Poll - What to use for the pig hunt...

BigDanSBigDanS Senior MemberPosts: 6,807 Senior Member
I have several choices. Chances are this will be an under 50 yard stand hunt.

Marlin 1895 45-70 1x4x32 with reduced power 405 gr bullets - proven - accurate to 75 yards - night capable
Savage 116 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 180 gr reloads - Proven - accurate to 200 yards SUB MOA
Marlin X7 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 165 gr loads - unproven - accurate to 200 yards - new SUB MOA
Marlin 336 30-30 - 2x7x40 Federal 150 gr factory ammo - proven - accurate to 150 yards
DAS made .300 BO - 3x9x40 Shooting 125gr Hornady SST's at 2100 FPS - unproven - accurate to 200 yards MOA
Savage 110 .243 4 x12x 42 - 100 Gr 2800 fps - proven - accurate to 200 yards SUB MOA

Which gun for the pig hunt? 22 votes

Marlin 1895 45-70 1x4x32 with reduced power 405 gr bullets
36% 8 votes
Savage 116 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 180 gr reloads
4% 1 vote
Marlin X7 30-06 - 3x9x40 full powered 165 gr loads -
4% 1 vote
Marlin 336 30-30 - 2x7x40 Federal 150 gr factory ammo
27% 6 votes
DAS made .300 BO - 3x9x40 Shooting 125gr Hornady SST's at 2100 FPS
22% 5 votes
Savage 110 .243 4 x12x 42 - 100 Gr 2800 fps
4% 1 vote
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  • timctimc Senior Member Posts: 6,684 Senior Member
    Any latex will work but the .300 BO will be fun!
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    If you are going for Porky around Lake Okeechobee you can see some nice larger ones with more boar traits than I see in ferals here in NC. If there is going to be underbrush I'd err on the side where I'd not have to track Porky. That would mean also the handling factor where you are and your likes. Me personally, I'd go with a heavier weight with enough to punch through the shoulder if needed, your proven .30-06. It may be to much for smaller pigs but you get a shot at a larger boar type it will be nice to have 180 grains behind it.

    Now for me, we have been using a big pen with a push gate to trap the ferals around us so we've even used .22LR to kill the caught pigs but when actually shooting at distance I use a boring .308Win with a good old school 180 gr Sierra GameKing.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,330 Senior Member
    You got to get that classic 30/30 blooded, but I prefer you do it with your own handloads.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,174 Senior Member
    Why would you use reduced loads in your .45-70? Won't notice a thing when you're shooting at game...
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Why would you use reduced loads in your .45-70? Won't notice a thing when you're shooting at game...
    Scope nose.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,909 Senior Member
    .30-30 Winchester!Why? because it is perfect for the job. You expect

    shots possibly around 50 yards. This is well within the .30-30s capabilities

    Yes, the black out will do it too, but the .30-30 will do it so well. It's just made for such duty.


    And, if you have a longer range shot it is good to at least 150 yards.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,734 Senior Member
    45-70
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  • wddodgewddodge Senior Member Posts: 1,009 Senior Member
    45/70 Just because it's an awesome round.

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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,003 Senior Member
    I said .300, but I would say you should be hunting more and posting range reports for all of the above, fill that freezer:up:.
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,496 Senior Member
    336 Marlin light weight, easy to carry all day, fast follow-up, 2x on the scope will help if they're close.. If you'll need a longer shot you'll have time to dial it up a7x is plenty for two hundred yards.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,694 Senior Member
    Use the 300 BO. Else, why even own one?
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,071 Senior Member
    You broke out that ever-so-vague "chances are". When in doubt: .30-06.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,725 Senior Member
    .300 BO, its what you built it for, right?
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,807 Senior Member
    It looks like I will need to bring them all.

    Seriously, they are all tools for different jobs.

    If we hunt at night, it will be the 45-70 will a light
    During the day under 100 yards, the .300 BO
    Over 100 yards, but not really likely the 30-06

    Of the group, only the .300 BO and Marlin X7 30-06 have not been blooded. The .300 BO is close to a 7.62x39. I took my first pig with an SKS, and kind of felt under gunned, especially bigger animals. The 30-06 is a DRT proven cartridge on pigs up to 150 lbs, while my last boar was 150 lbs and was taken with a .243 and it did one circle and fell over. The 30-30 would be excellent if we stalk, in a stand or blind.

    Hmmm....

    D
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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    The .300 BO is ballistic twin of a .30-30 just with bullets of a lower SD. Since the .300 BO has not been blooded take it. Leave the .30-30 home this time. You won't be under gunned with it. Take the .30-06 for a spare or if you get set in a spot with a longer shot.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,174 Senior Member
    Scope nose.

    So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....
    Not mine. So keep sayin...
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,807 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    So...your scope is hitting you in the nose...might be time to lose the scope....just sayin.....

    That has all been fixed. I can shoot almost anything through the 45-70. They are all reliable guns, but I think I am going with the .300 BO unless it is at night, in which case I will use the 45-70. It has the perfect scope for it.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • timctimc Senior Member Posts: 6,684 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Any latex?

    "Listed", Damn spell correct!
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,735 Senior Member
    Book a longer hunt and use all of them. Start with the biggest calibre and work your way down.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,122 Senior Member
    timc wrote: »
    Any latex will work but the .300 BO will be fun!

    Go nitrile. Some guys have latex sensitivity.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,694 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    Of the group, only the .300 BO and Marlin X7 30-06 have not been blooded. The .300 BO is close to a 7.62x39. I took my first pig with an SKS, and kind of felt under gunned, especially bigger animals. The 30-06 is a DRT proven cartridge on pigs up to 150 lbs, while my last boar was 150 lbs and was taken with a .243 and it did one circle and fell over. The 30-30 would be excellent if we stalk, in a stand or blind.

    Obviously, DRT is the optimum result, but it is elusive, even with a more powerful round. That has more to do with shot placement, the situation in which the shot is taken, and the individual characteristics of the animal. I consider it to be a bonus. If I can make a shot that doesn't destroy the shoulder(s) and still be able to find the animal within 50 yards, or so, I think I've done great.

    Hog anatomy makes that more difficult than shooting a whitetail, because of the 'armored' front, and the heart being located lower, and directly between the shoulders. On a true broadside shot, you have to shoot through the shoulder to hit the heart. A .30-30-ish round can do that at short range, although the heavier hitters can obviously do it better.

    Personally, I would be hoping for a slightly rear quartering shot that would allow a heart-lung shot without hitting the shoulders, and if I got a DRT, it would just be a bonus.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,940 Senior Member
    Which one has the highest FPE? :tooth:
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,807 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    Which one has the highest FPE? :tooth:

    The 30-06... but is it needed? The 45-70 has the higher sectional density.... :beer:
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,940 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    The 30-06... but is it needed? The 45-70 has the higher sectional density.... :beer:
    Yep by 0.005 (0.276 vs 0.271)
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,330 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    The 45-70 has the higher sectional density.... :beer:
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    http://www.chuckhawks.com/sd_beginners.htm
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    I hunt Florida hogs. Any of those listed will work fine. If it is a 200 lb class and you use the .243 just head/neck shoot him if you are doubting. Use whichever needs to be bloodied. If none need to be bloodied just pick your favorite. The .45/70 will definitely sit them down with less tracking involved as long as you don't gut shoot it.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,330 Senior Member
    Sectional density does carry some meaning, but it is mostly hypothetical. If it actually starts to matter, you are seriously undergunned. The basic concept is that long and skinny (higher SD) is going to penetrate better than short and fat (lower SD) at equal velocities. The flip side of that is that (without accounting for expansion) the bullet with the lower SD will deliver a larger portion of its energy while traveling through the target. But again, that is totally over thinking things.
  • 41magnut41magnut Senior Member Posts: 1,162 Senior Member
    I find the 30/30 adequate more often than not. Any of the listed caliber rifle combinations will be an outstanding selection. No flies on any of them.
    One rifle for every possible situation? 30/06, next subject.

    My rifle plans for various hunts this season have included, 30/30, 6MM Remington, 308, 30/06.

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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,725 Senior Member
    OK which one did you take?
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