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Non-resident CHP in Virginia . . . ??

ralphttralphtt New MemberPosts: 4 New Member
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I'm in Northeast Tennessee and travel often into Southwest Virginia. The recent change in reciprocity mandated by the VA attorney general prompted me to complete my VA non-resident CHP application. According to USPS priority mail tracking the packet got to the Virginia State Police in Richmond on December 28.

Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with
the time required for approval or denial of non-resident CHP permits in Virginia.

Would like to have an informed estimate as to about how long I might wait for an answer?
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,031 Senior Member
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
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    Since VA is not honoring NC CHPs after 2/1 ... IF I were to go with a non-resident permit it WOULD NOT be VA it would be Utah (a local range has an instructor who can legally teach a Utah class there) and not give VA one cent of my money. Just my feelings ...
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  • ralphttralphtt New Member Posts: 4 New Member
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    Considered Utah but was unable to locate anyone to teach the required class. Already had the credentials for VA.

    And . . . I echo your sentiments about minimal spending in VA . . . :agree:

    Thanks, NN!

    :iwo:
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    Utah concealed carry can be done online, yes ?
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  • ralphttralphtt New Member Posts: 4 New Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Utah concealed carry can be done online, yes ?

    Don't believe so . . .
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    Utah website;

    http://bci.utah.gov/forms/concealed-firearm-permit-applications/
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  • ralphttralphtt New Member Posts: 4 New Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Utah website;

    http://bci.utah.gov/forms/concealed-firearm-permit-applications/

    Visited that link some time ago. Nowhere do I find any suggestion that the Utah non-resident hcp can be obtained with an online application.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,271 Senior Member
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    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    Since VA is not honoring NC CHPs after 2/1 ... IF I were to go with a non-resident permit it WOULD NOT be VA it would be Utah (a local range has an instructor who can legally teach a Utah class there) and not give VA one cent of my money. Just my feelings ...
    Is there a way to get the Virginia permit online? I'll be going to do some motorcycling in Northeast Tennessee in May after the SE Shoot and while I'm there, there is a chance I might go over the state line into Virginia. I don't want to leave my gun at the hotel or get locked up in Virginia with an unauthorized carry violation.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    No, but you can apply by mail, almost as good as online.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    You know if you get Reserve Deputy status in some tiny County by doing a bit of unpaid work every now and then, the whole CCW thing becomes a moot issue.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,271 Senior Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    No, but you can apply by mail, almost as good as online.
    Thanks. Is there a URL I can check to find the details?
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,271 Senior Member
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    DoctorWho wrote:
    You know if you get Reserve Deputy status in some tiny County by doing a bit of unpaid work every now and then, the whole CCW thing becomes a moot issue.
    That's out of the question. At my age I don't want to be tied up with any LE stuff anymore.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    Well it was just a thought.

    http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

    Lots of folks selling online classes, unnecessary, just get the package and complete it.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,271 Senior Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Well it was just a thought.

    http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

    Lots of folks selling online classes, unnecessary, just get the package and complete it.

    Thanks for the suggestion and the web address....would be perfect if I had an interest. I just want to get the permit, in case I'm in Virginia at some point.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,332 Senior Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    You know if you get Reserve Deputy status in some tiny County by doing a bit of unpaid work every now and then, the whole CCW thing becomes a moot issue.

    Be careful about throwing that bit of advice around....it doesn't work every where....There are states that do not recognize Reserve IDs and not all Reserves are allowed to carry or possess powers of arrest...
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    That is indeed true, anyone, just as with CCW has to find out the legalities of when & where it is legal or not legal to CCW, however the recent law change allows duly sworn in appointed "properly credentialed" LEOs to carry in all States,, not talking about non LEO specialists, just someone appointed as a deputy sheriff in some small locale.

    To clarify; if you are a U.S. ( LEO) ie. a Deputy Sheriff and carry as a normal part of your apointed duties, you can now legally carry anywhere in the U.S. as long as you have your badge / ID on your person.

    Anyhow, since it is not ILLEGAL to be a Deputy Sheriff,
    What need I be careful about ?

    They have a reserve Deputy Sheriff force here in Oregon, pretty good folks.
    Mostly transport prisoners and other support services.

    Reff to:
    H.R. 218, the “Law Enforcement Officers’ Safety Act”
    and
    S. 1132, the “Law Enforcement Officers’ Safety Act
    Improvements Act”
    and
    H.R. 4310, the “National Defense Authorization Act”

    SNIP"
    In 18 USC § 926B(c),[10] "qualified law enforcement officer" is defined as an employee of a governmental agency who:

    is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest, or apprehension under section 807(b) of title 10, United States Code (article 7(b) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice);
    is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;
    is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency which could result in suspension or loss of police powers;
    meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm;
    is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and
    is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm.
    Additionally, 18 USC § 926B requires that the individual must carry photographic identification issued by the governmental agency for which the individual is employed that identifies the employee as a police officer or law enforcement officer or correctional officer of the agency.

    On-duty status determines LEOSA-eligibility. Thus, as long as the person meets the definition of "qualified law enforcement officer" in an on-duty capacity, whether an officer is a full-time, part-time, auxiliary, or reserve peace officer is not relevant in determining whether a person is a "qualified law enforcement officer" under LEOSA. LEOSA's definition of "qualified law enforcement officer" does not include a requirement that a person have law enforcement authority off-duty.[19][20][21]"


    SNIP.....
    Be careful about throwing that bit of advice around....it doesn't work every where....There are states that do not recognize Reserve IDs and not all Reserves are allowed to carry or possess powers of arrest...

    hmmmm, the "FEDERAL" law seems a bit more clear to me.
    Last I checked a Federal law in these matters trumps State law.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,332 Senior Member
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    DoctorWho wrote: »
    What need I be careful about ?

    I already explained that...there are (as you pointed out in your second post) qualifiers...Reserve Office credentials are not recognized in all states nor does LEOSA apply in all cases..
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    They don't have to be recognized at the State level, they as well as properly retired LEOs are recognized at the Federal level, just as Federal agents are.

    "On-duty status determines LEOSA-eligibility. Thus, as long as the person meets the definition of "qualified law enforcement officer" in an on-duty capacity, whether an officer is a full-time, part-time, auxiliary, or reserve peace officer is not relevant in determining whether a person is a "qualified law enforcement officer" under LEOSA. LEOSA's definition of "qualified law enforcement officer" does not include a requirement that a person have law enforcement authority off-duty.[19][20][21]"

    I for one am happy this legislation passed, it put an end to lots of frivolous jurisdictional foolishness of a
    LEOs authority and ability to carry ending at a State or sometimes County line, even threatened with arrest, it was like that between NYS & NJ except PONY and some Railroad cops with TriState authority.

    This legislation even protects railroad cops even though they are not Govenment employees..
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