Poll - What to use for the pig hunt...

BigDanS

I have several choices. Chances are this will be an under 50 yard stand hunt.

Marlin 1895 45-70 1x4x32 with reduced power 405 gr bullets - proven - accurate to 75 yards - night capable
Savage 116 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 180 gr reloads - Proven - accurate to 200 yards SUB MOA
Marlin X7 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 165 gr loads - unproven - accurate to 200 yards - new SUB MOA
Marlin 336 30-30 - 2x7x40 Federal 150 gr factory ammo - proven - accurate to 150 yards
DAS made .300 BO - 3x9x40 Shooting 125gr Hornady SST's at 2100 FPS - unproven - accurate to 200 yards MOA
Savage 110 .243 4 x12x 42 - 100 Gr 2800 fps - proven - accurate to 200 yards SUB MOA

timc

Any latex will work but the .300 BO will be fun!

NCFUBAR

If you are going for Porky around Lake Okeechobee you can see some nice larger ones with more boar traits than I see in ferals here in NC. If there is going to be underbrush I'd err on the side where I'd not have to track Porky. That would mean also the handling factor where you are and your likes. Me personally, I'd go with a heavier weight with enough to punch through the shoulder if needed, your proven .30-06. It may be to much for smaller pigs but you get a shot at a larger boar type it will be nice to have 180 grains behind it.

Now for me, we have been using a big pen with a push gate to trap the ferals around us so we've even used .22LR to kill the caught pigs but when actually shooting at distance I use a boring .308Win with a good old school 180 gr Sierra GameKing.

Jermanator

You got to get that classic 30/30 blooded, but I prefer you do it with your own handloads.

Jayhawker

Why would you use reduced loads in your .45-70? Won't notice a thing when you're shooting at game...

tubabucknut

Jayhawker wrote: »

Why would you use reduced loads in your .45-70? Won't notice a thing when you're shooting at game...

Scope nose.

snake284

.30-30 Winchester!Why? because it is perfect for the job. You expect

shots possibly around 50 yards. This is well within the .30-30s capabilities

Yes, the black out will do it too, but the .30-30 will do it so well. It's just made for such duty.


And, if you have a longer range shot it is good to at least 150 yards.

Zee

45-70

wddodge

45/70 Just because it's an awesome round.

Denny

CHIRO1989

I said .300, but I would say you should be hunting more and posting range reports for all of the above, fill that freezer:up:.

Freezer

336 Marlin light weight, easy to carry all day, fast follow-up, 2x on the scope will help if they're close.. If you'll need a longer shot you'll have time to dial it up a7x is plenty for two hundred yards.

bisley

Use the 300 BO. Else, why even own one?

Bigslug

You broke out that ever-so-vague "chances are". When in doubt: .30-06.

Diver43

.300 BO, its what you built it for, right?

BigDanS

It looks like I will need to bring them all.

Seriously, they are all tools for different jobs.

If we hunt at night, it will be the 45-70 will a light
During the day under 100 yards, the .300 BO
Over 100 yards, but not really likely the 30-06

Of the group, only the .300 BO and Marlin X7 30-06 have not been blooded. The .300 BO is close to a 7.62x39. I took my first pig with an SKS, and kind of felt under gunned, especially bigger animals. The 30-06 is a DRT proven cartridge on pigs up to 150 lbs, while my last boar was 150 lbs and was taken with a .243 and it did one circle and fell over. The 30-30 would be excellent if we stalk, in a stand or blind.

Hmmm....

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Farm Boy Deuce

The .300 BO is ballistic twin of a .30-30 just with bullets of a lower SD. Since the .300 BO has not been blooded take it. Leave the .30-30 home this time. You won't be under gunned with it. Take the .30-06 for a spare or if you get set in a spot with a longer shot.

Jayhawker

tubabucknut wrote: »

Scope nose.

So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....

tubabucknut

Jayhawker wrote: »

So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....

Not mine. So keep sayin...

BigDanS

Jayhawker wrote: »

So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....

That has all been fixed. I can shoot almost anything through the 45-70. They are all reliable guns, but I think I am going with the .300 BO unless it is at night, in which case I will use the 45-70. It has the perfect scope for it.

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timc

cpj wrote: »

Any latex?

"Listed", Damn spell correct!

orchidman

Book a longer hunt and use all of them. Start with the biggest calibre and work your way down.

JasonMPD

timc wrote: »

Any latex will work but the .300 BO will be fun!

Go nitrile. Some guys have latex sensitivity.

bisley

BigDanS wrote: »

Of the group, only the .300 BO and Marlin X7 30-06 have not been blooded. The .300 BO is close to a 7.62x39. I took my first pig with an SKS, and kind of felt under gunned, especially bigger animals. The 30-06 is a DRT proven cartridge on pigs up to 150 lbs, while my last boar was 150 lbs and was taken with a .243 and it did one circle and fell over. The 30-30 would be excellent if we stalk, in a stand or blind.

Obviously, DRT is the optimum result, but it is elusive, even with a more powerful round. That has more to do with shot placement, the situation in which the shot is taken, and the individual characteristics of the animal. I consider it to be a bonus. If I can make a shot that doesn't destroy the shoulder(s) and still be able to find the animal within 50 yards, or so, I think I've done great.

Hog anatomy makes that more difficult than shooting a whitetail, because of the 'armored' front, and the heart being located lower, and directly between the shoulders. On a true broadside shot, you have to shoot through the shoulder to hit the heart. A .30-30-ish round can do that at short range, although the heavier hitters can obviously do it better.

Personally, I would be hoping for a slightly rear quartering shot that would allow a heart-lung shot without hitting the shoulders, and if I got a DRT, it would just be a bonus.

BigDanS

knitepoet wrote: »

Which one has the highest FPE? :tooth:

The 30-06... but is it needed? The 45-70 has the higher sectional density.... :beer:

Jermanator

BigDanS wrote: »

The 45-70 has the higher sectional density.... :beer:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/sd_beginners.htm

Hondo341

I hunt Florida hogs. Any of those listed will work fine. If it is a 200 lb class and you use the .243 just head/neck shoot him if you are doubting. Use whichever needs to be bloodied. If none need to be bloodied just pick your favorite. The .45/70 will definitely sit them down with less tracking involved as long as you don't gut shoot it.

Jermanator

Sectional density does carry some meaning, but it is mostly hypothetical. If it actually starts to matter, you are seriously undergunned. The basic concept is that long and skinny (higher SD) is going to penetrate better than short and fat (lower SD) at equal velocities. The flip side of that is that (without accounting for expansion) the bullet with the lower SD will deliver a larger portion of its energy while traveling through the target. But again, that is totally over thinking things.

41magnut

I find the 30/30 adequate more often than not. Any of the listed caliber rifle combinations will be an outstanding selection. No flies on any of them.
One rifle for every possible situation? 30/06, next subject.

My rifle plans for various hunts this season have included, 30/30, 6MM Remington, 308, 30/06.

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Diver43

OK which one did you take?

bisley

cpj wrote: »

But anyway, I don't give a flying because deer ain't bullet proof and any center fire rifle I have will kill them just fine.

Right, why keep re-inventing the wheel...I mean, who really needs a custom-built rifle with a super-duper wildcat load?

tubabucknut

touche