried to fire it without a cap. Its the same reason that military bolt action rifles have an empty mag stop so the solider can't keep racking the bolt when he's out of ammo.

    Unless you practice a lot and even then there's room for doubt you won't be ready for an intense situation. I'd chose DA so when I say "Oh shiznit" the gun goes bang without thinking. Either revolver will work as a weapon opportunity for hunting.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member East TexasPosts: 10,815 Senior Member
    With your abilities, it doesn't matter - choose the one that pleases you and forget the details.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,599 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    "You can accurately empty a SA just as fast (and some folks can do it faster) than a DA."

    That may be true but only if cock the hammer and that was my concern. After my son was attacked he bought a 10 mm Glock.

    Zee doesn't have my and my son's issues. He just doesn't want to get his Mountain Gun dirty.

    DA for Zee
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  • NNNN Senior Member NCPosts: 25,221 Senior Member
    Freezer wrote: »
    "You can accurately empty a SA just as fast (and some folks can do it faster) than a DA."

    That may be true but only if cock the hammer and that was my concern. After my son was attacked he bought a 10 mm Glock.

    Zee doesn't have my and my son's issues. He just doesn't want to get his Mountain Gun dirty.

    DA for Zee

    Some of us shoot DA/SA revolvers SA [cock the hammer] anyway.
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Colorado!Posts: 7,697 Senior Member
    All I know is once I was deer hunting and I was walking down a game trail to a "good spot" and spooked a nice 5x5 white tail out of a bed. Like second nature I drew, cocked and fired all in one fluid movement and a dead deer was in front of me at 7 yards. I shot it through the neck hitting its spine. My hunting buddy saw the whole thing and said it happened too fast to really process what was going on, for him. The gun? Ruger single six 32 h&r mag with 100 gr XTP's. I was shooting a ton of sass matches at the time and was pretty good. So, yes a SA can be great if you know how to shoot them.
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    Well, I am no SASS aficionado. I don't even dress like one! Let alone shoot 1/10th as well. My single action experience is purely hunting related. I'm not even a huge DA revolver pistolero. Just know how to use them. That's about all.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,280 Senior Member
    And herein lies the issue...no matter what firearm you chose, you must train with it until it's operation becomes second nature...you don't think "I'm carrying X kind of gun so I have to do X to make it work" ,it just happens.
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,599 Senior Member
    4.2" Redhawk
    Zee wrote: »
    Well, I am no SASS aficionado. I don't even dress like one! Let alone shoot 1/10th as well. My single action experience is purely hunting related. I'm not even a huge DA revolver pistolero. Just know how to use them. That's about all.

    :that:
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Colorado!Posts: 7,697 Senior Member
    The point of my post was just train with x pistol and you will be proficient at hitting what you want to shoot in a flash.
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    Elk creek wrote: »
    The point of my post was just train with x pistol and you will be proficient at hitting what you want to shoot in a flash.

    No arguement. Just noting that I do not have the speed with a SA that many of you have. While I may have a handle on the precision of a SA, I am no Quick Draw McGraw.

    And, while I am faster with a DA, enough to get my point across to a charging bear.............I ain't no Miculek.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm thinking one afternoon, an ammo can and let's have some video of the end result :tooth:


    You want I post pick of the resulting hole in my foot?

    :jester:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,750 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    Luckily, if I go on foot anywhere when hunting I have my rifle in my hand and it's loaded. If confronted with a wild and dangerous animal, I believe it is a quicker option than dropping my rifle, drawing a handgun and dealing with any threat. A rifle in the hand is better than a handgun in the holster.

    Given that, I chose Blackhawk because it may be lighter to carry.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    Sooooo....which way are you leaning Zee?
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    twa wrote: »
    Sooooo....which way are you leaning Zee?

    Of the two listed above, I'm leaning Redhawk. Trying to decide if there is a third option...............
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    Zee wrote: »
    Of the two listed above, I'm leaning Redhawk. Trying to decide if there is a third option...............

    Now there's a surprise :up:
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Renton, WashingtonPosts: 2,598 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    If it was me, I'd take the Ruger. :tooth:
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  • RickVSRickVS New Member Posts: 14 New Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    I would go with the Blackhawk..I have a .41 Mag and a .45 convertible Flat top with the short barrel and love them both.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    OK, after much consideration and soul searching.............I've changed my mind and come to a conclusion.

    One of the few times it'll ever happen but, CPJ is right. I already have pretty much that exact Redhawk in .45 Colt. Having the exact same thing in .44 Mag don't make much sense. In all, I have 7.5" (.44 Mag) / 5.5" (.44 Mag)/ 4.2" (.45 Colt) Redhawks. I think I'm good on them...........for the moment. Especially with the having a 4" S&W Mountain Gun as well.

    As to Super Blackhawks, I have a 10.5" (.44 Mag)/ 7.5" (.44 Mag)/ 6.5" (.454 Casull)/ 5.5" (.45 Colt) models.

    Then, I have to add.......for the first time in history :tooth:........BigDanS made sense when he said this, "Since there is no dangerous game, what is the point? If you want to carry an extra pound or two in the field, have at it. However I suspect you want it for a coup de gras, or unexpected guests. or even to take a hunting shot with." Ultimately, this is what the gun would be to me and therefore, a double action is not really necessary.

    I considered a couple other options. A .44 Spl Blackhawk Bisley and a 7.5" Blackhawk Bisley in .44 Mag. But, both those guns were blued and pretty and therefore........would end up being safe queens.

    I'm looking for a working gun. A stainless steel gun. A gun I can use and not have a whole lot of emotional attachment to other than knowing it is durable and reliable. The Super Blackhawk is that.

    So, I think......as of now......I am going that route. It'll get a different set of grips, a HiViz FO front sight, and a Wilson Combat Custom Spring Kit.

    I'll likely order it tonight or tomorrow unless I am otherwise swayed. Thanks for your participation and help!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    Good choice, but don't fret you will have the Redhawk within 6 months, and that's pushing it. You won't be able to stand it.....just wait. :devil:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 28,060 Senior Member
    twa wrote: »
    Good choice, but don't fret you will have the Redhawk within 6 months, and that's pushing it. You won't be able to stand it.....just wait. :devil:


    Think I'm going to hold out for that 2.75" Redhawk to come back in stock. That's "different" enough to justify another Redhawk.

    :cool2:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,750 Senior Member
    4.6" Super Blackhawk
    If God hadn't wanted you to clean a gun, He wouldn't have invented gun oil. You must sweat like a horse or live in a rain forest. But I think what this whole episode has been about is giving yourself permission to buy a new gun. I've got two SS handguns, one a Model 65 given me the first time I retired and the other a Kahr PM9. They're fine guns, but so are my other blue steel handguns or that whatever-finish everyone is using right now that's virtually impervious.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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