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JerryBobCo
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Trump's attack on Ben Carson and Carson's supporters.
JerryBobCo
Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
Who is it helping, and who is it hurting?
It makes me despise Trump and like Carson even more. I'm to the point where I can't stand "The Donald" because of his braggadocio and BS, and vicious attacks on anyone who threatens him. If anyone is "pathological", it's him. If the race is between Hillary and Trump, I would have to seriously consider not voting.
However, given the political climate this year, all of Trump's attacks might just work in his favor. He's made personal attacks against Fiorina, which she handled very well, and it didn't seem to hurt him. He's really gone after Jeb Bush, and that strategy seems to be working, too. And now, he's going after Carson and Rubio (see link posted below).
At what point will the GOP faithful say enough and turn their back on this guy?
http://news.yahoo.com/trump-questions-carsons-pathological-temper-faith-081653699--election.html#
It makes me despise Trump and like Carson even more. I'm to the point where I can't stand "The Donald" because of his braggadocio and BS, and vicious attacks on anyone who threatens him. If anyone is "pathological", it's him. If the race is between Hillary and Trump, I would have to seriously consider not voting.
However, given the political climate this year, all of Trump's attacks might just work in his favor. He's made personal attacks against Fiorina, which she handled very well, and it didn't seem to hurt him. He's really gone after Jeb Bush, and that strategy seems to be working, too. And now, he's going after Carson and Rubio (see link posted below).
At what point will the GOP faithful say enough and turn their back on this guy?
http://news.yahoo.com/trump-questions-carsons-pathological-temper-faith-081653699--election.html#
Jerry
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
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No way to argue as there is no such thing as a scholarship to West Point. If he has said that Gen Westmoreland had said "I can get you into West Point" it would be believable. I thought he was the honest candidate, now I don't believe any of them.
Carson isn't my favorite, but I won't brand him a liar over something like that, when there are plenty of politicians that get away with it when it's actually recorded on video.
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Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gotta admit trying to hit your mother with a hammer and stabbing someone isn't something folks claim everyday. Trump compared him to a child molester in the sense they can never be cured of their pathological issues. He shouldn't have said that in the way he did.
Will it hurt him...........who knows other things haven't.
West Point doesn't give scholarships, it is free to those accepted, which the young Carson probably didn't know and just took it to mean that when someone in uniform said they could help get him accepted.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Also, FWIW, I don't think that Trump even believes he can deport 11-12 million illegals, and their families. He's be doing good to find half of them.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Most of Trumps past is out there, the Trumpeters just ignore his past.
FYI Ike and Truman (?) deported about 6 mil. That was before puters. I am pretty sure it can be done with a lot less effort than some people want to make you think. But I would take half.
Another way is to arrest any business that knowingly hires illegals..................just gotta have the will to enforce the laws already on the books. And like they said those arrested for a criminal act and who have a record will go first.
Just have to overcome the OMG vision of families being ripped apart by Gestapo like police dragging people away in the middle of the night....... as the whiners put it ................
We need to close our border first off, put up a wall (and it can work) never completed tried here before, so how can they say it wouldn't work?
It is not the turn of the 20th Century and as nice as all that nation of immigrants, give us your huddled masses stuff sounds, things are much different today. Sure let them continue to come in documented and legally. Why should the ones who sneaked in be allowed to go to the head of the line before those who have been doing all the right and legal things to get in?
There is a limit of how many and of what culture they come from we can absorb into our society.
Americans, our citizens should come first!
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
The "Trumpeters" aren't the only ones who are ignoring Trump's past. The press is too.
As for the 6 mil figure, that's the first I've heard of it being that high. Even Trump puts the figure somewhere around 1.5 and 2 million. Regardless, the big difference is the political climate and advocacy groups. Trying to deport this many illegals would make for a huge cry of outrage, court battles and so on and so forth.
As for Trump himself, his main talent is in manipulating the press. He makes these outrageous claims, and the press follows blindly along, ignoring the important issues of the campaign.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Officially an appointment; but, to the uninformed civilian it is a scholarship. Shoot, those kadets even get paid, I did not get a dime except for $60 a month when I was on active duty for 2 period of 6 weeks.
My son's High School counted his appointment to the Naval Academy as a "scholarship"....when they announced the total dollar value of the scholarships of the graduating class, his was well over half of the total. Also - He was accepted by the Academy BEFORE he got his Congressional Appointment - the powers that be ensured the congressman made the appointment they desired...
He doesn't believe in or practice political correctness and I'm fine with that!
I don't know which GOP Faithful you're talking about, but the GOP Establishment is trying everything they can to hurt Carson and Trump and anybody that doesn't fit their mold as the perfect Republican.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
They would have preferred Christie or Bush, but they can see possibilities for Rubio, since he got sucked into the Gang of Eight with their BS amnesty ploy. But, when Rubio finally understood that the border security half of the plan would never happen, he tried to distance himself, with little success. It is the only thing holding him back, with knowledgable voters, except maybe his boyish appearance. The Republican leadership is courting him, but still unsure, whereas they know beyond any doubt that they don't want Trump, Carson, Cruz, or Paul because all have made it clear that they will battle the status quo. Trump and Carson are wild cards, but Cruz and Paul have both conducted their anti-establishment fights exactly as they promised voters that they would, and that means another 'Reagan Revolution' to them, which they would truly hate.
http://news.yahoo.com/trump-surges-among-likely-republican-primary-voters-reuters-213521679.html
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Yep it can be done if politicians have the balls to do it. But what Trump is getting wrong here is he is claiming he will strip people of their already established citizenship and deport them, which Ain't Happening. He's full of it on this count. Illegals that don't yet have citizenship? Yeah deport their ass. But Citizens, no matter how they got it, if they were granted it by law, will be another matter altogether.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Jerry
Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.
Jerry
Believe this Teach with all your heart, your words do NOT fall on deaf ears here, with me. I feel the same way about Trump. I would rather Jeb Bush than Trump. But, Trump is way yonder a better choice than the Pant Suite **** or Bernie the Commie. Like I've said, and will say again ( you listening CPJ?) if it comes down to it, whoever is on the Republican ticket will get my vote. As things are looking it won't be a RINO. Trump, Carsen, Rubio, and hell even Cruz (He's making headway now) are the Republican leaders now. The only issue it seems will be Trump. So we won't have to hold our nose too hard to vote Repub. That's good news. I actually believe Trump can do a good job. It's just the thought of having to listen to all that bragging everyday for up to 8 years. But I'd rather hear that than see Pantsuit select a SCOTUS Justice. Can you imagine?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Billy I usually will agree with most you say here, but I don't think you're seeing Carson real clear here. I see him as just soft spoken. But I don't think he will let anyone run over him. Did you see what he said about a Muslim President? And he comes back on Trump pretty good. He just doesn't raise his voice a lot. Remember what Teddy R. said, "Speak Softly But Carry a Big Stick" and that appears to be what he does. He doesn't launch into a tirade, he just says what it is. And sometimes that makes a better impression on people than going off on them like Trump does.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.