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Russia starts air strikes in Syria
tennmike
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and tells U.S. to pull out aircraft prior to strikes. Well, that didn't take long to escalate. Meanwhile in Washington D.C. Obama is said to be in the fetal position in the Oval Office sucking his thumb.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3254579/Russian-politicians-grant-permission-send-troops-Syria-fight-ISIS-12-Cubs-Caliphate-child-soldiers-killed-France-s-air-strike-against-jihadis.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Russian jets have begun airstrikes in Syria – but only appeared to target anti-government rebels, many of whom are backed by the U.S.-led coalition.
The areas blitzed by Moscow are controlled by an array of rebel groups including those operating under the banner of the Free Syrian Army, according to activists, locals and rebels.
But none of the sources named the Islamic State as one of the groups operating in the areas hit.
A U.S. official also earlier said the Russian air strikes so far did not appear to be targeting ISIS-held territory.
Russia had warned the U.S. to pull its planes out of Syria an hour before the strikes began, driving a bigger wedge between Putin and President Obama, who faced off over the conflict at the U.N. General Assembly meeting in New York on Monday.
The move has infuriated Washington, with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry complaining to his Russian counterpart that Moscow's intervention would destablise the region even further.
A U.S. official said Kerry told Sergei Lavrov that the move 'runs counter to their stated efforts of deconfliction and is not helpful to that effort.'
Russian officials insisted the strikes had targeted positions, vehicles and warehouses that Moscow believes belong to ISIS militants.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3254579/Russian-politicians-grant-permission-send-troops-Syria-fight-ISIS-12-Cubs-Caliphate-child-soldiers-killed-France-s-air-strike-against-jihadis.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Russian jets have begun airstrikes in Syria – but only appeared to target anti-government rebels, many of whom are backed by the U.S.-led coalition.
The areas blitzed by Moscow are controlled by an array of rebel groups including those operating under the banner of the Free Syrian Army, according to activists, locals and rebels.
But none of the sources named the Islamic State as one of the groups operating in the areas hit.
A U.S. official also earlier said the Russian air strikes so far did not appear to be targeting ISIS-held territory.
Russia had warned the U.S. to pull its planes out of Syria an hour before the strikes began, driving a bigger wedge between Putin and President Obama, who faced off over the conflict at the U.N. General Assembly meeting in New York on Monday.
The move has infuriated Washington, with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry complaining to his Russian counterpart that Moscow's intervention would destablise the region even further.
A U.S. official said Kerry told Sergei Lavrov that the move 'runs counter to their stated efforts of deconfliction and is not helpful to that effort.'
Russian officials insisted the strikes had targeted positions, vehicles and warehouses that Moscow believes belong to ISIS militants.
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Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Its 1938 all over again!
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Whatever happens or doesn't, Obama will be remembered as "The President Who Lost The Middle East." And it will be the direct, personal fault of every voter who elected him, and every voter who didn't vote against him. Happy rationalizations! (You're only fooling yourselves.)
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
At least the teats look better.
Bound to have a midair or a shoot down otherwise.
Assad is an ally of Putin. Assad is not a good guy, but ISIS is worse and farther reaching. If Russia aligns with Assad to actually make a legit muscle move against ISIS can we live with that? Yea, I think so.
China is in the area to lay waste to a couple of Chinese Islamic terror groups that have been coming into China and doing bad.
Obama was wrong...it's Obama who is the JV team.
And Israel is...a mystery. They aren't fighting ISIS anywhere...odd...but Israel hates Assad...Obama hates Assad...ISIS hates Assad.... hmmmm...Netanyahu and Obama leave ISIS to do what they want in Syria AND arm anti-Assad rebels...
Pretty clear to me what's up.
AGREED!!!
Luis
Speaking of China, they are cracking down HARD on the Muslim Imams preaching hate and discontent in China. If ISIS screws up and starts blowing up stuff in China, I can see China sending in a few MILLION troops to settle ISISs hash for them. In the larger scheme of things, that wouldn't be all bad. They would get the job done with plenty of troops. And like Russia, they aren't saddled with that stupid ROE our troops have to abide by and end up fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. China and Russia only see collateral damage as accidentally shooting their own troops by mistake; civilians that get in the way should have moved out of the way before the :fan: .
If they complain about collateral damage, then this quote suffices as answer:
The Operative: I'm sorry. If your quarry goes to ground, leave no ground to go to. You should have taken my offer. Or did you think none of this was your fault?
― Douglas Adams
I just don't get it. Isn't inept performance grounds for impeachment? I mean don't we have the option of removing an inept leader from office rather than letting him lead us down the primrose path to ruin?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Bubba Clinton was Teddy Roosevelt compared to Obummer.
But mark my words, I don't think Obummer is doing all this crap because he's stupid. He does it by design. This guy's a Commie from hell, and a closet Muslim and people that say he isn't are asleep.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
OMG!!!_____:fan:_____:yikes:___:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
That's because anybody who would vote for Obummer or any full tilt bozo dummycrat is a FOOL!!!
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I mentioned to play close attention. But don't be Myopic in the look. Russia coming to Assad's rescue does far more than people see. Oil exports make up more than a quarter of the Syrian economy. Russia now has direct access to that infrastructure. Russia now has access to the Middle east beyond arms sales, and the ability to get back to arming African nations.
I hate to use old Policy terms, but we are looking at the domino effect in the middle east. Iraq will follow the stronger leader. If Russia quells ISIS in Syria and offers Iraq the same deal. Iraq will take it. Then Russia will have to two oil exporting countries. One on the gulf and one in the Med region.
Israel will continue to be Israel. Trust me, I guarantee Israel is fighting ISIS in their own way. But Israel also knows how to have tactical patience and wait. Plus they still have Hamas issues to contend with.
It won't be long until there is a incursion between us and Russia along the border, just like we "accidentally" hit the Chinese embassy in Serbia.
For the most part I'm in this camp at this point. This administration as a whole has already crapped on any legacy our fine troops carved out overseas...why let the same defunct administration do the same thing again.
If Russia and China want to go fight ISIS, I'm ok with it. However I do have to concede that the long term effects of Russia and China in the middle east are an serious unknown.
Good grief! Is it 1938 again, with Hitler expanding the Fatherland while the French hide behind the Maginot Line and Chamberlain signs de-conflicting agreements with a grinning narcissist? Is Israel our Poland, which we are pledged to defend, and we cringe at the thought of actually having to do it a year from now? When Syria becomes a Russian puppet state, can Israel still whip them without using nukes?
We should be beating our chests and demanding withdrawal, while fortifying our military resources, re-activating our parked carriers, and at least pretending to be gearing up for major war. We can either scare the crap out of Putin, or end up fighting him. He is Cold War trained KGB, and this is classic realpolitik, circa 1962. If we can't make him blink, he isn't going to stop this crap.
Dad 5-31-13
Teats on a boar hog are actually very useful for telling about the hogs genetics and breeding.
Dad 5-31-13
He dang sure didn't scare Putin. Obama talked pretty bold at the UN because he figured that Putin wouldn't whoop his **** in front of a crowd and Putin didn't get there in time to hear Obama's speech anyway. At the 95 minute private meeting that Obama and Putin had afterwards, I'm sure Putin was just feeling Obama out to see what he would do when Putin invaded Syria. He determined that Obama is just a bunch of talk and two days later, boom. Now Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Russia are allies.