Hand gun prefrence

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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,212 Senior Member
    Can't really vote...depends on the circumstances.... the handgun you will find on my person most often is a 1911, sometimes an XD45 other times a G36...and I have been known to carry a single action revolver on occasion.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,212 Senior Member
    ericb wrote: »
    Bream
    I actually got shot with a .410 when I was 16...perfect center of mass in the back at about 50 yards. My buddy swung on a late flushing bird and didn't realize I was in the line of sight. Damned lucky. I was pretty pissed. It went thru a field jacket, liner, flannel shirt, and long john shirt. My girlfried had a helluva time picking all the shot out of my back.

    I trust you were shot with an actual shotgun and not a revolver masquerading as one....yes?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,140 Senior Member
    .223sniper wrote: »
    The judge is technically a shotgun because it fires shot-shells and is chambered for a 410 shotgun round, just because its a revolver doesn't mean it isn't also a shotgun. And I never specified that the AR was a carbine just called it an AR.

    It is a firearm capable of being held and fired with one hand, has no stock and is readily concealable. I'm going with "technically" a handgun, here.

    -Jason
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,140 Senior Member
    ericb wrote: »
    Bream
    I actually got shot with a .410 when I was 16...perfect center of mass in the back at about 50 yards. My buddy swung on a late flushing bird and didn't realize I was in the line of sight. Damned lucky. I was pretty pissed. It went thru a field jacket, liner, flannel shirt, and long john shirt. My girlfried had a helluva time picking all the shot out of my back.

    ....what....?
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • gunrunner428gunrunner428 Senior Member Posts: 1,018 Senior Member
    .223sniper wrote: »
    They are handguns
    Shotguns: Taurus Judge 410 revolver
    AR: AR-24 9mm

    Deceptive advertising here. The .410 is considered a specialist's tool for game hunting by many who know - despite the proliferation of .410 youth model shotguns out there, the 20 gauge is far better (in range, effectiveness, and versatility) to any .410 in a long arm. And a handgun chambered for this round, to me, is nothing more than a gimmick gun.

    And on a forum of knowledgable folks, dropping the term "AR" is like dropping the term "HEMI" among car guys, it only calls to mind one thing, not some obscure, little-seen variant of a different animal.

    I know the Judge's marketing ploys, and some reports of it being used in defense, would give folks the idea it's the be-all and end-all in defensive handgunnery, but if you've got the capacity for a .45 Colt bullet (far better penetration at any kind of range and a single projectile rather than a thimbleful of lead dust) then that's what I'd go with.

    My history is with a revolver, and to the point I shot equally fast (at least for 6 shots) and marginally more accurately than anyone I worked with in an armed security company, and this was with frequent qualification requirements and a number of very gun-minded guys. Now, though, a simple 1911 is in my eyesight, and I would also favor Glock - most likely the Model 19 for preference - because of its track record and simple operation.
  • ilove22silove22s Senior Member Posts: 1,110 Senior Member
    it really makes no dif on what firearm is chosen. even a BP gun would do in a pinch or a knife/bat/pen.

    what matter is if the person knows HOW to use it effectively.
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    - Don Burt
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    .223sniper wrote: »
    The judge is technically a shotgun because it fires shot-shells and is chambered for a 410 shotgun round, just because its a revolver doesn't mean it isn't also a shotgun. And I never specified that the AR was a carbine just called it an AR.

    So is it still a shotgun when you are shooting .45Colt?
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  • ericbericb Banned Posts: 392 Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I trust you were shot with an actual shotgun and not a revolver masquerading as one....yes?

    remember the old Mossberg Bolt action .410s with the screw on choke? There ya go.
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  • ericbericb Banned Posts: 392 Member
    ilove22s wrote: »
    it really makes no dif on what firearm is chosen. even a BP gun would do in a pinch or a knife/bat/pen.

    what matter is if the person knows HOW to use it effectively.

    You might think BP will do in a pinch..ME? HELL NO !!
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,140 Senior Member
    ericb wrote: »
    You might think BP will do in a pinch..ME? HELL NO !!

    Follow-up shot stress is permanently defined as that feeling you get while trying to pour a smidge of powder in your BP pistol's flash pan while a bad guy rushes at you bayonet affixed! All other conditions are secondary. :tooth:

    -Jason
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • ericbericb Banned Posts: 392 Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Follow-up shot stress is permanently defined as that feeling you get while trying to pour a smidge of powder in your BP pistol's flash pan while a bad guy rushes at you bayonet affixed! All other conditions are secondary. :tooth:

    -Jason

    he doesn't get it
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  • MerlinMerlin New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    Gonna stay with my Glock 23 in .40 for personal outside -the-home defense. At home I'll use Mossberg 590 8-shot 12-gauge with Streamlite. It works for me.
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  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    1911A-1, in .45acp. Anything less would be uncivilized.
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 6,552 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Is a claymore antipersonnel mine technically a shotgun? If so, that gets my vote for mounting on de-fence.

    Derail... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::...........................

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    and asked, "Why are they holding up crayons?"

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  • big elkbig elk Member Posts: 111 Member
    I was taught that a shotgun had a smooth barrel and a rifle will have riflings. The only gun you could use in the Army was shotgun or handgun. I know you never called a rifle a gun. I saw a lot of recruits that were very embarrassed by calling it a gun. I'll never forget the saying, this is a rifle and this is a gun, one is for fighting and one is for fun !!
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,987 Senior Member
    Some shotguns come with a rifled barrel I fact I have such a barrel.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,930 Senior Member
    I said 1911 because that's what I have. But this thread is ancient.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,930 Senior Member
    big elk wrote: »
    I was taught that a shotgun had a smooth barrel and a rifle will have riflings. The only gun you could use in the Army was shotgun or handgun. I know you never called a rifle a gun. I saw a lot of recruits that were very embarrassed by calling it a gun. I'll never forget the saying, this is a rifle and this is a gun, one is for fighting and one is for fun !!

    What ever are you talking about? This thread is all but dead and buried. The last post on it before you posted was July 22, 2011. Now I admit,I've suckered in to old threads before, but you're not making sense. What do you mean the only thing you can use in the army was a shotgun or hand gun? The last I remember an M1 is a Rifle, and an M-16 is a rifle. So was a 1903 Springfield. And about every weapon issued by the military since the Revolutionary War.
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  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 890 Senior Member
    I alternate between my Colt Lt.Wt. Ofc. Mdl and my Cot Commander .45 acp with Crimson Trace grips.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,884 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    What ever are you talking about? This thread is all but dead and buried. The last post on it before you posted was July 22, 2011. Now I admit,I've suckered in to old threads before, but you're not making sense. What do you mean the only thing you can use in the army was a shotgun or hand gun? The last I remember an M1 is a Rifle, and an M-16 is a rifle. So was a 1903 Springfield. And about every weapon issued by the military since the Revolutionary War.
    I think he meant that a rifle is a rifle, and a gun is a shotgun or handgun. That's how I read it anyway.
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,195 Senior Member
    This whole thread devolved into "is a Taurus Judge a shotgun or a revolver shooting shotgun shells" and "is a CZ-75 clone really a 'AR?'" debate. I'm kinda to blame....
    http://forums.gunsandammo.com/showthread.php?261-Hand-gun-prefrence&p=3123&viewfull=1#post3123
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,987 Senior Member
    These old threads gotta go
    cannot remember what I posted if anything
    will get redundancy.
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    No brainer, AR if given the choice.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    These old threads gotta go
    cannot remember what I posted if anything
    will get redundancy.
    I am sure a new forum crash will be along any time now and take care of that for us.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    AK47 Underfolder by the desk, AR15 by the bed, handguns in desk and nightstand. Shotgun in closet next to bed. For handguns, any caliber but .40, in any gun but a Glock.
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