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Uncle FesterUncle Fester Posts: 1,644 Senior Member

I really don't understand how/why this happened. Hopefully, someone wil buy the company and restart production (and employing people) soon.


  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    All that for paperwork violations with no victims.

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    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • earlyearly Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Government retaliation?
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • JKPJKP Posts: 2,772 Senior Member
    I have one that ejects spent brass on the CORRECT side!
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,360 Senior Member
    The ownership of the company is being transferred to another party...unlikely that STAG is going anywhere...
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    The ownership of the company is being transferred to another party...unlikely that STAG is going anywhere...

    Same thing that they did with Red Jacket when Hayden got busted on some paperwork errors.... before he got busted for real crimes
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member
    After reading the article, I think he doesnt need to do any more to get arrested of other charges. Unregistered full auto receivers.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • 41magnut41magnut Posts: 1,306 Senior Member
    Sounds like Stag Arms got caught in a "white glove" inspection.
    Airlines and I suspect many others as well, have to deal with these inspections at regular intervals.

    Agents from the controlling or regulating agency (FAA, BATFE, NRC, ???) show up, some times unannounced sometimes planned. They start going through the paperwork, facilities, and whatever else and look for the least an miniscule error. Small errors are always found, sometimes big ones. If enough paperwork is required enough times errors will be made sooner or later. Fines usually assessed, corrections made, policies and procedures changed.

    After correcting deficiencies and sanctions complied with, life continues. Next inspection, problems are found to have continued, or new simular ones are found then heads will roll.

    From the newspaper account it appears to be what happened.

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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Reading the article, sounds like shame on him. I wouldn't mind being the new owner.

    They were given a slap on the wrist in 2007 for the same thing. Came back in 2014 and same issues.
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  • tennmiketennmike Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never quite got what that is. Don't think I've verse looked into this. Does that mean they are machined different to accept the full auto parts?

    Yes. It's a machining thing. The raised shelf behind the hammer pin holes has to be machined away to accept full auto parts. If my mind isn't playing tricks on me, a few years after the 87 law banning new full auto sales, the AR 15 was still being built on the same receiver as the M16 but with semi auto parts. After Billy Joe Ray Bob Clinton's assault weapons ban went into effect the AR 15 receivers had that metal behind the trigger group left in place to comply with the new laws so that full auto parts were not a 'drop-in' parts change out anymore, the metal had to be removed for the full auto parts to fit. But the weird thing about it was that full auto M16 parts sets were readily available for legal sale at gun shows until the parts sets were sold out.
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  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    It's not just a paperwork issue. It's all those missing guns too. From the link:

    "The government said about 200 firearms could not be accounted for at Stag's John Downey Drive facilities. "We don't know where they are, whether they were stolen, whether they're on the streets, or whether they're just in the wrong hands," Daly said."

    How does that happen? Fast food restaurants count and account for, every bun, every burger, every slice of cheese, every day. A well run gin mill keeps tight tabs on its pour cost and soon catches an overly generous bartender. I'm sure Ford doesn't misplace 200 new Mustangs. Etc., etc., etc.

    People who make things, especially in tightly regulated industries, especially when they've been cited twice before, don't screw up like this. Carelessness is apparently part of Stag's corporate culture - I can see quite a few other heads rolling as well when the new owners move in. Speaking of the new owners...Cerberus?...maybe?
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