Dog down!

JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior MemberPosts: 6,102 Senior Member
The .17HMR struck like lightning. I zeroed my Savage 93R17 for 50 yards and headed out. I called for about 10 minutes after a light downpour of rain and out this young male trotted onto the fire trail. He was about 50 yards away and the .17HMR drilled him just behind the skull. I "whooped" him and he paused for literally a half second. He turned his head away as I broke the shot. Made no nevermind. He crumpled, paralyzed from and exploded spine. A quick walk up and shot to the head with my Ruger MkII .22LR and all activity ceased.

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I bought some of the new CCI "A17" ammo meant for the new semiautomatic Savage A17 rifle. It's got more umph than normal 17HMR to aid cycling. It's advertised at 2650fps in the A17 and in my bolt action Model 93, the chrono showed 2780. It's about a 200fps gain over normal 17HMR. And it shoots 1/2" at 50 yards boringly.

More to come!
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers

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  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    Very Nice!!!
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Good looking song dog.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,552 Senior Member
    Nice going.

    That's one that won't ever learn your system. I take it that you were downwind and that he didn't circle you, if he came in to 50 yards.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,898 Senior Member
    Nice hunt, get them before they get smart.
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,552 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Nice hunt, get them before they get smart.

    Yeah, the stories are numerous in which well-hidden hunters have had coyotes charge in from behind toward the decoy because they circled it and did not detect the hunter. They can be very crafty, if they have been hunted before.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Nice hunt, get them before they get smart.
    bisley wrote: »
    Yeah, the stories are numerous in which well-hidden hunters have had coyotes charge in from behind toward the decoy because they circled it and did not detect the hunter. They can be very crafty, if they have been hunted before.

    If my shot-to-kill ratio is 100% then all the ones that'd learn would be dead right? :tooth:

    I met a guy out near the property that owns almost 3500 acres south of the property I hunt who has a rampant coyote problem. His property backs up to about 2000 acres of State forest....more dead dogs to come.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,898 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    If my shot-to-kill ratio is 100% then all the ones that'd learn would be dead right? :tooth:
    Sure as long as the home range of those dogs does not include other property hunted by others not as deadly as you
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • 1965Jeff1965Jeff Senior Member Posts: 1,594 Senior Member
    Way to go!


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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Sure as long as the home range of those dogs does not include other property hunted by others not as deadly as you

    Adjacent properties are unhunted.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,248 Senior Member
    Good looking coyote. What will you do with the pelts?

    Sako
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    sakodude wrote: »
    Good looking coyote. What will you do with the pelts?

    Sako

    I gave that one to a buddy, but ultimately I want to find someone local who will buy them--for any price. I care not about profits.

    ETA: If I fell a nice looking winter yote in January I may have it taxidermed.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,248 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I gave that one to a buddy, but ultimately I want to find someone local who will buy them--for any price. I care not about profits.

    ETA: If I fell a nice looking winter yote in January I may have it taxidermed.

    Tan a couple and hang them in the gun room. I always thought that would be kind of cool but have never had the opportunity to shoot any.

    Sako
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I gave that one to a buddy, but ultimately I want to find someone local who will buy them--for any price. I care not about profits.

    ETA: If I fell a nice looking winter yote in January I may have it taxidermed.

    Damn those thing stink like bejeevens around here, my Son skinned one up last year that he shot with his bow. I can handle a lot of things, but those things are stinky suckers!
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    twa wrote: »
    Damn those thing stink like bejeevens around here, my Son skinned one up last year that he shot with his bow. I can handle a lot of things, but those things are stinky suckers!

    We have hundreds of them around my lease. Only problem is I never see them any time I'm just out driving the property or hog hunting after deer season. Only time is when I'm deer hunting and I don't want to screw up and scare the deer out. I guess I need to get a call and try hunting them seriously after the season.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    twa wrote: »
    Damn those thing stink like bejeevens around here, my Son skinned one up last year that he shot with his bow. I can handle a lot of things, but those things are stinky suckers!


    Always wear long plastic gloves when handling the mangie things. They smell worse than a boar hog.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    The .17HMR struck like lightning. I zeroed my Savage 93R17 for 50 yards and headed out. I called for about 10 minutes after a light downpour of rain and out this young male trotted onto the fire trail. He was about 50 yards away and the .17HMR drilled him just behind the skull. I "whooped" him and he paused for literally a half second. He turned his head away as I broke the shot. Made no nevermind. He crumpled, paralyzed from and exploded spine. A quick walk up and shot to the head with my Ruger MkII .22LR and all activity ceased.

    20151004_165625.jpg

    I bought some of the new CCI "A17" ammo meant for the new semiautomatic Savage A17 rifle. It's got more umph than normal 17HMR to aid cycling. It's advertised at 2650fps in the A17 and in my bolt action Model 93, the chrono showed 2780. It's about a 200fps gain over normal 17HMR. And it shoots 1/2" at 50 yards boringly.

    More to come![/QUOT

    I always wanted a 17 Remington. That's the .223 Necked down and the shoulder pulled back a little. It produces loads with 25 grain bullets in excess of 4000 FPS. I'm not sure if you can even find factory loads for it OR brass for it nowadays.

    In the hands of a good marksman it can be very deadly on targets out to 200 yards but there's little room for error. But I'd still like to have one. There were a few people around here that used them for coyotes and other small game and varmints and everybody I knew that had one liked it.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,835 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Always wear long plastic gloves when handling the mangie things. They smell worse than a boar hog.

    Just a tip....Never handle a mangey coyote...just kick some dirt on him and walk away. I've seen pictures of guys who brought "blue" coyotes home and their family dog is romping around in the background...and my "WHAT ARE THEY THINKING" alarm goes off...

    I'll admit that I can't pass up a shot at a coyote when I'm deer hunting...I just can't...That being said, it's never had a negative impact on my deer hunting. The deer in the place I hunted heard gunfire all the time and it just didn't phase them. Which poses a question...can you hunt with a suppressor in TX?

    I think the .17 Remington is a very valid choice for coyote hunting, though not a long range choice. My cousin was getting better than 4500 fps with a 15 grain Berger out of his and he's killed a lot of coyotes with it.
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,552 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    ...can you hunt with a suppressor in TX?

    They made it legal a couple years ago.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    The one time I have had to handle a coyote with mange was just nasty.

    The disgusting critter crawled into a hay manger and died. That poor dog did not have a single hair on him. I used a shovel to pick up the head enough to get a rope around the neck then drug it to the bone pile. I cut rope loose from the four wheeler and left it.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    They made it legal a couple years ago.

    Legal here in FL now too. I'll be using one as soon as mine is released from purgatory.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    Dayam, Jason! Reading your initial Post I was afraid one of your dogs had been cut to hell by a hog! Glad we're only talking about a yodeldog here!
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,665 Senior Member
    Well done :up:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    Dayam, Jason! Reading your initial Post I was afraid one of your dogs had been cut to hell by a hog! Glad we're only talking about a yodeldog here!

    If that were the case I would have taken a picture of a yote beaten to a pulp with a pine branch. Haha.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Just a tip....Never handle a mangey coyote...just kick some dirt on him and walk away. I've seen pictures of guys who brought "blue" coyotes home and their family dog is romping around in the background...and my "WHAT ARE THEY THINKING" alarm goes off...

    I'll admit that I can't pass up a shot at a coyote when I'm deer hunting...I just can't...That being said, it's never had a negative impact on my deer hunting. The deer in the place I hunted heard gunfire all the time and it just didn't phase them. Which poses a question...can you hunt with a suppressor in TX?

    I think the .17 Remington is a very valid choice for coyote hunting, though not a long range choice. My cousin was getting better than 4500 fps with a 15 grain Berger out of his and he's killed a lot of coyotes with it.

    I was only telling him if he's gonna handle the thing to use gloves. Myself I am not touching one. I'm not skinning him or pulling his teeth or having any contact with it. Also, while I'm hunting deer, the only other animal I'll shoot is Hogs, because you can eat deer and hogs. I'm not chancing scaring the deer. Also I agree with you about using a suppressor, and one day I will have a rifle with one. But right now I have too many irons in the fire.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    I was only telling him if he's gonna handle the thing to use gloves. Myself I am not touching one. I'm not skinning him or pulling his teeth or having any contact with it. Also, while I'm hunting deer, the only other animal I'll shoot is Hogs, because you can eat deer and hogs. I'm not chancing scaring the deer. Also I agree with you about using a suppressor, and one day I will have a rifle with one. But right now I have too many irons in the fire.

    I should have my suppressor within 60 days. It's coming down to the average tax stamp return times. It's been 4 months since it hit the NFA branch's office.

    And that's why I want to sell them to anyone who wants them. If not, they'll go in the pile of scraps on the property.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Just a tip....Never handle a mangey coyote...just kick some dirt on him and walk away. I've seen pictures of guys who brought "blue" coyotes home and their family dog is romping around in the background...and my "WHAT ARE THEY THINKING" alarm goes off...

    I'll admit that I can't pass up a shot at a coyote when I'm deer hunting...I just can't...That being said, it's never had a negative impact on my deer hunting. The deer in the place I hunted heard gunfire all the time and it just didn't phase them. Which poses a question...can you hunt with a suppressor in TX?

    I think the .17 Remington is a very valid choice for coyote hunting, though not a long range choice. My cousin was getting better than 4500 fps with a 15 grain Berger out of his and he's killed a lot of coyotes with it.

    Well, since I axed the 6.5 Grendel I thought about getting a .204 Ruger barrel. Uses 223Rem bolts and magazines
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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