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calebib
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Guns that don't get any respect.
calebib
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There are plenty of guns out there that don't get the respect they deserve, at the same time there are plenty that are not nearly as good as the hype surrounding them. I just got an example of the former in for a clean & oil and safety check, it's a very nice example of a H&R Defender .38 S&W. This one is still as tight as the day it left the factory and looks to have only a few rounds through it. Yes, they were "cheap" guns from the start but the fit and finish is better than half the stuff on the market today and it's just a neat little gun. I might have to snag one the next time I run across a deal, a new set of grips would really go a long way in the ergonomics department.
What are your favorite underdog gun?
What are your favorite underdog gun?
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Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
That is very nice.
An awful lot of people have been stopped by a .380-200.
The famed Ithaca Auto / Burglar shotgun.
I wish they could bring it back..... love the pistol grips angle.
Almost as many by a harsh word !
lol :jester: :rotflmao: :jester: :rotflmao:
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That a cool shotgun!
Oh, and my Taurus Model 85. Yes, I own one, bought when they still made decent revolvers.
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Model 85s I had, as soft as Government cheese.... lol :jester:
The old Marlin Camp Carbine is another HD wonder. It has a cult following now but back when made it was Rodney Dangerfield.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
The wife and I both have 151Mb She inherited hers and after playing with it, I bought one for myself.
I have an old Mossberg auto loader. Can't recall the model. Nice walnut stock, accurate, reliable, good for shorts or longs.
The topic is guns that deserve respect but don't get it, not guns that deserve even less respect than they get. Just sayin
George Carlin
A few of things...
The OP and subject line says "Guns." The .270 Winchester is a CARTRIDGE.
Second, it's not the gun, nor that cartridge that doesn't get the respect, but the user/enthusiasts/advocates. Possibly because they failed LGS001: Basic Firearms Terminology and can't tell the difference between a firearm and the cartridge it fires. Same mistake a liberal journalist makes.
Now, one could legitimately argue that a 1964 or later vintage Winchester Model 70 in .270 doesn't get the same respect as a pre-'64 rifle in the same chambering (that means it fires the .270 Winchester cartridge), but the same thing could be said of the same rifles in .30-06.
My old 311 is more fun than two women in a bath tub. The old single shot pistols are rare collector items now.
The Remington Nylon 66: A cast-iron MUTHA to tear down and reassemble, but the thing is. . .you pretty much never, ever have to. The stamped/molded/pinned approach to construction offends pretty much every firearm-related sense I have, but they are fun shooters. Smoother running than a 10/22, at least it seems to me.
Small calibers in otherwise good guns: My bullet casting experience over the last few years have given me a new appreciation for stuff down in the power range of .32 ACP, .380ACP, etc... No, they'll never be .454 Casulls, but once you get away from the notion that you NEED hollowpoints and start playing with flat nosed solids, your attitude begins to shift somewhat.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
FIL and I were on a rampage gathering up M1s in the late 90s...he wanted the Postal Meters, Rock-olas, etc...the hard to get ones, and make them original (it was a paaion, along with Garands). Me, I bought the Universals.
He passed away, and it was left to me to dispose of his (MIL needed money). When all was said and done, a final trip to MIL's house turned up a boat load of ammo and magazines, many still wrapped in either paper or red plastic and covered in grease...probably cosmoline. Most had very distinct stamps on them. Those were, according to MIL, my commission... Sorry, no pics presently...not in photobucket.
Also, the Mossberg .22 LR, .22 and .ss short rifles...well...
As to the P-85...all these years, it's still my go to baby...
Matt
Yes, the Nambu T14 was under-powered for a combat handgun, broke firing pins on a regular basis, featured a rather strong magazine retention spring whose existence baffles the mind, and shoots unaffordium ammo when you can find it at all! BUT its a nicely balanced, soft shooting, surprisingly accurate, and fun gun that is still affordable as far as collectibles go. As it was the original inspiration for Bill Ruger to start his company, it can't be all bad - the dreadful by all accounts T94 not withstanding!
Nambu with Ruger MK III and NAA revolver. Grenade is an inert dummy.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
Jerm, your kidding right? The Nambu got no respect because it deserved no respect. Even when handled correctly it its prone to accidental discharge.
The Japanese were and are so afraid of fostering or creating a "Gun culture" so, they figured and still figure if a firearm was / is crippling-ly ugly, fugly even, who could love guns as atrocious as the Nambu pistols ? or any really fugly Japanese guns ?
And with a heavy enough trigger to cripple the average able bodied girly boy, fewer people could or would ever learn to love guns, or at least simply hate guns, so they hoped, with some measure of success.
Seeing as how few people in Japan today love firearms, outside of kids airsoft clubs or other non firing firearms or some such rubbish collectors of diverse Military memorabilia or Military gamer clubs.
Sadly, there is no real "Gun culture" or love of firearms extant or worth speaking of in Japanese society today.
The post 1963 Winchester Model 70 is a good example of a good gun that gets no respect, simply because the pre '64 Models were so outstanding. The '64 plus push-feeds were/are very good rifles, just not as 'sweet' as their predecessors. They are easily as good as the Remington 700's they were intended to compete with, as far as actual shooting goes, and not bad looking for their price range.
I was just pondering this the other day. The Winchester 1892 I just bought is a recent-manufacture version made at the Moroku plant in Japan. The same goes for my Browning Citori White Lightning 20 GA over/under shotgun. Without question, these are two of the best fit and finished firearms that I own. There might have been shame many years ago from saying you owned a Japanese-made product given the poor quality way back when, but that certainly isn't the case with their modern firearms.