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Cull Buck with the Rossi Modle 92 in .45 Colt

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 26,471 Senior Member
Rancher friend called yesterday and wanted another cull deer taken from his place. I grudgingly agreed.............and quickly grabbed my gear!

This time it would be a pair of .45 Colts that would go along. One, my 24" Octagon Barreled Rossi Model 92 with tang sight and globe front. The other would be my 6.5" Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley (Casull). Both would be running the same .45 Colt load with a 250gr Hornady XTP over 26.5gr H110 in the case.

Arrived at his place around 3:00 Friday afternoon. We chatted and visited. Discussed guns and what not. Told him I wanted to try and go old school this time. Open sights on both. He said if I could hit it, he trusted that I could kill it. This time, he had bucks in mind. Seems there were two narrow and tall buck he wanted gone. Along with a freak horned 6 point with a dwarfed side. Bucks? I can do bucks. Let's go!

Set up in the same stand as the last couple times. Nothing was moving at first. Then, several does w/ yearlings and axis deer began moving down and through the shooting lanes and clearings. But, nothing close and nothing he wanted shot anyway. So, we waited......and waited. Finally, at just before 5:00, this little guy showed up.

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A big 8-Point that was beautifully healthy with a huge body and heavy rack.

Then, the feeder went off and the bucks poured in.

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I lost count as they just kept coming and going. But, the Dwarfed Rack buck showed up in the process. He is the one just to the right of the right feeder leg in the picture above.

The feeder was 98 yards away. I could have pushed it with the Rossi, but chose not to. We waited. From the feeder, the Dwarf Rack milled around and finally moved to 70 yards (Black Star below). I readied the Rossi to shoot. Aimed in.........and a coyote or something got every bucks attention. They all spooked and trotted of, except for a small 8 point. Crap!

As the sun set, they slowly milled back in. A handful of 8s and several young spikes. Some 4 points and a doe as well. A herd of axis passed by. But, no cull buck. As the light faded, he finally returned (on the left).

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But, he wouldn't come any closer than 80 yards and wouldn't stand still. So, he wandered off through the brush. Appearing to try and flank the feeder and the mass of testosterone present. It was getting too dark to film and too dark for the Ruger. At the last moment, he committed and, circling around, came within range at 65 yards with just enough light to see my front sight.

(path he took)
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At the red star, while quartering to me, he looked up at the blind and stopped. Placing the crosshairs of the globe sight on the point of his shoulder................BOOM!

On impact, he instantly crumpled to the ground and rolled on his side. I saw his head turn up once and hold. Then, sink to the ground as he expired.

(where he was at the shot)
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And, where he fell.

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The stand I was in is over my right shoulder (left side of pic).

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A wonderful hunt with a good friend. This is the first deer I've taken with a levergun in 21 years. The last being my Winchester Model 94 in .30-30 Winchester. This is also my first deer ever with a .45 Colt. I was impressed.

We loaded him up and headed for home. I am blessed by gracious and wonderful people who bestow upon me great opportunities and friendship.

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Autopsy to follow.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith

Replies

  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Good shooting Tiny Tex.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Rossi Model 92 w/ 24" barrel
    .45 Colt
    250gr Hornady XTP

    Muzzle Velocity: 1,815 fps
    Distance: 65 yards
    Angle: Quartering Towards
    Impact: Point of Shoulder / Scapula / Spine
    Impact Velocity: 1.528 fps (est.)
    Distance Traveled: 0 yards

    Entrance:
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    Entrance Under Hide:
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    Exit Through Shoulder: (Penetrated front of scapula)
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    Entrance Under Shoulder:
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    Broke 2 Ribs:
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    Entrance to Spine:
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    Right Lung:
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    Left Lung:
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    Severed Spine all the Way Through:
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    Exit Spine:
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    Exit Under Hide: Bullet Lodged backwards Under Hide
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    Lodged Under Hide:
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    Recovered Bullet Weight:
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    Bullet Shed Jacked and has Embedded Bone in the Lead:
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    I was unable to find any bullet jacket. I either missed it (looked pretty hard) or it broke into small enough pieces that I was unable to distinguish from bone fragments.

    The bullet pretty much plowed through bone the entire way. From hitting the point of the shoulder and penetrating the scapula to then enter the spine dead center, sever it, and continue on, it had a tough road to hoe. Bone fragments were littered throughout the chest cavity and embedded in both meat and bullet lead. Curious how the bullet got turned around after exiting the spine.

    I've now used this bullet at .45 Colt rifle velocities and .460 S&W velocities. Impact velocities from 1,500 to over 2,100 fps and in every case, it performed perfectly. Twice the jacket separated, but the core plodded on and did it's job. I've now recovered 3 bullets and the deer have covered a combined distance after being shot to a grande total of:

    0 yards

    Not a one has taken a step. I'd say that's pretty good performance no matter the velocity. Consequently, this is the first spine shot with the bullet. So, that is not the deciding factor on all distances traveled.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    I have found that bullet to be very accurate from my RNMBH at 700fps or 1300fps. Good to see it holds up going faster than I'll ever push it.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,778 Senior Member
    Nice shot and good cull. Our lease is overrun with bucks like that.

    Congrats!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,022 Senior Member
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,702 Senior Member
    Good shooting. It is the year for old school

    Keep regressing, you are getting closer to a flintlock.... its calling to you.. you know you want to.. you just did it and you want to do it again..
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Thanks. It's been fun using handgun cartridges this season. Still have a few more handguns to use for the first time. Hope to be successful with them this year.

    I used to blackpowder hunt in my teens with a TC Renegade in .50cal. Never got into flintlocks.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Nice shot and good cull. Our lease is overrun with bucks like that.

    Congrats!


    Better get'em!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,602 Senior Member
    Well done :up:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    :zzzz:

    I've killed deer with a .223 Remington. The 80gr A-Max are at the back of the line. I'll get to'em.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,883 Senior Member
    Well done Darwin! Can't argue with that at all!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    ...I've now used this bullet at .45 Colt rifle velocities and .460 S&W velocities. Impact velocities from 1,500 to over 2,100 fps and in every case, it performed perfectly. Twice the jacket separated, but the core plodded on and did it's job. I've now recovered 3 bullets and the deer have covered a combined distance after being shot to a grande total of:

    0 yards

    Not a one has taken a step. I'd say that's pretty good performance no matter the velocity. Consequently, this is the first spine shot with the bullet. So, that is not the deciding factor on all distances traveled.

    That is very impressive. I have never taken seriously the .45 Colt, nor the Rossi brand, so this is eye-opening for me. However, my last 50 yard shooting exercise with iron sights yielded poor results, so I probably won't do anything about it.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    That is very impressive. I have never taken seriously the .45 Colt, nor the Rossi brand, so this is eye-opening for me. However, my last 50 yard shooting exercise with iron sights yielded poor results, so I probably won't do anything about it.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_385/products_id/75935/Rossi+45C+10+RND+BBlue+Blue+SR

    Comes scope compatible.

    Just say'n.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,906 Senior Member
    Off topic, but where did you get the tang sight and globe front sight for your Rossi? I have the same gun in SS and want to do a similar set up.
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Never got into flintlocks.

    You ain't dead yet- - - -no time like the present!
    Jerry
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Off topic, but where did you get the tang sight and globe front sight for your Rossi? I have the same gun in SS and want to do a similar set up.

    I got the Tang sight from Brownell's and the Globe from Midway.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    You ain't dead yet- - - -no time like the present!
    Jerry


    I've shot one before and it WAS pretty cool.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,778 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    That is very impressive. I have never taken seriously the .45 Colt, nor the Rossi brand, so this is eye-opening for me. However, my last 50 yard shooting exercise with iron sights yielded poor results, so I probably won't do anything about it.

    My last deer of the season last year was with a suppressed .45 colt. 200 grain gold dot dropped it in its tracks.

    Granted, it was a brain shot. I hate tracking deer
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,778 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    You ain't dead yet- - - -no time like the present!
    Jerry

    My 7 year old is obsessed with shooting a flintlock. I guess I need to get one now
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
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    LIES! Based on the size of that hole next to that carny thumb, we know this deer to have been shot with a .177 cal Crossman pellet!

    Seriously, man - jealousy abounds. I want a .45 Colt lever gun in the worst way and your hunt got those thoughts churning. Very nice job downing that cull buck.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,732 Senior Member
    I'm really glad you took that deer with the Rossi....makes me want to do similar with my Uberti 73 Winchester...Doe Fest is coming up!
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I'm really glad you took that deer with the Rossi....makes me want to do similar with my Uberti 73 Winchester...Doe Fest is coming up!

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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,471 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    .45%20Colt%20Levergun%2012-4-15%2038_zpsgzwvmap0.jpg

    LIES! Based on the size of that hole next to that carny thumb, we know this deer to have been shot with a .177 cal Crossman pellet!
    .

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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    Going Old School Cowboy style, I like it. :beer:
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