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"I'm not happy with the shoot-to-kill policy in general."

shushshush Senior MemberPosts: 6,259 Senior Member
It would appear that our Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn MP , very new Leader of the Opposition(TheLabour Party) is reinforcing, in a very big way, my first impression.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708

1 hour ago.

"Labour MPs have criticised their leader Jeremy Corbyn after he said he was "not happy" with a police policy of "shoot-to-kill" during a terror attack.
Mr Corbyn said any such policy could be "dangerous" and "counter-productive".

Shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn told the BBC he backed existing Labour policy on shoot-to-kill to save lives, adding: "I can't answer for Jeremy."
He said the UK policy was that any use of "lethal force" had to be reasonable, proportionate and designed to protect human life.

Mr Benn's comments came after the stormy meeting of Labour MPs on Monday evening - BBC political correspondent Eleanor Garnier said one Labour MP "savaged" Mr Corbyn during the meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party, while others said he was "aggressively heckled".

Labour MP John Mann asked Mr Corbyn if he was saying "terrorists with Kalashnikovs should not be shot by security forces in such situations".

The row comes after Mr Corbyn told the BBC on Monday that a "war on the streets" must be avoided and also that UK air strikes in Syria could make the situation there "far worse".

"I'm not happy with the shoot-to-kill policy in general. I think that is quite dangerous and I think can often be counter-productive. I think you have to have security that prevents people firing off weapons where you can."

The Labour leader was speaking after 129 people were killed in a series of terror attacks in Paris on Friday"

And you think you have problems?

I may retreat to my cellar(one of which I do not possess)

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  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    You can have peace anytime you want. All you have to do is surrender.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,689 Senior Member
    Politicians have become actors. As in any play, someone must be a character to which a part of the public can identify, and this guy's playing the part he feels more comfortable with, knowing that his speech will be controversial enough to gather some media attention and satisfying the expectations of his followers.

    Also remember that such kind of statements are usually sustained by someone that might never have tried to stop someone from even slapping him, much less even grabbing a real firearm and witness first-hand its potential and terminal effects over tissue and material, so that might also explain the grossly naive (To say the least) opinions he's expressing.
  • TxwheelsTxwheels Member Posts: 151 Member
    When it comes to the enemy, you either learn to shoot to kill or suffer the consequences later. And you can rest assured the enemy is trying to kill you not just wound you!
    If I don't answer the phone, I'm probably in the Senate taking a POTUS and wiping my Congress
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,823 Senior Member
    I'll bet this person would wet his pants if he even heard a gunshot!!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,650 Senior Member
    At least he was called on it. Sounds like our idiot.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    At least he was called on it. Sounds like our idiot.

    He is being "called" on a great many of the statements he makes.

    By his own Shadow Cabinet and sitting Labour Party MPs in general.

    I fear his Brutus moment is not too far in the future.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    I'm sure he is just confused about the differences between law enforcement and waging war against a pitiless enemy. We have the same problem, at the moment, with half of our esteemed ruling class.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    It would appear that our Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn MP , very new Leader of the Opposition(TheLabour Party) is reinforcing, in a very big way, my first impression.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708

    1 hour ago.

    "Labour MPs have criticised their leader Jeremy Corbyn after he said he was "not happy" with a police policy of "shoot-to-kill" during a terror attack.
    Mr Corbyn said any such policy could be "dangerous" and "counter-productive".

    Shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn told the BBC he backed existing Labour policy on shoot-to-kill to save lives, adding: "I can't answer for Jeremy."
    He said the UK policy was that any use of "lethal force" had to be reasonable, proportionate and designed to protect human life.

    Mr Benn's comments came after the stormy meeting of Labour MPs on Monday evening - BBC political correspondent Eleanor Garnier said one Labour MP "savaged" Mr Corbyn during the meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party, while others said he was "aggressively heckled".

    Labour MP John Mann asked Mr Corbyn if he was saying "terrorists with Kalashnikovs should not be shot by security forces in such situations".

    The row comes after Mr Corbyn told the BBC on Monday that a "war on the streets" must be avoided and also that UK air strikes in Syria could make the situation there "far worse".

    "I'm not happy with the shoot-to-kill policy in general. I think that is quite dangerous and I think can often be counter-productive. I think you have to have security that prevents people firing off weapons where you can."

    The Labour leader was speaking after 129 people were killed in a series of terror attacks in Paris on Friday"

    And you think you have problems?

    I may retreat to my cellar(one of which I do not possess)

    People like Mr. Corbyn will create a war in the streets. His is of the opinion of many who don't have to live where the trouble brews, those who live in their castles well guarded and out of danger who submit the masses to a life of danger by preventing them the luxury of self defense. He's the same thing as our Libtards. He's a UK Obama. He talks to the masses who have no clue but have the votes to keep idiots like him in office.

    Shush, remember that you guys are Not alone in this. And we need to stick together.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    I'd never shot to kill ... I shot to stop the threat. If the threat happens to stop breathing, oh well.

    Now there is merit in some cases for taking one or two alive and that would be to get information. But that would be at a point where the GFer is no longer danger to the LEO or public.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    .......... esteemed ruling class.

    Oh! you cannot call him that. :yikes:

    He is the leader of THE Working Man's party.

    Although I cannot for the life of me see what piece of mans work he worked at,

    apart from that of a full-time National Union official and a local Councillor.

    A cub reporter for the local rag maybe?

    snake284 wrote: »
    He's a UK Obama.................... He makes Obama look like a member of the John Birch Society..........


    He talks to the masses who have no clue but have the votes to keep idiots like him in office.

    He holds no governmental office, as such.

    He is the Leader of the Opposition.

    Outside of being the Labour leader, he is just a Member of Parliament.

    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    I'd never shot to kill ... I shot to stop the threat.

    The lads who do the dirty are of the same mind. :up:

    The politicians got "Shoot-to-kill" off the telly I think.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    If a rabid dog is trying to bite you, then shooting it in the foot is a bad idea. Kill it and move on.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,086 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    If a rabid dog is trying to bite you, then shooting it in the foot is a bad idea. Kill it and move on.
    :that:

    :win:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Drop the scumbag behind the lines in Syria and give him a choice between carrying a full-auto rifle or a "cease and desist" order- - - -see how strong his convictions really are! I wonder which a dummycrap congress-critter would choose to carry on a 10-block stroll at midnight in East St. Louis- - - -a 1911 with half a dozen spare magazines, or a cell phone with 911 on speed-dial?
    Jerry
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Drop the scumbag behind the lines in Syria and give him a choice between carrying a full-auto rifle or a "cease and desist" order- - - -see how strong his convictions really are! I wonder which a dummycrap congress-critter would choose to carry on a 10-block stroll at midnight in East St. Louis- - - -a 1911 with half a dozen spare magazines, or a cell phone with 911 on speed-dial?
    Jerry

    Good one Teach!!!!!!! Now we all know that the answer to your question is,,wait..........wait.......A cell phone with 911 speed dail!! Any Obama dummy rat would.. Me personally would choose the 1911. PS I have been to St. Louis several times but not East St. Louis. Just some places I stay out of..
    "It is what it is":usa:
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