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Tyshawn Lee: Child's alleyway 'execution' shocks US.

shushshush Senior MemberPosts: 6,259 Senior Member
"Tyshawn Lee was lured from a park into an alley and shot several times in a crime that police are calling "unfathomable". "

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6 November 2015

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34751128

"When police said that a nine-year-old boy was "executed" in Chicago because of his father's gang affiliations, it provoked widespread revulsion."

But no nation wide placard waving, street protests, house burning, looting or the "could have been my son" statements?

Or perhaps we did not get that "Ferguson Unrest" like news over here?

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  • avmechavmech Senior Member Posts: 856 Senior Member
    Nothing to see here, shuffle off...........

    Black on black crime in Chicago, surprised it was even on the news
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  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    avmech wrote: »
    Nothing to see here, shuffle off...........

    Black on black crime in Chicago, surprised it was even on the news

    Ok!




    What of;


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    Jeremy Mardis.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34754889

    5 hours ago.

    Two marshals in the US state of Louisiana are to be charged with murder after the fatal shooting of a six-year-old boy.

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    Officers Norris Greenhouse and Derrick Stafford


    Burning and looting is on for tonight then?
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    Both of these stories are tragic. I had not heard of the first until this thread.

    The second is breaking big this morning. I am no longer surprised.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    http://theadvocate.com/news/13907799-176/few-details-emerging-in-officer-involved

    Neither one of those boys deserved to die like they did. My :angel2::angel2: for their families.

    Supposedly Gang Bangers shot one and stupid cops (local Marshals) the other, either way their young lives were taken away.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    "Tyshawn Lee was lured from a park into an alley and shot several times in a crime that police are calling "unfathomable". "

    151105170939-tyshawn-lee-large-169.jpg

    6 November 201
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34751128

    "When police said that a nine-year-old boy was "executed" in Chicago because of his father's gang affiliations, it provoked widespread revulsion."

    But no nation wide placard waving, street protests, house burning, looting or the "could have been my son" statements?

    Or perhaps we did not get that "Ferguson Unrest" like news over here?

    The whole thing falls on the boy's hoodlum/thug father.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    The whole thing falls on the boy's hoodlum/thug father.

    I saw him on TV saying he wasn't involved with gangs???????????????????
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    Our government has no qualms about sending a missile at known terrorists in foreign countries, killing them and anybody who is with them, and criticizes those countries' inability to defend themselves adequately, without US help.

    This very same government disarms its own citizens, at every opportunity, when they are being preyed upon by neighborhood terrorists. Chicago has rigid gun control laws, already, so their normal response of making even more gun control laws against law-abiding citizens does nothing but send more sheep to the slaughter, and they have been doing this for decades. Those who apparently still trust that government to protect them are still being slaughtered in increasing numbers.

    It makes a great case for vigilante-ism. Any adult citizen in Chicago without a criminal record should be encouraged to have a gun and be offered the training to use it wisely. A government that refuses to trust its law-abiding citizens does so because it fears anything that empowers them to exist without a government leash around their neck.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    At least one Chicago citizen got the message- - - -he dropped an armed robber in his tracks a few days ago. If a lot more of these thugs start assuming room temperature, maybe things will turn around. Ballistic justice is quick, effective, and doesn't cost society to feed, clothe, and warehouse the scumbags. I sort of doubt that will happen anytime soon, though.
    Jerry
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    "Tyshawn Lee was lured from a park into an alley and shot several times in a crime that police are calling "unfathomable". "

    151105170939-tyshawn-lee-large-169.jpg

    6 November 2015

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34751128

    "When police said that a nine-year-old boy was "executed" in Chicago because of his father's gang affiliations, it provoked widespread revulsion."

    But no nation wide placard waving, street protests, house burning, looting or the "could have been my son" statements?

    Or perhaps we did not get that "Ferguson Unrest" like news over here?

    This doesn't surprise me one bit--nor shock me. If the population at large wasn't kept in the dark about true criminal behavior it wouldn't surprise anyone else either.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Ok!




    What of;


    _86563349_7b78591a-50dd-42b9-95c1-fea7fc4d6d99.jpg

    Jeremy Mardis.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34754889

    5 hours ago.

    Two marshals in the US state of Louisiana are to be charged with murder after the fatal shooting of a six-year-old boy.

    07pursuit_web2-articleLarge.jpg

    Officers Norris Greenhouse and Derrick Stafford


    Burning and looting is on for tonight then?

    That article tells me nothing. I want to see the camera footage.

    Marshals are federal government fools. I'm curious to know how this went down, too.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    That article tells me nothing. I want to see the camera footage.

    Marshals are federal government fools. I'm curious to know how this went down, too.
    I do not believe they are federal marshals.
    http://lamarshals.org
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,153 Senior Member
    The whole thing falls on the boy's hoodlum/thug father.

    No, it comes down on the shooter. Even if the father is a mass murdering Nazi date raping scumbag, there is no reason to shoot his kid. None
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,611 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    No, it comes down on the shooter. Even if the father is a mass murdering Nazi date raping scumbag, there is no reason to shoot his kid. None


    :that:

    The kid should not have to pay for the sins of the father, ever.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I wonder if those two "marshalls" will survive the jail environment long enough to go to trial? Surely they won't get to post bail!
    Jerry
  • avmechavmech Senior Member Posts: 856 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    :that:

    The kid should not have to pay for the sins of the father, ever.

    +1000%
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    I do not believe they are federal marshals.
    http://lamarshals.org

    Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    It looks like the girlfriend might have a lot more than a casual influence on what happened. Want to bet there's a little "thinking with the wrong head" involved, when all the details shake out?
    Jerry
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I'm not sure what families are supposed to do with any leftover money from Go Fund Me after the funeral costs are covered, but this hasn't set well with many..............


    Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/09/mother-murdered-chicago-boy-defends-buying-new-car/?intcmp=hpbt4
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    No, it comes down on the shooter. Even if the father is a mass murdering Nazi date raping scumbag, there is no reason to shoot his kid. None

    I didn't say the kid should have been killed for any reason, I was just pointing out why. The old man's gang ties.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I didn't say the kid should have been killed for any reason, I was just pointing out why. The old man's gang ties.

    Fox says he is indeed a Gang Banger, he denied that earlier in an interview.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    When will the good people of Chicago go all vigilante on the gangbangers? When they're done with stringing up, shooting and/or making eunuchs out of the gang members, maybe they can move on to the politicians! Emmanuel decorating a freeway overpass like Mussolini- - - -now there's a visual!
    Jerry
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member
    Things there and so many other cities and neighborhoods across the country will never improve until the people there take responsibility for the places they live, and hold their public officials accountable for their failures.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,611 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Things there and so many other cities and neighborhoods across the country will never improve until the people there take responsibility for the places they live, and hold their public officials accountable for their failures.


    I both agree and disagree. It seems logical that folks would have to hold their representatives accountable for their decisions/actions, but how can folks that are not responsible enough to avoid having children before graduating high school even think about holding anybody else responsible for anything? I agree that folks make mistakes, and that they shouldn't have to 'pay' for those mistakes forever, but many these days think that others have to pay for those mistakes. Responsibility is not a word that's known widely any more.

    This isn't a 'black' thing, it's a society thing...and I think it's getting worse, not better.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member
    In terms of holding public officials accountable for their failures, think Baltimore and Chicago. Both cities where the officials do nothing of any worth to protect their citizens, and demonize the LEOs that are tasked with keeping the peace. Of course, the people there have the government they elected, so there's not much room to complain there.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Things there and so many other cities and neighborhoods across the country will never improve until the people there take responsibility for the places they live, and hold their public officials accountable for their failures.


    Sometimes peoples concept of failure or success defies logic. Think of Marion Barry, the former mayor of our nations capital. He get video taped by the FBI smoking crack and still denies it, gets convicted, spends six months in a federal prison, and then gets elected to the district council, and eventually gets elected as mayor of our nations capital again. If he hadn't died, he'd probably still be mayor.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Things there and so many other cities and neighborhoods across the country will never improve until the people there take responsibility for the places they live, and hold their public officials accountable for their failures.

    ^This^

    The people have to clean up their neighborhoods themselves, or loudly support their police's efforts to do it...and assist investigations and testify in court against the low-lifes. Tough to do, but it's the only way to reverse the downward spiral.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Sometimes peoples concept of failure or success defies logic. Think of Marion Barry, the former mayor of our nations capital. He get video taped by the FBI smoking crack and still denies it, gets convicted, spends six months in a federal prison, and then gets elected to the district council, and eventually gets elected as mayor of our nations capital again. If he hadn't died, he'd probably still be mayor.

    That whole fiasco with Count Crackula is a perfect example of the kind of mindset that keeps me from talking to some of my relatives. We need a facepalm smiley.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
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